iutodd

The TLX continues to sell extremely well:


4890 sold in October.


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jeich182

Saw this. Hope it keeps up, Acura needs it.

JKftw

I think this is impressive considering that here in the SF area (and other key markets?) there has been a relative shortage of 2.4 models which arguably has the potential to be a higher-volume seller of the two engine options.

JT4

This is good news for Acura..

I think it only gets better and stronger as more and more SH-AWD's become available..

yooin14

Type-S Info

"With TLX sales nearly topping 5,000 units in a segment full of notoriously tough competitors, the new TLX is quickly establishing itself as a top player in the mid-size luxury sedan game," said Mike Accavitti, Acura division senior vice president and general manager. "This early success of TLX also demonstrates the strong potential of the performance direction for the Acura product lineup."

EddieOnAZ

Sweet! Not a direct type-S announcement but its good to know a " performance direction" is on their minds. Hopefully we'll get to see exhaust tips on the TLX!

Tony Pac

Amazing news!

TLX will be another success just like 3G. 5,000 units and + a month

panamera125

Definitely a success. After 4G TL, I was getting worried about Acura... Looks like they're back on track in terms of sales numbers (especially with the new RDX and previously strong MDX).

weather

Well, that is great news indeed! A year ago, the combined sales of the TL and TSX were about 2300 units while the same time in 2012, it was about 4000....so at ~5000 units, it is clearly an indication that the TLX is selling more than the TSX and TL combined.

Way to go Acura!! Congrats...I think you can say you have a hit on your hand!

Now where is my TYPE-S??!!

Colin

I wouldn't go with a year ago as the only guide. I'll be curious to see 1st year performance vs. 1st year performance for 4G TL + 2G TSX (I realize their introductions were staggered).

weather

^^ that is why I went back 2 years.....but maybe 2009 would have been a better indication as both the TL and TSX were new too.

ostrich

Great news! It would be really interesting to see how the figure breaks down by trim level (i4, V6 FWD and V6 SH-AWD).

Rocket_man

I think it is a strong number. It has to stand on its own in the current market. It is too hard to go back in time and compare TL and TSX sales numbers of years ago when the competition was different. But I will say that clearly this car competes in its market fairly well. They have been marketing the heck out of this car, and no telling ow long these numbers will hold, but they look good to me.

TSX69 used to post these comparison numbers here in AZ but I'll copy them over from ToV.... The TLX is doing pretty well, pushing up against Lexus and the Germans. I think the thing that sells this car is the overall package at a reasonable price.

3/4 series 13,621 +16.3%
C class 7,412 +13.2%
ES 5,932 -1.1%
TLX 4,890
LaCrosse 4,071 +5.7%
Q50 2,964 +16%; Q60 496 -24.5%
ATS 2,608 -6.3%
MKZ 2,508 -13.8%
A4 2,268 -25.4%
G37 1,258 -14.4%
TL 105 -91.9%

seaeyes

And
IS 3,771 +5.6%
S60 1,127 -11.7%

Nukem

I am sold on the SH-AWD Advance package.

neuronbob

I knew the TLX would be a hit. Hopefully Acura can keep up the momentum.

CARLOS10

Keep Acura happy, and they will delivery a Type-S.

ScottLong

I agree with the overwhelming love for the 3G. But people have to realize the 3G(as great as it was) competed in a much much weaker era of entry level luxury cars.

Back in the mid 2000's, Mercedes was just trying to recover from the Lexus beat downs they suffered over the last decade. Their Brand image was at an all time low and even Cadillac was outselling them some years(imagine that now). The ATS never existed and Audi have nowhere near the Brand power they have now. The only true rivals the TL had to deal with was the ES/IS/3/G series. That's five entry level luxury cars taking up the entire segment. Out of those five, the TL was actually way ahead of it's time and had a classic design clearly build to last and age well.(Unlike the last gen IS or the mid 2000's 3 Series)

Now..........Lexus have created an amazing ride in the 3IS. Mercedes have fully recover their top dog status. Audi have become Tier 1 Status in America. ATS have entered the scene etc etc................ For the TLX to take away almost 5k of that share? That's pretty good.

nebula

Is there way of telling how many of them were 4 vs 6 cylinders?

saturno_v

Perspective guys...perspective....as per GOOD CAR BAD CAR blog, October 2010 sales of the TSX and TL combined was 5293 (2251 TLX + 3042 TL...so much for the "slow sales" of the supposedly "ugly" pre-redesign TL)....and we were just at the beginning of the recovery, definitely a different economic environment than the current one....and with two cars that were almost 2 years old (the TLX was more than 2 years old already)

aboysua6

Do you work at AH in Torrance?

iutodd

No.

Mr Hyde

Here are sales numbers for you. 3G numbers were trending down as is to expected as a car nears its end of production, but whereas you typically see a big spike with a new model, the numbers pretty much fell even further. If you don't consider these numbers poor, I am not sure what would qualify. The last year of the outgoing 3G had better numbers than any year for the 4G.


