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Wheel Fitment Sticky?

Hi All,

I'm pretty new to Acurazine. I have a wheel fitment question for an 06 Acura TL and wondered if there was a sticky somewhere about this. I found this tread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...-04-tl-807669/

It was helpful, but I've got a few specific questions for the flush guys out there. A lot of folks look like their running 33+ to 38+ offsets. My questions are:

1) How low of an offset can you run on an 18x9.5 wheel and still fit a 245/40/18 or 235/40/18 on all four corners? 2) I would expect to have to roll the fenders, but would a pull be necessary too? 3) How many inches can I lower the car with only slight camber?

I'd rather go with a little higher offset if it gets me more tire, but still want to be close to flush. Looking to balance some aesthetic with grip here.

Any help would be greatly appreciated (even pointing to other threads is helpful).

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Welp, this thread pretty much mirrored what I'm planning to do, so pretty much answered! (Thoughts are always helpful anyways though)

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...-909769/page2/
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A few points to ponder.

1. Every make/model/size tire is different.
2. Every drop amount is different, and even different per corner.
3. Every car is different.

Given these 3 facts, there are literally infinite possibilities for a set-up to not work, so the ONLY reasonable course of action is to find someone who already has what you want, or nearly what you want and use what they use, tweaking from there. No reason to re-invent the wheel.
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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
A few points to ponder.

1. Every make/model/size tire is different.
2. Every drop amount is different, and even different per corner.
3. Every car is different.

Given these 3 facts, there are literally infinite possibilities for a set-up to not work, so the ONLY reasonable course of action is to find someone who already has what you want, or nearly what you want and use what they use, tweaking from there. No reason to re-invent the wheel.
True. "No reason to re-invent the wheel." That has to be a pun, right? LOL

This car is running almost the set-up I want:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...-909769/page2/


I'm looking at the same wheels and similar offsets. This car is running 19x9.5+25 in the rear and 19x9.5+38 up front (w/ 5mm spacer). Tire size 235/35/19

Some variations though: 1) I'd rather run an 18in wheel over a 19in wheel and keep more sidewall. 2) I want to run the same offset (under 30) and tire size at all four corners. I just want to run 245's at all corners. I was thinking Hancook Ventus V12s.

But you're right, so many variables there's a ton of reasons if might not work.
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Originally Posted by Human_Kal
True. "No reason to re-invent the wheel." That has to be a pun, right? LOL
Right. lol

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But you're right, so many variables there's a ton of reasons if might not work.
You really need to find something closer to exactly what you want, I'm sure it has been done before. Before I purchased my wheel/tire combo I did 6 months worth of research, then still ended up getting the wrong tires, selling them, then finally getting the right ones for what I was after. I lost a few bucks, but it was worth it .



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Right. lol



You really need to find something closer to exactly what you want, I'm sure it has been done before. Before I purchased my wheel/tire combo I did 6 months worth of research, then still ended up getting the wrong tires, selling them, then finally getting the right ones for what I was after. I lost a few bucks, but it was worth it .



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This your ride? Beautiful car. I've seen it in the wheel fitment sticky. You're running like +40 and 265 tires, right? The TL seems to contradict a lot I thought I understood about wheel fitment. I suppose every car varies a lot, but I'm coming from 10 years of owning S-Chassis Nissans. Thanks for the advice. I'm not close to buying just yet. I'll do more reading.
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Originally Posted by Human_Kal
This your ride? Beautiful car. I've seen it in the wheel fitment sticky. You're running like +40 and 265 tires, right? The TL seems to contradict a lot I thought I understood about wheel fitment. I suppose every car varies a lot, but I'm coming from 10 years of owning S-Chassis Nissans. Thanks for the advice. I'm not close to buying just yet. I'll do more reading.
Yeah, it's my car. And yes, 18 x 9.5 +40 with 265/35. I have to do a lot of interstate driving, so I needed the combo to work well in all situations. I think the limit, for what I like (super wide tires), will be 18 x 10 +45 with 275's, but the car is my daily, so I really couldn't try it out.
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Yeah, it's my car. And yes, 18 x 9.5 +40 with 265/35. I have to do a lot of interstate driving, so I needed the combo to work well in all situations. I think the limit, for what I like (super wide tires), will be 18 x 10 +45 with 275's, but the car is my daily, so I really couldn't try it out.
The stance looks great, IMHO. I would only want to lower it a little more. How much did you drop it? And are you running a staggered setup or 265/35 on all four wheels? Right now I have 235/45 Continental DWS on my TL. I am wondering how much wider 255/35 Hankook Ventus V12s might be. I saw you mention the DWs were smaller for a 265/35 tire.
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Originally Posted by Human_Kal
Hi All,

