skarface

He mentions the engine will be a carryover V6 with the Turbo 3.0 coming later.

bmoua15

Confirmed by AlexAuto's that the 3.5L V6 will serve as a base trim. I assume they'll add another 10-15+hp

Gen4MDX

for the type s

BigTurkey

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Heres the press release
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases/release-6863b02537c7e48379ea3d103c07b43a-new-flagship-mdx-prototype-makes-global-debut

4151zero

very nice, but looks expensive!

nhhiep

outside looks almost the same. inside looks too busy. I rather buy a 2020 model with $13k off msrp like I did 2 months ago

RCJD

Wow! 25 speakers with 1000 watts, nuf said!

GhostTL09

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of course you would, most won't admit buyers remorse lol.
I held off on $15k off MSRP because this new Gen will be better, looks better and feels like the cost is justified. You'll be upgrading in 2 years.

mrgold35

The 3rd Gen MDX looks pretty plain inside and not very luxurious compared to 4th Gen MDX interior. I glad Acura stepped up its game and provide an interior that wasn't at the same level or even a step behind its Honda products.

They just need to roll out the 4th gen MDX hybrid and I'm onboard!

jason60050

I’m on my second 3rd gen MDX...sport hybrid advance currently. While I think this new MDX looks great in and out I think it will be much more expensive, much heavier, and to be honest it looks like a CX-9. Not hating on Acura because they are moving in the right direction. This vehicle will be plagued with bugs much like the new RDX was. My second vehicle is a 2018 BMW M3...I love Acura/Honda don’t get me wrong but I think I will be moving toward a german suv next. To each their own.

RCJD

100% agree with you Jason - The disappointments that i have encountered on my 2020 RDX A-Spec was so bad that now I have conclude that first year Gen of that vehicle will be plague with issues - big & small. So yah, if I will upgrade later it will be after the refresh-if ever.

mrgold35

One advantage with the 2022 MDX is it will have some of the tech from the 2019 RDX. I can see the 2022 MDX having less issues the 1st model year compared to the all new from the ground up 2019 RDX.

fiatlux

Perhaps, but there's still a ton of new stuff on the MDX that can go wrong. Digital dash, massage seats, all those speakers, and I believe this is is the first time the J35+10AT combo will be paired up with the 4th gen SH-AWD system (or any SH-AWD system for that matter). Rattles, creaks, and all matters of build quality is probably going to be lowest in the first model year as well.

skarface

The discounts right now are pretty tempting. Assuming Acura gets to $5-7k off within a year or so like they did with the RDX, it would still be about a $10k difference. I’m not sure if that’s small enough to not get a 2020 and wait until the discounts get bigger and the normal Acura first year kinks are worked out.

mrgold35

The only issue I see with waiting for 2022 discounts is how well it will sell and the extra long model year run of the 2022 of possibly being +18 months. You could have a two identical 2022 Models with one build in Spring/2021 and another built in the of Spring/2022 for the exact same price. We are going to really have to look at build dates if the early production models do have issues that are resolved later during the production run.

4151zero

Our 2nd vehicle was also an f80 m3 comp, and I sold that off for a new f97 X3mC,which fits our family life with a toddler much better. The f97 fills the void of performance and utility, and is just as competent. The MDX is our go to for longer road trips (within our covid19 bubble) lately.

JAB00

Interesting, I have a 2019 A-Spec RDX. I have close to zero issues. Initially biggest issue was CarPlay but it was resolved with one of the updates and I haven't had any problems since.

Lalin

I find it appalling that a 2022 Flag ship “luxury” car that is going to cost around $60K when nicely equipped has the infotainment of the 2019 RDX which was not great to begin with.
Having a track pad, let alone 2 instead of a touch screen is a terrible alternative when navigating through carplay or android auto.

mrgold35

I'm really hoping the digital dash has the option of doing some split screen functions like moving over the Navi, carplay, and other info-tainment functions like you see with Audi. It might not be that bad between the HUD, digital dash, and wider center stack screen.

Gen4MDX

we are getting the 2022, engine, transmission & shawd are all proven, those would be my main concerns on any new model, but they have already been proven on other h&a vehicles!

GhostTL09

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SMh all car manufactures have some common tech parts. If the RDX was that bad why are they selling so well? Also phone companies use the same tech, just updated software and phone shape but people always want the new model for $1200, even though they only owe $200 on their phone. Why? Because it feels better to own than last years model. I haven't heard any issues about the RDX since the 2019 model year, other than squeeky brakes. Any updates on the class action lawsuit of limp dick mode?

