laptimus

<6 sec 0-60 was a big factor me going for my '12 TL SHAWD

I am yet to stretch her legs as I just bought it last saturday.

But thought of starting this post to understand other's experience

Please mention

0-60:
Year:
Model: TL off course
FWD or AWD:
MT or AT:
Where (Track or Public Road or Somewhere else) :

Hope it should be fun recording this

BEAR-AvHistory

Should be interesting.

Arcelyte

2009
TL-SH
0-60...



I actually have no clue. I don't even look at the car like its some 0-60 machine. I'm afraid to stomp on it leaving a light in fear that the diffs will go Hiroshima.

But in the snow... I killed everyone off the line.
In the snow... I could smoke a Ferrari F40.

types1fan

Oh man not again, the TL is a luxury sedan with 305 Horses and maybe the best AWD system I'm the market, it does everything well and doesn't under or over achieve in any way shape or form. It's just a well balanced machine not a hot rod. So do your 0-60 runs and let us now the outcome, hope u don't fuck something up.

NwTSXmt

8 seconds...lmmfao...what he said above...except for fking up something...unless you are running drag radials you will have tire spin and thats about it...I have launched the wifes 6MT SHAWD very hard all while under warrenty of course..

Booya4139

bought the wrong car, G37 is more powerful and smaller and lighter. If you wanted a luxury sedan to drag race should have went in that direction.

012TL-GLM

https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-295/2013-tl-sh-6at-vbox-results-882639/

The car is fast given its size and power plant - a turbo or SC would put it at the top of its class, hell for its weight a V8 would be justified

CerberusKy

iTrader: (1)

Drove around yesterday, and probably took me about 8 minutes to get to 60. which is way faster than my 65 Karmann Ghia could do.

laptimus

well g37 maybe good in its respect but considering its size and luxury tl does clock impressive numbers

anything this size and luxury clocking 0-60 in 5 something seconds is what that let me make my decision - and I am happy I did that

but from response guess people don't try to clock 0-60 in tl's - but ill try hoping I wont ruin my car

BEAR-AvHistory

You might want to look in the racing section here at Acurazine. You will find that a lot of guys have spent a lot of money trying to equal the times posted in the two main magazines for TL's.

Its a nice comfy car that preforms well for its size & power but if 0-60 was an important criteria you would have done better looking elsewhere.

wreak

I couldn't find one video on youtube of anyone in a 4th generation TL at a drag or racetrack.

vp special k

I doubt you'll find any 4g owners blazing down the 1/4 mile with impressive numbers

Litt

I don't know if this is accurate but it is on this website.
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Acura-0-60-mph-Times.html

2009 Acura TL 0-60 mph 5.4
2009 Acura TL SH-AWD 0-60 mph 5.4
2010 Acura TL SH-AWD (manual) 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.7
2012 Acura TL SH-AWD 3.7 V6 0-60 mph 5.4

laptimus

ok how do I remove this thread again - I am very happy with my TL - I shouldn't have started this thread - my bad

g37guy01

Not to worry, is a good possibility that it will be locked.

BEAR-AvHistory

They look like the times listed by C&D/R&T

Real life including some Acurazine members like JB Bearcat

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura--TL-Drag-Racing.html

sockpuppet

I like that. Google Edmonton weather today, and you'll see why...headline of the CBC website for Edmonton as I write this: "Highway pileup near Edmonton leaves 100 injured"

Edward'TLS

The 2012 6AT TL has got one more forward gear ratio and also much closer gear ratios, than the 2009 5AT TL. If the 6AT has no improvement in 0-60 over the 5AT, Honda must have done a really bad job on this 6-speed tranny.

BEAR-AvHistory

They are all 6MT claims all 5/6AT are 6+. Think C&D got 6.2 out of the 6MT last tested.

winstrolvtec

Don't know why it matters, when is last time anyone went from a dead stop to 60 mph and exactly for what reason? I would suggest using 5-60 as a measure for relative performance and one that actually makes sense for normal everyday driving but I'll add my 2 cents anyway, since it was brought up.

Generally only used in a race setting but FWIW, the TL AT's don't brake torque which would otherwise yield a slight advantage in the numbers. Nontheless, some mags and independent track results have still recorded the 5AT at 5.9-6.0 as a best. Don't know how easily that would be replicated, but IMO since there is no brake torquing, there is not any extra room for driver error, actually less, so as long as the conditions were right, should be feasible.

Plus, when you look at the car's other acceleration data, it's in line with other cars that also exhibit similar straightline performance, often repeated at a track and generally by a more enthusiastic consumer base. Even the dragtimes link is pretty indicitive of realistic 0-60 expectations. Other cars that usually run those mid to high 14's and high 96's-99 traps are capable of 5.9- low 6's, the SH especially because AWD's have a slight tendency to overachieve in 0-60 due to traction advantages. So, those are good, safe guesses, on the better/best end of the spectrum IMO.

As far as that 5.4 0-60 for an 09 5AT (since there was no 09 6MT, came out as a 2010), that's seems more like wishful thinking. I wouldn't totally rule it out for the 6AT TL, which in theory should be that much better than a 5AT, however I've only seen the one official test for the 6AT from C&D and it was no better, if not worse, than the previously tested 5AT from the same source, so it's just a summation on my part, who really knows?