I'm pretty new to Acurazine. I have a wheel fitment question for an 06 Acura TL and wondered if there was a sticky somewhere about this. I found this tread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...-04-tl-807669/

It was helpful, but I've got a few specific questions for the flush guys out there. A lot of folks look like their running 33+ to 38+ offsets. My questions are:

1) How low of an offset can you run on an 18x9.5 wheel and still fit a 245/40/18 or 235/40/18 on all four corners? 2) I would expect to have to roll the fenders, but would a pull be necessary too? 3) How many inches can I lower the car with only slight camber?

I'd rather go with a little higher offset if it gets me more tire, but still want to be close to flush. Looking to balance some aesthetic with grip here.

Any help would be greatly appreciated (even pointing to other threads is helpful).

Thanks!

i'm running close to what you're looking for - my set up 18x10 +25, with 245/40 tires Achilles ATR sports - i know you mentioned 18 x 9.5 - so i'm .5 wider I am on BC Coils - don't remember the exact drop amount but measured from ground to fender lip i'm 24" in front, and 24.5" in rear - I rolled my fronts flat, rolled the rears almost flat, and slightly pulled at each corner - also shaved the fender tab in the fronts (was eating away at the outer sidewall) i probably won't go under 10" wide on the wheels ever again - i get a slight poke and overall a more aggressive set up. I am running natural camber -1.6 in front, -2.4 in the rear, which is nothing, i just keep my toe in check at zero, no camber kits installed yet.

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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
Yeah, it's my car. And yes, 18 x 9.5 +40 with 265/35. I have to do a lot of interstate driving, so I needed the combo to work well in all situations. I think the limit, for what I like (super wide tires), will be 18 x 10 +45 with 275's, but the car is my daily, so I really couldn't try it out.

Still love the Photos Visual i'm going to have to plan a road trip lol, so I can get you to capture the car with your eyes behind the lens
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i'm running close to what you're looking for - my set up 18x10 +25, with 245/40 tires Achilles ATR sports - i know you mentioned 18 x 9.5 - so i'm .5 wider I am on BC Coils - don't remember the exact drop amount but measured from ground to fender lip i'm 24" in front, and 24.5" in rear - I rolled my fronts flat, rolled the rears almost flat, and slightly pulled at each corner - also shaved the fender tab in the fronts (was eating away at the outer sidewall) i probably won't go under 10" wide on the wheels ever again - i get a slight poke and overall a more aggressive set up. I am running natural camber -1.6 in front, -2.4 in the rear, which is nothing, i just keep my toe in check at zero, no camber kits installed yet.

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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
Yeah, it's my car. And yes, 18 x 9.5 +40 with 265/35. I have to do a lot of interstate driving, so I needed the combo to work well in all situations. I think the limit, for what I like (super wide tires), will be 18 x 10 +45 with 275's, but the car is my daily, so I really couldn't try it out.
I'm currently looking at some wheels that are 18x10 +45. They are 10th Anniversary Mustang Cobra replicas, but whatever. I think they may look pretty good. I would probably run my current tires until they are run down, which are 255/35/18. I know they will stretch, but I may as well run them down. Then eventually run a 275/35/18. We will see if I actually get them though. This is my current set up with 18x9 +38 255/35/18.

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255 on a 10 won't be a stretch - consdering 255mm = 10.04" give or take. So unless your tires run small - you shouldn't see a stretch - i have 245 on a 10 and not really a stretch at all - with 245mm = 9.6" +/-
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Originally Posted by Human_Kal
How much did you drop it? And are you running a staggered setup or 265/35 on all four wheels?
I'm not sure the drop, I just dropped it as far as I could being able to still get out of my driveway.

No staggered, all the same.

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I'm currently looking at some wheels that are 18x10 +45.
I was going to go custom Forgeline.

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Still love the Photos Visual i'm going to have to plan a road trip lol, so I can get you to capture the car with your eyes behind the lens
Any time man! I'm thinking something ultra dark for your car.



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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
I'm not sure the drop, I just dropped it as far as I could being able to still get out of my driveway.

No staggered, all the same.



I was going to go custom Forgeline.



Any time man! I'm thinking something ultra dark for your car.



