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Old 08-04-2014, 02:26 PM
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Invoice Prices

I am not sure if this is in another thread, but here are the invoice prices for each TLX trim based on a car buying service my credit union offers. The data is pulled from NADA, so it should be legit.

Invoice prices from NADA w/o destination:

Base 4cyl= $29,167

Tech 4cyl= $32,897.64

Base V6= $33,078.11

Tech V6= $39,250.00

Advance V6= $39,815.75

Tech SHAWD= $38,843.98

Advance SHAWD= $41,851.85
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if Acura dealers really want to steal customers away from other luxury brands or customers wants to upgrade from mainstream brands, they need to sell these TLXs at least $1k below invoice to start.
Old 08-04-2014, 02:44 PM
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Thanks for posting the invoice info. Anyone have information yet on Acura's lease program (money factor, residual value) for each TLX trim? Now that these cars are hitting dealer showrooms, I'm sure the August numbers have been set.
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Check the advantage program. It seems the lease is not good. The option to buy after 3 years costs $21047 and the MSRP is 31890. For 3 years, we have to pay 299*36+2200=12964. It looks quite expensive .
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if Acura dealers really want to steal customers away from other luxury brands or customers wants to upgrade from mainstream brands, they need to sell these TLXs at least $1k below invoice to start.

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Old 08-04-2014, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blacktsxwagon
I am not sure if this is in another thread, but here are the invoice prices for each TLX trim based on a car buying service my credit union offers. The data is pulled from NADA, so it should be legit.

Invoice prices from NADA w/o destination:

Base 4cyl= $29,167

Tech 4cyl= $32,897.64

Base V6= $33,078.11

Tech V6= $39,250.00

Advance V6= $39,815.75

Tech SHAWD= $38,843.98

Advance SHAWD= $41,851.85
Tech V6 invoice above can't be right.
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You are right. I was looking at MSRP. It is 36,807 for a V6 Tech.
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Those prices look like deals to me.
Old 08-04-2014, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if Acura dealers really want to steal customers away from other luxury brands or customers wants to upgrade from mainstream brands, they need to sell these TLXs at least $1k below invoice to start.
Buying a deal and not quality of the car means you are looking at the wrong vehicle. Or an Infiniti, etc. where other than looks, the only reason you would buy it is it being CHEAPER. Combine cheaper with pathetic resale value, and that doesn't last long. Value and cheaper are two very different terms.

Try the TLX if you are in the market, and see what you think. Great car, especially even in just standard 4-cyl form as the reviews confirm.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:51 PM
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Looks like a good deal for the tech package will be $34,300 or below. (including destination)
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Originally Posted by beach109
Buying a deal and not quality of the car means you are looking at the wrong vehicle. Or an Infiniti, etc. where other than looks, the only reason you would buy it is it being CHEAPER. Combine cheaper with pathetic resale value, and that doesn't last long. Value and cheaper are two very different terms.

Try the TLX if you are in the market, and see what you think. Great car, especially even in just standard 4-cyl form as the reviews confirm.
Seriously.... I agree with getting a good deal, but if Acura is already trying to under cut the competition at pricing then look at the value of the car rather than just saying "Oh I can buy the car at a cheap price." You will end up hating it and wasting your money. Plus it will kill the resale value of the car.
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if Acura dealers really want to steal customers away from other luxury brands or customers wants to upgrade from mainstream brands, they need to sell these TLXs at least $1k below invoice to start.
Agreed! If they don't they're liable to have another RLX pricing fiasco on their hands. Hopefully major metro areas with several dealerships will work against each other and be willing to go even lower to get the business.
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This is from Jackson Acura is Roswell, Ga. FYI this region of metro Atlanta is home to stars, entertainers, musicians, actors, athletes, etc. Their pricing is usually 3-4k above the competition which the closest is 40 miles away.