DJ Iceman

What's hilarious is that no matter what interface manufacturers put in (e.g. touchscreen, knob, trackpad, etc.), some people complain. And when they offer multiple input options, they get blamed for "making the interface too complicated".

skarface

Just adding touch to the current screen in the RDX would probably satisfy most people. Lexus basically did that in the RX after people complained about the touchpad.

ostrich

Finally, a voice of reason! No matter what the manufacturers put in, people complain! Seriously, all of these technical issues that people complain about (the push button transmission that Acura uses, the track pad etc), I found that I got used to them in little time, and I am not necessarily the most tech-savvy person around! The double screen that Acura has may not have the best logic, but I truly appreciate having two separate screens for different information, yet people complain as if that double screen set up was ruining their life! Seriously....

e-man22

We love the double screen. Nav on top, everything else below.

moose66

What really is amazing is all of the complaints from those who knew about many of those design/performance/etc. "flaws" going in and yet STILL PURCHASED THE VEHICLE. As if the issues they have with the vehicle would somehow change. A pass for those who discovered things after the fact.

Lalin

My problem is not the double screens. I happen to like them.
My issue is the quality of the graphics and the resolution of the backup camera. They are terrible when compared to other cars.

ESHBG

I have never had an issue with double screens but it sucks when some things are there vs dedicated buttons like seat heating/cooling, etc.

e-man22

Actually I agree on this. There’s no reason not to have a dedicated button for heated seats.

BLEXV6

Me too.

jefferson88

Oh but people didn't appreciate having physical buttons back when they were the norm either. Read or watch reviews of the second gen MDX (or second gen Cayenne as another example) and you'll see plenty of remarks about how the cabin is littered with buttons and it's impossible to find anything.
Then touch screens became popular and people complained that you had to look where you touch and it was too distracting for cars.
Then the auto makers shift back to scroll wheels, trackpads, or mouses and everyone is upset that the screens are too far away or too high up on the dash (despite it being less distracting)
Now they're making the cars with built in virtual assistants and gesture controls so you don't even have to touch anything and people will still find a way to complain about it...
It's a never-ending cycle of advancement and criticism because humans resist change at a fundamental level.

You know how when you drive a rental car for the first time it takes you a little longer to park because you don't know where the ends of the car are? By the end of the week with the rental you park it like a pro. Similar thing happens when you buy a new car with new technology. Regardless of how simple or complicated it is to use, you'll get used to it. As mentioned above, it's impossible to make a car that is perfect for everyone.

ESHBG

Agreed that you won't make everyone happy at once but the too many buttons comments came from the fact that there really were, even my TSX is a little button crazy. But there's a nice balance and there's some legitimate reasons not to use touch screens for everything like when it gets too cold and you have gloves on and have to try to fiddle with a touch screen and then the screen is slow to react until it warms up, etc.

I think anything climate related should be a real button and then just about everything else can be touch screen.

Edward'TLS

You are absolutely correct. Some functions are best to operate with a physical button.

For example, on my MDX, the "Fresh air / Recirculate air" function is nested 2 layers under the touch screen. The first touch brings up the "Fresh/Recirculate" menu, and the 2nd touch to select the Fresh or the Recirculate function. Not only do I need to take my eyes off the road twice in order to locate the right function to touch, it also means that I cannot do a quick income air shutoff in a pinch (such as following a foul smelling garbage disposal truck).

The Fresh/Recirculate function should be on a physical button for quick access, and not nested 2 layers under the touch screen.

fiatlux

The problem is that everyone has different functions they would like to have quick access to...but there's a very simple solution for that. Just give us some physical (hell even taptic if fine) buttons that are blank but customizable. They can either take you directly to a particular screen on the infotainment, or toggle on or off some function. That way everyone gets to have their cake and eat it too.

FWIW on the 3G RDX (and I presume 2G TLX as well) the recirc (and various other HVAC controls like heated/cooled seats) have returned to a physical button.

NeoGeoH

My wife and I emphatically agree with you. 100% We prefer 2 screens and logical buttons.

I do not understand why Honda & Acura are so slow to have decent quality/resolution graphics on their infotainment systems.

mrgold35

Hopefully, the 4th Gen MDX extra wide single screen has the ability to move most used functions to a home screen like you can with a smart phone. I hate having to hunt and peck for certain features buried 2-4 levels into the menu. Simple things like one touch air recirculate button because there are a lot cattle feed lots or milk dairy off the state hwys in Eastern NM and West TX and the carbon cabin filter doesn't help.

Tony Pac

I was right behind a GLE and honestly the new MDX rear is very similar to GLE. I am not a huge fan of the rear now but the 4thG will be great.

technocrat

In my opinion they should have extended their double screen layout and made it more inline with how the Range Rover and latest Audi's are doing. They already had a base with existing dual screens they just needed to enhance it to make it more modern, touchpad is going 2 steps backwards.

leomio85

2020 wasn't the first MY, 2019 was. Aside from one CEL hiccup and poor interior build quality, my 2020 RDX has been problem free. *knock on wood* What issues have you had with yours?

If it's anything like the 3G RDX, yes, you can move icons around the menu. Also, looking at the pics, all HVAC controls are buttons, like in the RDX (just different location and layout), not buried in the infotainment. I wouldn't be able to stand that ... and if it was a thing in the RDX, it wouldn't be parked in the garage right now.

Gen4MDX

I don’t want touch screen, fingerprints all over it, rather have track pad!