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Originally Posted by VisualEchos

I was going to go custom Forgeline.
Must be nice to be baller. I just want to buy something cheap that's aggressive for the time being. We will see. I may keep mine and powder coat them white.
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Originally Posted by Boosejars
255 on a 10 won't be a stretch - consdering 255mm = 10.04" give or take. So unless your tires run small - you shouldn't see a stretch - i have 245 on a 10 and not really a stretch at all - with 245mm = 9.6" +/-
We will see. I'm still debating if I should get it or not. But I am running a 35 series and not a 40 like yours.
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These are all nice setups. Again, thanks for sharing your specs. I'm not close to buying anything just yet, just wanting to really know where I'm headed with the project (helps to really visualize it).
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Originally Posted by Boosejars
i'm running close to what you're looking for - my set up 18x10 +25, with 245/40 tires Achilles ATR sports - i know you mentioned 18 x 9.5 - so i'm .5 wider I am on BC Coils - don't remember the exact drop amount but measured from ground to fender lip i'm 24" in front, and 24.5" in rear - I rolled my fronts flat, rolled the rears almost flat, and slightly pulled at each corner - also shaved the fender tab in the fronts (was eating away at the outer sidewall) i probably won't go under 10" wide on the wheels ever again - i get a slight poke and overall a more aggressive set up. I am running natural camber -1.6 in front, -2.4 in the rear, which is nothing, i just keep my toe in check at zero, no camber kits installed yet.

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Btw, were is the fender tab you're talking about on the car? I expect if I shoot for a similar setup I'll just have it shaved when I get the fenders rolled. Wouldn't happen to have a picture!!??
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Originally Posted by BiggPinyot
Must be nice to be baller.
No baller here. I also think I wrote that wrong, I was speaking of Forgestars, not Forgeline. IIRC they were only $1760.
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Not really a great picture to post lol - but the area where the bumper meets the fender - next to where the screw ties in - there is extra material there, shave/grind it away - i used my dremel on it

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it was eating into the outer sidewall of the tire - i ran the tires like this for almost a 8 months before i moved to my next set - but that effing tab chewed them up - so it you plan to go low (flush) and you are 9" or wider you will most likely need to shave the tab - and yes, since I rolled flat in front, i have no fender liners either

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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
No baller here. I also think I wrote that wrong, I was speaking of Forgestars, not Forgeline. IIRC they were only $1760.
Yeah - but you can still build to suit with the Forgestars - so still a baller in my book
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Originally Posted by Boosejars
Not really a great picture to post lol - but the area where the bumper meets the fender - next to where the screw ties in - there is extra material there, shave/grind it away - i used my dremel on it. It was eating into the outer sidewall of the tire.
My tires have a few cuts in them like that, so I still need to remove the tab. Thanks for the pix.
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Originally Posted by Boosejars
Not really a great picture to post lol - but the area where the bumper meets the fender - next to where the screw ties in - there is extra material there, shave/grind it away - i used my dremel on it

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it was eating into the outer sidewall of the tire - i ran the tires like this for almost a 8 months before i moved to my next set - but that effing tab chewed them up - so it you plan to go low (flush) and you are 9" or wider you will most likely need to shave the tab - and yes, since I rolled flat in front, i have no fender liners either

