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I have been in the market for a Acura TL SH-AWD in manual for the longest time. Finally one came up for sale locally and I got it checked out. I would love to know your guys' thoughts on it.
2012 Acura TL SH-AWD
Has ~120K miles
Silver blue paint - paint looks clean and interior looks clean. The owner was upfront and honest and did not hide anything. Owner has maintenance records for the car since his ownership (owned since 2015)
I drove the car and it felt great.
After a PPI, here's what the mechanic noted:
1. Tires are worn and will need an alignment
2. Leaking fluid between transmission and transfer case
3. Engine is leaking oil from rear crank bearing bolt
4. clutch is about 60-70% worn
5. Found evidence of rodents gnawing at foam under the hood - the owner has owned it for several years. After this he has since garaged it has no sign of any rubber components that were damaged
6. Front rotors are starting to warp (mild vibration while high speed braking)
7. Propeller shaft looks to be replaced so that's good
Owner and I negotiated down to $11.5K. He is the second owner. Pass or good deal?
pretty low price for a 6MT!
if you are comfortable with the issues found and have the funds to immediately throw at it to make it brand new again, jump on it.
if, however, are not comfortable with the issues found and dont have the funds to immediately throw at the tires and alignment and maybe clutch, then pass on it.
Thanks for the insight! I am fortunate to have the funds available to replace the tires and alignment (and I have a friend who owns a tire shop). I'll probably keep working the clutch til it starts to slip.
I would also address the leaking of oil at the rear main seal, I dont think its at the crank bolt.
so $11k plus a grand or two to make it brand new again is a great deal for a 6MT.
you could probably get away with turning or machining the rotors, because technically they arent warped...what happens is pad material gets deposited onto the rotor which then makes it wobble because of the uneveness
Last edited by justnspace; 05-19-2021 at 07:09 PM.
As an update - I bought the car! I need to replace the tires soon. The car is seeping some oil that I will address after monitoring, but doesn't look like it's not consuming too much oil. My understanding is I missed the class action lawsuit (since it's been 8 years since 2012 purchase date) so I can't take it in unfortunately.
I have been in the market for a Acura TL SH-AWD in manual for the longest time. Finally one came up for sale locally and I got it checked out. I would love to know your guys' thoughts on it.
2012 Acura TL SH-AWD
Has ~120K miles
Silver blue paint - paint looks clean and interior looks clean. The owner was upfront and honest and did not hide anything. Owner has maintenance records for the car since his ownership (owned since 2015)
I drove the car and it felt great.
After a PPI, here's what the mechanic noted:
1. Tires are worn and will need an alignment
2. Leaking fluid between transmission and transfer case
3. Engine is leaking oil from rear crank bearing bolt
4. clutch is about 60-70% worn
5. Found evidence of rodents gnawing at foam under the hood - the owner has owned it for several years. After this he has since garaged it has no sign of any rubber components that were damaged
6. Front rotors are starting to warp (mild vibration while high speed braking)
7. Propeller shaft looks to be replaced so that's good
Owner and I negotiated down to $11.5K. He is the second owner. Pass or good deal?
2. Leaking fluid between transmission and transfer case - Most likely the front right CV axle oil seal
3. Engine is leaking oil from rear crank bearing bolt - 100% need to re-seal the oil pump, $ 600-1000
Give me the VIN number and I'll show you СarFax
No point, 1/3 quart between oil changes is nothing.
still... carbon is building on pistons and valves. I am doing 3k OCI and I am not burning any oil, not sure if there will be any consumption if I will go over 3k miles. Anyways flushing saved my engine.
I have tried BG 103 before, it is extremely ineffective in J37 problem. It can be used for prophylaxis every 3 oil changes, but it cannot decarbonize stuck piston rings
I have tried BG 103 before, it is extremely ineffective in J37 problem. It can be used for prophylaxis every 3 oil changes, but it cannot decarbonize stuck piston rings
I think you are mistaking something... I personally think it was little more effective compared to dmso, (but we both know there is nothing more potent than DMSO LOL) . I think you are mixing up product. 103 is a 6qt jug, not a can. It comes in a kit with BG rinse.
I think you are mistaking something... I personally think it was little more effective compared to dmso, (but we both know there is nothing more potent than DMSO LOL) . I think you are mixing up product. 103 is a 6qt jug, not a can. It comes in a kit with BG rinse.
