View Poll Results: Do you want a tune by HONDATA for the 4G TL?
Yes, I want a reflash for my 4G TL 3.5L
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Yes, I want a Flashpro for my 4G TL 3.5L
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15.44%
Yes, I want a reflash for my 4G TL 3.7L
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Yes, I want a Flashpro for my 4G TL 3.7L
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158
61.00%
No I do not want a tune for my 4G TL
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Excelerate Performance: Poll on the HONDATA Tune for the 4G TL
#161
2010 TL AWD 6MT: New King
I just saw this thread, and it sounds pretty awesome.
What are potential gains with the tune? For example as a performance metric, the TL 6MT has 0-60 times of 5.2-5.5 seconds. With said tune, would it potentially drop the 0-60 below 5 seconds? Would it give more torque at 2K-3K rpms? Thanks.
What are potential gains with the tune? For example as a performance metric, the TL 6MT has 0-60 times of 5.2-5.5 seconds. With said tune, would it potentially drop the 0-60 below 5 seconds? Would it give more torque at 2K-3K rpms? Thanks.
#162
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT, Give us better MPG too !!
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT, Give us better MPG too !!
#163
Instructor
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
#165
Instructor
#166
So I've received some more communication from HONDATA. Basically they have a full plate with R&D and there's a long list of vehicles and parts on that list. However, they said that they will be reviewing that last in April. At that time we should have a rough idea of where we stand and when the project could be completed. Once I have that info we can begin taking deposits and establishing pricing, timelines, product info, etc.
#167
Instructor
iTrader: (32)
Put your name and car info on the list
In general, just tuning a stock car isn't going to make your car faster/gain you a lot of WHP (wheel horse power). To take advantage of a tune you need performance parts. Think upgraded cams, PnP intake manifold/runners/heads, bigger intake/exhaust, ect. Even a supercharger or turbo(s) if you really want some HP.
Say you have a SH-AWD MT TL, its fully bolted on (cat back exhaust, J-pipe, HFPC's, CAI intake, bored TB and PnP Runners). With a tune you could gain around 20-30WHP, when comparing pre-tune WHP numbers to after tune WHP numbers.
A CT supercharger with a tune on a otherwise stock car should gain around 70WHP.
Put your name and car info on the list too
I just saw this thread, and it sounds pretty awesome.
What are potential gains with the tune? For example as a performance metric, the TL 6MT has 0-60 times of 5.2-5.5 seconds. With said tune, would it potentially drop the 0-60 below 5 seconds? Would it give more torque at 2K-3K rpms? Thanks.
What are potential gains with the tune? For example as a performance metric, the TL 6MT has 0-60 times of 5.2-5.5 seconds. With said tune, would it potentially drop the 0-60 below 5 seconds? Would it give more torque at 2K-3K rpms? Thanks.
Say you have a SH-AWD MT TL, its fully bolted on (cat back exhaust, J-pipe, HFPC's, CAI intake, bored TB and PnP Runners). With a tune you could gain around 20-30WHP, when comparing pre-tune WHP numbers to after tune WHP numbers.
A CT supercharger with a tune on a otherwise stock car should gain around 70WHP.
Put your name and car info on the list too
#168
Burning Brakes
^^^^ where do you get these numbers? By the way there are no cams for the TL that I'm aware of it, it's stock or nothing. Also I'm not aware that there are larger injectors available either which you would need with a supercharger if that prototype ever came full circle.
#170
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. MugenSi08 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. MugenSi08 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
#171
Instructor
iTrader: (32)
^^^^ where do you get these numbers? By the way there are no cams for the TL that I'm aware of it, it's stock or nothing. Also I'm not aware that there are larger injectors available either which you would need with a supercharger if that prototype ever came full circle.
I also had a built J35 (PnP heads/intake manifold/runners, bisimoto Type S cams, supertech valve train) which I netted 20WHP just by tuning via flashpro (stock J35 ECU vs tuned with flashpro). This was a J32A3 engine with J35 bottom end (crank, pistions and rods), although the compression was lower than stock, 9:5:1 in this case.
As for the 4th gen TL, I too haven't seen any cams available yet. I know bisimoto, webcams (who regrinds for bisimoto) or someone else could regrind stock cams to make a little power.