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My fenders did this to my tires on my last car until I got them rolled. Thanks for the fender tab pic.
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No baller here. I also think I wrote that wrong, I was speaking of Forgestars, not Forgeline. IIRC they were only $1760.
Either way they are still expensive. I'm looking at like $1k wheels and hurting. But we will see. I've been looking into some wheels by Gram Lights and WedSport. I am still a long way from buying though.
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Originally Posted by BiggPinyot
Either way they are still expensive.
I don't consider them to be expensive at all, but I guess it's all about your reference point, I know guys with $20,000 in their custom wheels. I did purchase a set of $2200 wheels for the Lotus, but they listed for $3600, so I got a smokin' deal, and will get all of my $2200 back upon sale of the car (at some point). I keep things super nice, so if I can get $1200 back on a $1700 set of wheels, they really only cost me $500. Divided out by the number of months I use them, they really aren't too bad.
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I don't consider them to be expensive at all, but I guess it's all about your reference point, I know guys with $20,000 in their custom wheels. I did purchase a set of $2200 wheels for the Lotus, but they listed for $3600, so I got a smokin' deal, and will get all of my $2200 back upon sale of the car (at some point). I keep things super nice, so if I can get $1200 back on a $1700 set of wheels, they really only cost me $500. Divided out by the number of months I use them, they really aren't too bad.
I know what you mean. It's really on who's reference point you are going off of. Since I'm a cheap skate that's why it's so expensive for me. But eventually I want to get a nice set of wheels. But these wheels and tires will do for the time being. I'm not in a rush to get something different anyway. $20,000 wheels? That's insane. Maybe if it's going on an exotic I would get it. Still crazy to me.
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Originally Posted by BiggPinyot
I know what you mean. It's really on who's reference point you are going off of. Since I'm a cheap skate that's why it's so expensive for me. But eventually I want to get a nice set of wheels. But these wheels and tires will do for the time being. I'm not in a rush to get something different anyway. $20,000 wheels? That's insane. Maybe if it's going on an exotic I would get it. Still crazy to me.
Nah, I'm with you. 2k on wheels is expensive to me too! But money is relative. If you make 150k a year, what's 2 gs? But if you make 40k a year, shit, that's rent money.
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you just got to start out where you can...yeah I rocked the xxrs - for almost 3 years i think i paid $520 for the set - no problems, no issues, then I moved to Varrstoen bought this set for $700 - then I sold the XXRs with Tires and used that help cover cost on the new wheels/tires - but these Varrstoens have been doing good so far had them on the car for about a year can't complain. little steps - until you can get to where you want to be - a wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs, 3 cats, a house - i can't go all out on wheels lmao - but in stages it works.
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boose you have a wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs and 3 cats?? Fuck dude lol
- Yessir - the cats were not chosen - they kind of were an accident - was watching a friends house and someone dumped the cats - i'm not about cats, but them kittens would've died - so had to rescue 'em. My youngest son turned 4 yesterday, my oldest is 7 - stressful and crazy at times but I wouldn't change it, well except for them damn cats
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- Yessir - the cats were not chosen - they kind of were an accident - was watching a friends house and someone dumped the cats - i'm not about cats, but them kittens would've died - so had to rescue 'em. My youngest son turned 4 yesterday, my oldest is 7 - stressful and crazy at times but I wouldn't change it, well except for them damn cats
I have...

3 Cats
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3 Sets of wheels for the TL

I suppose I wouldn't mind having 3 wives, and 3 houses, but damn that expense.
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I have...

3 Cats
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3 Sets of wheels for the TL

I suppose I wouldn't mind having 3 wives, and 3 houses, but damn that expense.
I'll send you another 3 cats - lmao
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I'll send you another 3 cats - lmao
Dude, I love cats, if I could keep them all I would. lol
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Old 01-07-2017, 03:23 PM
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Dude, I love cats, if I could keep them all I would. lol
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I have 3 cats also...
Y'all is crazy
Old 01-12-2017, 08:02 AM
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Man, I don't even have a mortgage. Just a wife and kid. But I also live in California where rent is out the roof. These ballers in here with all these things and can still spend on toys. Must be nice. But that probably means you guys have education as well which allows you to have a job that can afford all these things. I've eventually going to get some wheels that are around $1400-$1800. Just not in a rush right now. Plus this TL is giving me issues. But not the cars fault. It's just an old car.
Old 01-12-2017, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BiggPinyot
Man, I don't even have a mortgage. Just a wife and kid. But I also live in California where rent is out the roof. These ballers in here with all these things and can still spend on toys. Must be nice. But that probably means you guys have education as well which allows you to have a job that can afford all these things. I've eventually going to get some wheels that are around $1400-$1800. Just not in a rush right now. Plus this TL is giving me issues. But not the cars fault. It's just an old car.
Haha - no baller here buddy, i have to budget out things, and then get wifeys approval lmao. I'm running varrstoens - been using them now for just over a year, but i've had no issues with them. i got them for $740 (i think they were even like 15% off per wheel) - but i get compliments on them all the time. i would also like to step in terms of wheel origin lol - but i do what works for me. hope your TL gets better
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Originally Posted by BiggPinyot
Man, I don't even have a mortgage. Just a wife and kid. But I also live in California where rent is out the roof. These ballers in here with all these things and can still spend on toys. Must be nice. But that probably means you guys have education as well which allows you to have a job that can afford all these things. I've eventually going to get some wheels that are around $1400-$1800. Just not in a rush right now. Plus this TL is giving me issues. But not the cars fault. It's just an old car.
Seriously, no rich guy here, but I'm 46, and have had time to pay things off, as well as put some money back, so when I see something I want I'm able to get it. You'll be the same when you're my age. The problem is, many times I convince myself I don't need what it is that I want, and never end up getting it. Such is life, everything is a compromise.
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