Ramrodthrusterpuppy

Yeah, tried that! Most Canadian retailers know that they can't compete with US tire prices and they won't bother to try. Problem is when you buy US and have them shipped up here, the shipping, Duty, brokerage and taxes can kill ya so most don't bother.

dannyman67

On a side note, does anyone have an '07 TL-S with stock rims with the 255/40/17's on them? If so, any tire rub (I think not but wanted to ask)?

dannyman67

OK, I'l answer my own question :-)

There is no rub -- just got a set of eagle f1 a/s put on. ;-)

Tungo

dumped all the way on tein ss with 255/40/17 and no rub. not even with 4 people in the car

BEAR-AvHistory

There is a lot of clearence & if you had wider wheels (stock 8") you could go bigger.

NEWireless

Got my 255/40R17 Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires installed today on OEM copy rims.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12797137@N06/2358597083/

Very happy!

Inaccurate

Here is the pic from Post #484 by "NEWireless" directly above.

ctoro99

Newireless,

How do you feel about the width of the tire (looks)?

TLAdvanced

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Newireless,
Why would you get rid of the type-S rims for chromed 04-06 wheels?? I think it makes the car look like a fake-S...

NEWireless

I think these tires fill up the wheel wells much better than the stock 235s. Great improvement!

As for the wheels, I didn't like the look of the gunmetal S-type rims when I got the car, so I took delivery of the car with the 'standard' TL wheels and immediately put Blizzak snow tires on those rims.

I like the looks of the older TL rims. The ones I bought are painted silver (not chromed).

To each his own.

Thanks.

I hate cars

I was going to do sort of the same thing when I was looking at buying a TL-S. I asked the dealer if they could swap my stock 06 rims out and put them on the new TL-S. They said it might cost me more so I walked away and never came back.

ctoro99

Not to take anything away from the S-type rim but IMHO the solid five-spoke rim has a very clean and aggressive look (spec. in not-so-fast motion) and are easier to maintain.

NEWireless

After 1,000mi on the new tires I have a review. I bought these tires because they were awesome on my '04 Mazda RX-8. However, they don't work as well on FWD; there's a lot of tread squirm when turning and accelerating (e.g. pulling out into traffic from a cross street).

Ramrodthrusterpuppy

Do you attribute this to the tread or perhaps the upsized width?
I'm considering 265/35/18s for my 8.5" A-Specs and while the math seems to work, I'm interested in more real world application opinions...

MR1

Well, I guess I wimped out today. I have followed this thread from the beginning and received lots of good information. I had every intention of going with either 255/40 or 245/40 tires. Costco even had the 245/40's in stock (20% or $40/tire more expensive).

Why did I end up with 235/45/17's? The tipping point for me was worse gas mileage from the other size tires. Very simply, more rpm's require more fuel. I haven't seen anyone mention that little fact here. Anyway, with gas @ $3.89 in my area, I'm not anxious to put more money in the tank every fill-up. I'll just have to be happy with the stock size in a Michelin Pilot A/S. YMMV

I hate cars

You probably need an alignment. Too much toe out. If the alignment is off, wider tires will bring it out. With proper alignment it drives the same with stock or wider tires.

paliknight

which brand would you guys recommend for someone whos living in new jersey? the stock tires (on my TL Type-S 2008) are garbage. i can't get good traction in third gear. it gets pretty cold here in winter (around 25 degrees Fahrenheit, below 0 degrees Celsius) and it snows occasionally (sometimes we get upto 4 inches of snow). what size and tire do you guys recommend?

BEAR-AvHistory

There are a lot of good brands & you will get as many opinions as there are members here.

The thing for Jersey is not so much the brand but that you get all-season tires not summer tires.

I have ultra performance summer 255/40/17's on my car but snow is very rare here in NC. Even so on a cold day I can feel the loss of grip if the tires are pushed. When we get snow the two cars with summer tires stay parked & we use the 4X4's one with all-season & one with mud/snow tires.

That being said I grew up in Jersey & commuted into Wall street from the shore for near 30 years. On a car that had to go in snow to get me to work & one that I was not going to swap winter for summer tires on a season change I would stay with the stock width tire with an all season tread.

The wider a tire is the worse it is in snow even if its an all season tire.

paliknight

thanks bear. i remember reading width greatly effects traction. so basically, get these?

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...72&rd=17&ar=45

not from that site specifically, but the actual tire. and how come the stock MXM4's are so expensive but they are garbage?

NEWireless

I would guess it has to do with the way the tread contact patch changes during sharp turning acceleration (e.g. right turn onto intersecting street). The tires are awesome during straight-line acceleration and high speed turning where the steering angles are not significant. The car only has 10k mi on the stock suspension, so I doubt it's an alignment issue.

I'm running the tires at 32psi now, I plan to try some different pressures to see how it affects the ride.

BEAR-AvHistory

They are a bit pricey & I don't see anything about snow performance. Go to the Tire Rack site & look the tire up.

There will be charts for how it performs in different conditions including snow.

The stock MXM4's are so expensive because most people will go into a tire place & say "put on what the car has" & eat the price.

Ramrodthrusterpuppy

The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S are a great tire....but pricey. You may also want to consider the Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S...mostly great reviews thus far although it's been on the market for a short time.
While the MXM4s get a bad rap here, Tire Rack tested them with other "Grand Touring" tires and they actually scored first compared to the three other makes tested. They are not an all out high performance tire, so cornering performance is sacrificed for road/noise comfort.