2015 Acura TLX 3.5 V-6 9-AT P-AWS with Advance Package

Body Style:SedanEngine:3.5L V-6, 290 hpTrans:9atExt. Color:Graphite Luster MetallicInt. Color:Ebony LeatherStatus:In StockStock #:FA000756VIN #:19UUB2F79FA000756MPG:N/A MSRP$43,395*
  • Jackson Acura
  • 10900 Alpharetta Hwy
  • Roswell, GA 30076
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if Acura dealers really want to steal customers away from other luxury brands or customers wants to upgrade from mainstream brands, they need to sell these TLXs at least $1k below invoice to start.
I disagree. I think the TLX comes in at a very competitive price and trumps the competition in feature content. It will be a huge hit for Acura and I see Acura taking back some former customers who left the brand for other makes.
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Originally Posted by dysonlu
Tech V6 invoice above can't be right.
I just checked NADA myself and it seems that OP copied the MRSP price for the V6 Tech instead of it's invoice cost (they're side by side).

Here are the prices that I just saw:
I4 Base $29,167
I4 Tech $32,897
V6 Base $33,078
V6 Tech $36,807
V6 Advance $39,815
SH-AWD Tech $38,843
SH-AWD Advance $41,851

It seems that the SH-AWD Base is missing though.. unless that's only available in Canada.
Old 08-05-2014, 10:39 AM
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Sorry, yes I did mess that up. SHAWD base is only for Canada as you said.
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Got some early lease rates, this is for the US not region or trim specified so it may vary but most likely it is for the TLX base with a 62% residual value, 12k for 36 months and an MF of .00039. I would say that is fair to good considering it's the first month and it's a new model with anticipated demand. Issue will be moving up the trim ladder where historically the residual values are set lower and at times the rate goes up.

Another downside to Acura leasing, they do appear to stick it to the guys who want more equipment but it does tend to have some advantages at lease end and with resale value in general but still curious to see the rest of the figures before any final judgement on that.

Where other makes may charge an arm and a leg more in most cases, the rate is set to the engine and drivetrain version and level of equipment and content doesn't factor in but in contrast, you don't recover as much from the portion of equipment and content you pay for and it can hurt resale in general. All depends on what you are looking to do at or near lease end or the impact of trying to break out early.

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Originally Posted by beach109
Buying a deal and not quality of the car means you are looking at the wrong vehicle. Or an Infiniti, etc. where other than looks, the only reason you would buy it is it being CHEAPER. Combine cheaper with pathetic resale value, and that doesn't last long. Value and cheaper are two very different terms.

Try the TLX if you are in the market, and see what you think. Great car, especially even in just standard 4-cyl form as the reviews confirm.
i'm sure it's a nice car. what i was saying is nothing stands out from this model screaming BUY ME. outside of diehard Acura owners it'll be a tough sell for other luxury/premium brand owners. for those who said i was crazy for suggesting the $1k below invoice price, we bought my wife's '09 TL Tech back in March of '09 when the brand new model just came out not too long ago and was able to get it down to $33500 before TTL without much of negotiation.

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I disagree. I think the TLX comes in at a very competitive price and trumps the competition in feature content. It will be a huge hit for Acura and I see Acura taking back some former customers who left the brand for other makes.
these were the exact words when the new RLX and MDX came out. look at them now, nothing earth shattering sales numbers imo. look, i'm not saying TLX will fell flat, just saying nothing stands out for that car.
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
i'm sure it's a nice car. what i was saying is nothing stands out from this model screaming BUY ME. outside of diehard Acura owners it'll be a tough sell for other luxury/premium brand owners. for those who said i was crazy for suggesting the $1k below invoice price, we bought my wife's '09 TL Tech back in March of '09 when the brand new model just came out not too long ago and was able to get it down to $33500 before TTL without much of negotiation.
Have you test driven the car? Have you sat in one even? If not, then how can you say that it's "this" or "that"? Pictures and others' reviews should not be the deciding factor.

You picked up an '09 and it was panned by critics
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Originally Posted by Stew4HD
Have you test driven the car? Have you sat in one even? If not, then how can you say that it's "this" or "that"? Pictures and others' reviews should not be the deciding factor.