2000 67,033
2001 69,484
2002 60,764
2003 56,770
2004 77,895
2005 78,218
2006 71,348
2007 58,545
2008 46,766
2009 33,620
2010 34,049
2011 31,237
2012 33,572
2013 24,318

The TL used to be the number 2 selling lux sedan behind the 3 series. The lost sales in the last few years went elsewhere, and could be lost completely, so anything that reverses those numbers is definitely a positive.

The TLX doesn't need to exceed the sales of 2 separate models in order to be considered a success, The costs of 2 separate models for everything from parts, storage, through marketing is much different than it is for 1 model which is optioned differently.

Here in NY, the AWD versions are just trickling in, and the 4 cylinder models are selling faster than my dealer can keep up with the demand.

If the numbers continue to climb, then that's how the door opens to future higher performance models.

saturno_v

I'm not debating if Acura will make money on the TLX...it will....it did not make sense to build 3 different cars on what it was really a single platform (the Accord chassis, long wheelbase (TL and RL) and short "Euro" wheelbase (TSX)

A random look at the 2010 sales numbers reveals that the TL actually outsold the TSX in several months (from April on when reliable data is available on the site)...interesting huh??

I already addressed why, in my opinion (far from the absolute truth obviously) the TL sold "poorly".....and the styling is a marginal reason.


- Shitty Economy which ruined the car launch.

- Wrong size segment

- Overlapping with the TSX V6


Finally, the field of competitors for the 3G was weaker..easier to shine....

a77

The Canadian numbers for October are even more remarkable. Its total of 788 (in a market a tenth of the US) is a massive increase. Better by some margin than any of the last 48 months even when combining TL and TSX sales. Maybe best month ever - I havent seen any statements from Honda Canada yet. SHAWD availability is only now getting good - so this could be maintained or even increased. For how long, who knows but no-one would have wished for a better start.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

+1.

Mr Hyde

You can remain in denial and marginalize the polarizing style, but you are in the minority.

Your opinions are interesting, but they don't explain why the 4G sales never even slowed their downward spiral while the competition only experienced transient dips if that.

seaeyes

RL is not based on Accord chassis.

saturno_v

Yes it is.....same chassis as the TL...the "American" (long wheelbase) Accord chassis.

saturno_v

I think it played some part but is not the whole story.

The competition has only got stronger...

winstrolvtec

Wouldn't exactly say the competition only experienced minor dips, most experienced dips in proportion to how well they sold to begin with. The more they sold the higher the percentage drop, the less the smaller, not to the same percentage but to a scale of percentage.

The also best selling car (one better) and model of the 3G era was that gen 3 series which they do continue to sell as well today, however they fell off about 30% on average in that same time frame. The 4G did about 50% on average. 3 series recovered through 2 generation changes that came a few years ahead of Acura's, including lower and broader trims and lower entry prices, and consistent updating. Still they are not recovered to peak year during that time however they did just recently close the gap and got back into normal range in 2013. Should get back to peak this year.

Sure we know 50 is a lot different than 30 so naturally the radical styling had a lot to do with things but not all of it, probably the single biggest factor after the economy. Lots of other things to add there as well but won't get into because it's been beaten to death.

Car is doing good, heading in the right direction certainly a big sigh of relief after the 4G but too early to call considering it combines two models and it's a brand new intro, the 4G did good at intro believe it or not. The car will recover a lot of ground for Acura but it's yet to be seen if they can recapture the same type of success they had with the 3G as BMW has just about did with the 3.

Rocket_man

Meanwhile.... The 10,001st TLX is an SSM/Ebony Advance model sitting here in Houston waiting for a buyer....


New 2015 Acura TLX 3.5 V-6 9-AT P-AWS with Advance Package

Legend2TL

No, the RLX is not based on the Accord chassis.

Different floor pan and dimensions as well. They look similar but they are not the same chassis. They are part of the same Honda large sedan platform line.

Similar to how the Ody, Pilot, and Ridgeline were based on the Honda large truck platform but they may have shared some components and some structural pieces they all had different chassis's.

There is a big difference in car industry terminology between a chassis and a platform.

BEAR-AvHistory

There is a reason why the TL always follows the Accord in generation releases. Terminology issues aside the bottom line is the Acura can't be put into final development till the Accord design is frozen.

M3/4 follows the same development path at BMW.

Legend2TL

Not always, the 1G MDX came out a year before the 1G Pilot

iamitman

Remember this car is to replace both TL and TSX.

dzionny_dzionassi

NO, it is based on 8th generation Accord.

Legend2TL

No, it's base on the large sedan platform.
The 8G Accord was used as a engineering test mule for the RLX.

Quick Drives: Acura RLX Precision All-Wheel Steering, Sport Hybrid SH-AWD Prototypes

Take a look at the floorpans and subframes, they are similar but are different.

LTuscano04

Glad to be 1 out of the 4890 that contributed!

kurtatx

If we argue this, it's just as easy to argue the ILX and the TLX replaced the TL and TSX and that the ILX is the underperforming car. It's a silly argument, you're wrong, let's move on. The TLX is selling remarkably well.