Larger injectors are fairly easy; can get a pigtail harness to make aftermarket injectors plug & plug, cut and splice stock harness to support aftermarket injectors, larger OEM injectors (RDX) or modify OEM TL injectors to suit your needs.
#172
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH_AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH_AWD 3.7 AT
#173
Burning Brakes
These are guesstimates, not actual numbers but they should resemble what you would actually see (I had a supercharger on my otherwise stock 04 TL which I netted 60WHP with a tune with the MS3/J&R ECU). The flashpro will net a bit more power (more things can be adjusted with the flashpro vs MS3) and most people are closer to sea level (unlike myself) which will also net higher gains.
I also had a built J35 (PnP heads/intake manifold/runners, bisimoto Type S cams, supertech valve train) which I netted 20WHP just by tuning via flashpro (stock J35 ECU vs tuned with flashpro). This was a J32A3 engine with J35 bottom end (crank, pistions and rods), although the compression was lower than stock, 9:5:1 in this case.
As for the 4th gen TL, I too haven't seen any cams available yet. I know bisimoto, webcams (who regrinds for bisimoto) or someone else could regrind stock cams to make a little power.
Larger injectors are fairly easy; can get a pigtail harness to make aftermarket injectors plug & plug, cut and splice stock harness to support aftermarket injectors, larger OEM injectors (RDX) or modify OEM TL injectors to suit your needs.
I also had a built J35 (PnP heads/intake manifold/runners, bisimoto Type S cams, supertech valve train) which I netted 20WHP just by tuning via flashpro (stock J35 ECU vs tuned with flashpro). This was a J32A3 engine with J35 bottom end (crank, pistions and rods), although the compression was lower than stock, 9:5:1 in this case.
As for the 4th gen TL, I too haven't seen any cams available yet. I know bisimoto, webcams (who regrinds for bisimoto) or someone else could regrind stock cams to make a little power.
Larger injectors are fairly easy; can get a pigtail harness to make aftermarket injectors plug & plug, cut and splice stock harness to support aftermarket injectors, larger OEM injectors (RDX) or modify OEM TL injectors to suit your needs.
#174
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH_AWD 3.7 AT
54.elietania -09 tl sh awd 3.7 at
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH_AWD 3.7 AT
54.elietania -09 tl sh awd 3.7 at
#175
6th Gear
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
#176
Instructor
iTrader: (32)
I'm not all that familiar with the injector sizes for Hondas\Acura, but I would assume the 3.7 SH AWD engine or the RLX engine would have the largest injectors available. Going off your numbers listed above at a 80 hp gain, I would think any stock injectors would be to small. What about a larger fuel pump? And the fuel rail? Do you have return system on the typeS? 20 hp doesn't sound like a lot but I guess if your grinding stock cams it's pretty good. My Cobra with a Comp Cam swap and tune picked up 60HP alone, without any other bolt ons. I guess these TL engines aren't tuner friendly or the parts and tune are inferior to other products. The V6 mustang and newer V6 Camaro see gains of 120-150 hp with cams, intake manifold and supercharger. Why can't these TL engines see these kind of gains?
3.7L TL injectors are 400CC's as mentioned here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/3g-tl-parts-sale-atlp-roof-spoiler-window-visors-lower-grills-denso-injectors-more-856032/
Turbo RDX (07-12) injectors are 410cc (do a quick Google search if wanted)
RLX is a 3.5L, although I'm not sure of the injector size but I would think they are smaller than the 3.7L TL.
Fuel pump is most likely similar to the 3G TL (must take apart stock pump, modify it and then install aftermarket fuel pump in stock housing)
Fuel rails are the same as the 3G TL (P2R sells these)
I didn't have a custom fuel set up on any engine I had.
As for gains on a TL vs American Muscle, the aftermarket support for American Muscle is much greater than the TL. So yes, I would say the range/quality (based on performance gains) of parts is greater for American cars.
As for tuner friendly, that's what this whole thread is about. To get flashpro for the 4G TL, so we can tune.
PM me if you have more questions.