You picked up an '09 and it was panned by critics
you missing my point, i used our '09 TL as example that even brand new generation model can get discounted to below invoice during their first year. i also will add the biggest reason we got our '09 TL was the price, at $33500 it was a bargain and we felt we couldn't pass up, but if near MSRP of $39000 (at the time) we'd definitely walked away.
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
you missing my point, i used our '09 TL as example that even brand new generation model can get discounted to below invoice during their first year. i also will add the biggest reason we got our '09 TL was the price, at $33500 it was a bargain and we felt we couldn't pass up, but if near MSRP of $39000 (at the time) we'd definitely walked away.
I wasn't talking about the price you paid for your '09. I was talking to the point you made "i'm not saying TLX will fell flat, just saying nothing stands out for that car. "

I just find it odd that many of you guys are calling for the death of this car before it hits the street all because it doesn't live up to your perceived expectations without ever driving it or even seeing it in person. Maybe it's just me looking at it with an optimistic outlook.

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Originally Posted by kevTL888
these were the exact words when the new RLX and MDX came out. look at them now, nothing earth shattering sales numbers imo. look, i'm not saying TLX will fell flat, just saying nothing stands out for that car.
They weren't the exact words said by me. I always thought the RLX was a bit overpriced. And for the record, the MDX is selling quite well. As for the TLX, I stand by my original comments. Like the car or not, Acura nailed the price points on this one in my opinion. Time will tell if I'm wrong or right. I think for the features it offers in comparison to it's competitors, it most definitely stands out.
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For those interested in leasing, I found out the lease program for the 4-cyl. w/ tech package. For 36 mos. and 15k miles/yr., the money factor is .00135 and residual value is 60% (12k miles is 62%, 10k miles is 63%).

If you're interested in the numbers for other trims, there's a thread going in the edmunds forums where you can ask. The mods there are always responsive.
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Thanks for this! I am new to leasing, what does that translate to in a monthly payment?
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Originally Posted by blacktsxwagon
Thanks for this! I am new to leasing, what does that translate to in a monthly payment?
I'd recommend using a lease payment calculator (you can find one online or download an app for your phone) to calculate monthly payments. And since you're new to leasing, I'd definitely recommend some internet research on how it works because it's pretty easy to be duped into paying unnecessary fees/costs/charges.

Here are the basics: money factor is essentially the interest rate. Multiply the money factor by 2400 to translate to an APR. A money factor of .00135 is equal to a 3.24% interest rate. The lower the money factor, the lower your monthly payment.

The higher the residual value, the lower your monthly payment. If the residual value is 60%, you're only paying for 40% of the cost of the car over the life of the lease. But if you drop the residual value to 50%, now you're paying for 50% of the cost over the same time period. Obviously that increases your monthly payment.

The money factor and residual value are set by the manufacturer, and they change from month to month. They also vary from trim to trim. Generally, the lease program will be more or less favorable to buyers depending on how well each model is selling. As an example with the TLX, if the V6 FWD trim isn't selling very well in a few months, it will probably have a lower money factor as compared to the other trims.

When leasing, you'll negotiate the cost of the car just as you would if purchasing outright. But be careful because dealers won't hesitate to inflate the money factor for their own gain. That's why it's valuable to know what money factor Acura is offering each month. I should also note that the money factor offered may vary depending on your credit score. Hope this helps guide you.
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^ Great guide, TY!
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Thanks! Sounds complicated to me. I really love the TLX and was thinking about moving into a lease, but I think I will just pay off my TSX and wait for a CPO to come along. I don;t like the idea of not owning the car I drive.
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Seriously 0.00039? If it is true i will definitely lease one i4 tech
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Seriously 0.00039? If it is true i will definitely lease one i4 tech
Check my post above. The .00039 must only apply to the base model. I was told the I4 tech's rate is considerably higher.
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So if the V6 Tech invoice is $36,807, what do you think you can get the car for? My dealer said it lists for $40,145.
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