BEAR-AvHistory

Its an artificial measurement created in the stone age by a car writer for Mechanics Illustrated or a magazine like that. It has taken on a life of its own but has no real value unto itself outside of handicapping an occasional standing start Traffic Light Grand Prix where no one really goes very fast anyway.

1/8 & 1/4 mile numbers are more fun because driver error can be introduced to make things interesting. Have no idea what my 0-60 is, its quick, but 90mph comes up in 8 seconds from a start. Expect to push that up to 94mph this summer.

BEAR-AvHistory

Just took a look & the guys name was Tom McCahill of Mechanix Illustrated & the father of auto tests in magazines. Came up with 0-60 in the 1940’s to test performance of cars since 60mph, a mile a minute, was a big deal back then & the NHRA with the 1/4 mile did not yet exist.

g37guy01

A number of highways have to stop to yield to oncoming traffic on certain entrances. Therefore mashing the gas to get to 60 from a dead stop is the way to go.

BEAR-AvHistory

+1 big time - along with 2 into 1 merges at traffic lights during rush hour

winstrolvtec

Naturally, mashing the gas from a dead stop has use, don't get me wrong (although probably considered more on the rare side as a percenatge of driving instances) but in the context of exactly 0 mph to 60 mph and how 0-60 is measured and often replicated for performance test results and uses, it's not the same thing.

You would not be brake torquing at a stop sign and you likely wouldn't excessively launch your car either, in other tranny formats. Furthermore, there is no roll out, when applicable.

In everyday instances, the difference between 5.9 and 6.2 should not really be a deal breaker, however the difference between 6 seconds and 7 seconds could easily matter, which is more to your point, where I agree.

In the context of 0-60 and what is the absolute best anyone has recorded or seen for this car or that car, that doesn't have the same type of real world bearance that you speak of. Interesting discussion either way, I just so happen to think there is a distinction to be made.

Perhaps I should have better worded it as - when is the last time you tried to get the absolute best 0-60 time out of your car and for what reason?

012TL-GLM

The non track, average driver will never get close to the 0-60's the pro's achieve, and would most likely sit and spin their tires in any situation requiring them to get the EFF out of the way before something bad happens. That's why God gave us AWD

BEAR-AvHistory

and articulated feet, the original traction control

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I enjoy 0-60 because its usable at a stop sign; racing against a friend.
after 60 the speeds are too great for a little stop sign action.

BEAR-AvHistory

This might be of interest for some 0-60 perspective.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/4-cylinder-bmw-328-0-60-4-6-seconds-883562/

Steven Bell

iTrader: (2)

No worries Laptimus-welcome to Acurazine. If you ever need anything, feel free to send me a Personal Message (PM). As you can see, there's been some good links and information here. I hope that helps you.

dturboman

I own a 6AT and a Vbox, I've gotten many sub 6 second runs, if you drive it right.

My best run has been on a 1/4 tank and holding the brake while quickly stepping on the gas till the revs hit 1800, the brakes are only holding the car back for a half second if that.... not fully brake torquing.

as my car approaches 1200 miles its been getting a bit fast over the brand new tests. I have a drop in filter and TB coolant bypass

My best run to date has been a 5.53
1.9 60'
8.8 @ 81.5mph 1/8th mile

I think with a Jpipe and some more miles it can run a 5.2-5.3 no problem.

If you want to spend the money go buy a Vbox - I use it on my other cars.

But I've messed around with the new dynolicious app and its been within a tenth or two of the Vbox when used correctly.

winstrolvtec

Good info dturbo, thanks for sharing. I'm curious if you can confirm the suspicions of whether the 6AT definitely upshift to 2nd gear (and may or may not shift back to 1st) when applying fully brake torque, like the former 5AT?

Also have you had your Vbox calibrated or know how well it corresponds with a local track? Those numbers look great for a car with 1200 miles on it, makes me wonder what it is about the auto TL's that C&D has a hard time testing, provided that you are getting reasonably accurate test results, that is.

dturboman

My local track is Atco,compared to the track it was .08 off and within 1mph with a 12" roll out. - on another vehicle.

Next time I'm at the track I might bring the Acura along just to see what it really runs.

I always use the same stretch of private industrial park road for my tests. - 1.5 miles of pure flat vacant road.

As far as full brake torque I'll run a test on it to confirm as soon as the weather clears up, but I've been able to get 1800-1900 rpm brake torque launches and remain in 1st gear.
- but the best runs I've gotten was a quick stab on the throttle while still on the brakes, as soon as the rpm hit 1900 I let off the brake - This was .25 seconds faster than the full brake torque method for me. I have noticed some inconsistency on the first gear upshift, sometimes it will shift @5900 other times it will shift up @6500. - the early shift can slow it down a few tenths.

NwTSXmt

Dont back track dude...whats the problem?....it just the internet...Most on this forum are happy with their TL...

dturboman

i can confirm it does not upshift when you brake torque, I just made a fast video to show proof.

it will hold first till about 6400 and upshift into second, this was full brake torque @2400-2500 rpm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54P_1...ature=youtu.be