#178
Burning Brakes
I was using stock 3G TL injectors and fuel pump on both my supercharged engine and my NA 3.5 engine.
3.7L TL injectors are 400CC's as mentioned here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=856032
Turbo RDX (07-12) injectors are 410cc (do a quick Google search if wanted)
RLX is a 3.5L, although I'm not sure of the injector size but I would think they are smaller than the 3.7L TL.
Fuel pump is most likely similar to the 3G TL (must take apart stock pump, modify it and then install aftermarket fuel pump in stock housing)
Fuel rails are the same as the 3G TL (P2R sells these)
I didn't have a custom fuel set up on any engine I had.
As for gains on a TL vs American Muscle, the aftermarket support for American Muscle is much greater than the TL. So yes, I would say the range/quality (based on performance gains) of parts is greater for American cars.
As for tuner friendly, that's what this whole thread is about. To get flashpro for the 4G TL, so we can tune.
PM me if you have more questions.
3.7L TL injectors are 400CC's as mentioned here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=856032
Turbo RDX (07-12) injectors are 410cc (do a quick Google search if wanted)
RLX is a 3.5L, although I'm not sure of the injector size but I would think they are smaller than the 3.7L TL.
Fuel pump is most likely similar to the 3G TL (must take apart stock pump, modify it and then install aftermarket fuel pump in stock housing)
Fuel rails are the same as the 3G TL (P2R sells these)
I didn't have a custom fuel set up on any engine I had.
As for gains on a TL vs American Muscle, the aftermarket support for American Muscle is much greater than the TL. So yes, I would say the range/quality (based on performance gains) of parts is greater for American cars.
As for tuner friendly, that's what this whole thread is about. To get flashpro for the 4G TL, so we can tune.
PM me if you have more questions.
The size and availability of aftermarket parts for American muscle has nothing to do with it. Any supercharger or Turbo you throw on a Mustang for example is going to net you at least 100hp. That's on the 3.7 V6 mustang. The TL just isn't designed for a great tune and SC from what I see. The 3.5 twin turbo in my sho can be tuned to achieve 480 Hp on a tune alone with no others mods, from a stock 365. More if you swap the turbines and do a few other mods, yes I know the engine us turboed already but you get the idea. The two engines I noted are both V6 engines.
#179
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Yes the SC is underpowered and tuning with the MS3 which I used to tune it (was best thing available at the time, Hondata is worlds better) is not very good.
The amount of aftermarket support has everything to do with it. There are multiple brands and versions of superchargers for American cars (making each other build better kits and get those numbers). There is one kit from one manufacture for the 3G TL (CT), therefore there is no competition. Its an M62 Eaton blower which was underpowered for the 3G TL. So Paul (member NVA-V6) retrofitted a M90 Eaton blower on the 3.2 and 3.5 TL engines. CT has said the M90 can't fit under the hood of the 4G TL. Yet that may not be the true answer. It could be simply because it is easier for CT to only sell M62 blowers (makes inventory/purchasing a lot easier and cheaper).
Now if you want to go turbo, then you open up the true power potential of the J series. This one is putting down over 700WHP:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/turbo-3-5l-j-series-v6-high-cr-build-700-whp-901774/
The amount of aftermarket support has everything to do with it. There are multiple brands and versions of superchargers for American cars (making each other build better kits and get those numbers). There is one kit from one manufacture for the 3G TL (CT), therefore there is no competition. Its an M62 Eaton blower which was underpowered for the 3G TL. So Paul (member NVA-V6) retrofitted a M90 Eaton blower on the 3.2 and 3.5 TL engines. CT has said the M90 can't fit under the hood of the 4G TL. Yet that may not be the true answer. It could be simply because it is easier for CT to only sell M62 blowers (makes inventory/purchasing a lot easier and cheaper).
Now if you want to go turbo, then you open up the true power potential of the J series. This one is putting down over 700WHP:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/turbo-3-5l-j-series-v6-high-cr-build-700-whp-901774/
if you didn't have to upgrade your fuel system, then two things happened. The actual SC application is overpriced and underpowered or the tuning of the 3G is not great and needs more work or the engine is not tuner friendly.