NEWwireless....thanks for the feedback....tire pressure will make signifigant differences in ride so I'd be interested to hear the outcome of your tests. I'm just trying to decide if I should take the chance with a set of 265/35s or stick with 245/40s. I could go with 255/40/18s but they are a fair amount taller than OEM than the other 2 sizes....

I hate cars

I will guarantee it's an alignment issue. Mileage doesn't matter but number of potholes and hard impacts do.

Bob05tl

BEAR-AvHistory--
What tires are you running on. I have 255/40/17 on the stock rims also and would be interested in hearing you feedback on ride, handling, road noice, etc. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

ACURAFANANTIC

1st i would like to thank dano for starting this and inaccurate for reviving it plus taking off with it.
so far most of this is about the advantages (top 10 list below) of 255 over stock size.

10) Lower effective gear ratio
9) Increased braking force per given pressure on brake pedal
8) Slightly lower stance (estimating 1/4 inch)
7) Great rim protection without being excessive
6) With the 255 tires, TL now looks even more like a BMW
5) You will be less envious of others having A-Spec
4) Having wider tires than a G35
3) Car feels lighter (accelerates easier, brakes easier, more responsive steering)
2) Don't need to stay 10-feet away from the nearest curb anymore
1) TL now looks plain 'ol "mean" as heck

I am by no means for or against either sizes. but can we also try to build a list of dis-advantages? for this to be judge fairly, both sides need to be posted in order to let others decide which to choose. so far i can only think of these:

1)less mpg
2)MID show more miles than actual traveled
3)speedo is off a tiny bit
4)more gap on wheel wall

Ramrodthrusterpuppy

Actually, the OP (Inaccurate) mentioned the cons early on in the thread...but thanks for the recap!

chill_dog

Up until now, I've been debating whether to get 255/40's, but was leaning towards since the tires I wanted didn't come in that size...but now they do. So I can get the tires I want in 255/40 or 235/45...this would be one of those times when choices aren't good . On the up side, I don't have to make this decision until I sell my old wheels.

ctoro99

Well ... don't leave us in suspense! Which tires do you like?

deke

Do you have any idea how small of a figure it really is? if it added up to 10 gallons in the time you own the car I'd be surprised. going +- 10 or even 20 really isn't getting into rough territory when factoring fuel in..

chill_dog

Sorry, didn't figure it was that big of a deal. I'm a Toyo man (and both the Proxes 4, which I've had, and the T1R's come in 255/40, as well as 235/45). However, with all of the good things I've seen/heard on the General Exclaim UHP's, I thought I'd give them a try on my new wheels, but I was going to have to get them in 235/45. Just yesterday I saw they've released them in 255/40. The price on them has gone up (most likely due to the shortage a while back), so they're $91 for 235/45 as opposed to $78, and $99 for the new 255/40. Not bad when you consider the ratings on Tire Rack.

MR1

No idea but I'd be surprised if it's that little difference. Perhaps I was looking for an excuse! Anyway, too late now, the Pilot A/S is a very nice tire and the 235/45/17's looks good on my car. BTW, gas is now $4.03 today.

I already get poor mileage with lots of stop and go driving, extended wait times and high temperatures. The tradeoff was just not what I wanted.

BEAR-AvHistory

At $4.05 per gallon a 10mpg save from 20 mpg to 30mpg at 15,000 miles per year is only worth $2.73 a day. Get down to the real MPG spread between tires & you are talking about maybe .25 a day at most.

Bob05tl

BEAR-AvHistory

Any input on the brand/performance of your tires?!?! Would be very interested in hearing about what you are using and how they are performing...

I hate cars

More rpms require less throttle...

It's just not that big of a deal. Diameters are so close that a slightly worn set of stock tires will have the same diameter as new 255/40s. You will never notice the difference in mileage.

emracer

If you are thinking about putting 255's on your car, you may want to check out this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hreadid=178613

I just put 265/35-18's on all 4 of my Ron Jon Inspyres and think the look and the ride are awesome. The 265/35-18's are nearly the exact same diameter as the stock 17's. They fill out the wheel wells nicely and so far no rubbing or other issues.

ctoro99

OK, Inaccurate is done!

Well, almost. I got the 255/40/17 put on my 05 but I went w/ the less expensive Kumohs. They got pretty good ratings on the areas that matter to me (noise, comfort, wet/dry grab) and are about $80 less than the phenomenal Eagles. But what sold me on them the most was the actual thread width on the road. Although I'd have to say I thought they'd look bigger.

But the difference is there and is great, no more bicycle tires on my car. Also, I can feel the softness of the tire compare to the P6 that were on the car at purchase. They feel the same as the BS03s I had in the past, a bit lumpy after the car sits for a while and round up well after a few miles, but again, much more forgiving than the rigid Pirellies.

As soon as I figure out how to add pics to a post I'll get some in.

ctoro99

Emracer,

I'd love to see some close up pics of your install.

Bearcat94

He posted pics in the linked thread.

ctoro99

Thanks Bearcat,

I had missed quite a bit of graphics by skipping the link.

Bob05tl

ctoro99,

Which Kumohs did you get? I bought the Fusions (255/40/17) for my TL about 8 months ago and they are horable!!!! I want to get a tire that will not cost me an arm and a leg, but still give me a good ride (noise, comfort and performance). I have heard good things about the Falkens and now the Kumohs.

I went with the 255's mainly for rim protection as well as a better looking stance on the road. Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!