I will not argue, I do not need this, here is the video after 2 flushes BG 103 (extremely ineffective) and then after DMSO (
) . I will just repeat, if you have completely coked and stuck oil piston rings on J37, then only DMSO or a complete disassembly of the engine, cleaning the pistons with a possible replacement of the rings will help you.
Last edited by altair47; 05-27-2021 at 10:25 PM.
Reason: 2
It is one flush, 2nd was a rinse. If he would do 3 in a row flushes with 103 results would be much better (like what he probably did with dimexide, at least 3 flushes). DMSO works better by removing hard baked deposits, while BG and DMSO performs equally on piston rings and on sludge. On top of that there is no need to worry about plastic oil pickup tube on j37 engine. Not so stressful for the engine (less detonations), no bad smell and no need to deal with painted inner part of the engine or painted oil pan(j37 dont have one) ...Since I have done both there is no need to argue But i will repeat myself too , Bg 103 or DMSO for fully baked rings. While 109 is great as maintenance item to keep them clean.
It is one flush, 2nd was a rinse. If he would do 3 in a row flushes with 103 results would be much better (like what he probably did with dimexide, at least 3 flushes). DMSO works better by removing hard baked deposits, while BG and DMSO performs equally on piston rings and on sludge. On top of that there is no need to worry about plastic oil pickup tube on j37 engine. Not so stressful for the engine (less detonations), no bad smell and no need to deal with painted inner part of the engine or painted oil pan(j37 dont have one) ...Since I have done both there is no need to argue But i will repeat myself too , Bg 103 or DMSO for fully baked rings. While 109 is great as maintenance item to keep them clean.
I was really amused by this advertisement, I have never seen such a stupid fraud, they specially removed the engine head, passed it through a chemical wash for auto parts, screwed it onto the short block and forgot to anoint it with oil so that at least it was evident that this was not a fraud. What do you think about it? https://www.facebook.com + /bglsi/posts/10155621725567723 Link doesn't work here together
Last edited by altair47; 05-27-2021 at 11:04 PM.
Reason: 1
It is one flush, 2nd was a rinse. If he would do 3 in a row flushes with 103 results would be much better (like what he probably did with dimexide, at least 3 flushes). DMSO works better by removing hard baked deposits, while BG and DMSO performs equally on piston rings and on sludge. On top of that there is no need to worry about plastic oil pickup tube on j37 engine. Not so stressful for the engine (less detonations), no bad smell and no need to deal with painted inner part of the engine or painted oil pan(j37 dont have one) ...Since I have done both there is no need to argue But i will repeat myself too , Bg 103 or DMSO for fully baked rings. While 109 is great as maintenance item to keep them clean.
Wait a minute, 3 washes in a row? How much money is $ 600? Not expensive? It took me less than $ 150 to complete the DMSO procedure.
Last edited by altair47; 05-27-2021 at 11:29 PM.
Reason: 1
Wait a minute, 3 washes in a row? How much money is $ 600? Not expensive? It took me less than $ 150 to complete the DMSO procedure.
Jug is $82, count was just for reference... Just saying: BG I would say is more "nuclear" if we would rate per flush. But, like Russians say for lacquer oil deposits DMSO works better . Like the deposits we find under valve cover of J series engine. DMSO fumes give good cleaning power, while BG dont have these cleaning properties. It needs more "flow".
I saw Andrey's video before, and was little puzzled why it gave not so great results, maybe he got the fake one..
Anyways other people had much better results:
I was really amused by this advertisement, I have never seen such a stupid fraud, they specially removed the engine head, passed it through a chemical wash for auto parts, screwed it onto the short block and forgot to anoint it with oil so that at least it was evident that this was not a fraud. What do you think about it? https://www.facebook.com + /bglsi/posts/10155621725567723 Link doesn't work here together
Sorry, cant see it. Asking to log in, I don't have Facebook account and don't think that I will ever have one LOL
Jug is $82, count was just for reference... Just saying: BG I would say is more "nuclear" if we would rate per flush. But, like Russians say for lacquer oil deposits DMSO works better . Like the deposits we find under valve cover of J series engine. DMSO fumes give good cleaning power, while BG dont have these cleaning properties. It needs more "flow".
I saw Andrey's video before, and was little puzzled why it gave not so great results, maybe he got the fake one..
Anyways other people had much better results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ppZKmAIcw
This is a 100% promotional video, do you have a full video of this flush?
05-19-2021, 06:34 PM
But i will repeat myself too 
, Bg 103 or DMSO for fully baked rings. While 109 is great as maintenance item to keep them clean.
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