The size and availability of aftermarket parts for American muscle has nothing to do with it. Any supercharger or Turbo you throw on a Mustang for example is going to net you at least 100hp. That's on the 3.7 V6 mustang. The TL just isn't designed for a great tune and SC from what I see. The 3.5 twin turbo in my sho can be tuned to achieve 480 Hp on a tune alone with no others mods, from a stock 365. More if you swap the turbines and do a few other mods, yes I know the engine us turboed already but you get the idea. The two engines I noted are both V6 engines.
The size and availability of aftermarket parts for American muscle has nothing to do with it. Any supercharger or Turbo you throw on a Mustang for example is going to net you at least 100hp. That's on the 3.7 V6 mustang. The TL just isn't designed for a great tune and SC from what I see. The 3.5 twin turbo in my sho can be tuned to achieve 480 Hp on a tune alone with no others mods, from a stock 365. More if you swap the turbines and do a few other mods, yes I know the engine us turboed already but you get the idea. The two engines I noted are both V6 engines.
#180
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
#185
HONDATA had advised us last month that they would review their list of projects this month and that the owners would discuss this project. Let's hope they can fit us in and we can get some more details. I'm ready when they are assuming everyone on this list comes through.
#186
Instructor
Josh, i think it may be fair to assume that only 70% of this list will follow through. Plan for it now and we wont get hurt by it later. Plenty of people may not know they are signing up to pay, dont have the requested cash or have dropped off the map and cannot be contacted.
#187
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
#189
Drifting
iTrader: (5)
Clean up~
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
#190
Burning Brakes
Josh, i think it may be fair to assume that only 70% of this list will follow through. Plan for it now and we wont get hurt by it later. Plenty of people may not know they are signing up to pay, dont have the requested cash or have dropped off the map and cannot be contacted.
#191
Burning Brakes
Yes the SC is underpowered and tuning with the MS3 which I used to tune it (was best thing available at the time, Hondata is worlds better) is not very good.
The amount of aftermarket support has everything to do with it. There are multiple brands and versions of superchargers for American cars (making each other build better kits and get those numbers). There is one kit from one manufacture for the 3G TL (CT), therefore there is no competition. Its an M62 Eaton blower which was underpowered for the 3G TL. So Paul (member NVA-V6) retrofitted a M90 Eaton blower on the 3.2 and 3.5 TL engines. CT has said the M90 can't fit under the hood of the 4G TL. Yet that may not be the true answer. It could be simply because it is easier for CT to only sell M62 blowers (makes inventory/purchasing a lot easier and cheaper).
Now if you want to go turbo, then you open up the true power potential of the J series. This one is putting down over 700WHP:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901774
The amount of aftermarket support has everything to do with it. There are multiple brands and versions of superchargers for American cars (making each other build better kits and get those numbers). There is one kit from one manufacture for the 3G TL (CT), therefore there is no competition. Its an M62 Eaton blower which was underpowered for the 3G TL. So Paul (member NVA-V6) retrofitted a M90 Eaton blower on the 3.2 and 3.5 TL engines. CT has said the M90 can't fit under the hood of the 4G TL. Yet that may not be the true answer. It could be simply because it is easier for CT to only sell M62 blowers (makes inventory/purchasing a lot easier and cheaper).
Now if you want to go turbo, then you open up the true power potential of the J series. This one is putting down over 700WHP:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901774
#192
Account closed
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
#193
Cruisin'
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
#194
10th Gear
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
#195
Senior Moderator
A M90 is a large supercharger, well large for this engine anyways. They are readily available and all over the market. So I don't think that's really the issue, unless CT is overstocked on the M62. I think other things come into play as far as the internals and the block itself.
#197
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
63. Vtec314 - 12 TL SH - AWD 3.7 Tech Package, AUTO
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
63. Vtec314 - 12 TL SH - AWD 3.7 Tech Package, AUTO
#198
Whats AT?. MT?
#200
Burning Brakes
1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
63. Vtec314 - 12 TL SH - AWD 3.7 Tech Package, AUTO
64. DJTanveer 09 TL 3.5L AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
63. Vtec314 - 12 TL SH - AWD 3.7 Tech Package, AUTO
64. DJTanveer 09 TL 3.5L AT