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Old 09-14-2016, 10:27 AM
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Tire quality?

So I've been needing new tires and decided to upgrade to 19" rims. I found a good set of rims, but I'm on a budget and the rims are on the slightly expensive side, so I wasn't trying to spend too much on the tires.
Given that, I was wondering if anyone can verify the longevity and quality of Toyo, Nankang, Rydanz, etc (first looking at Nankang). So if anyone knows how good and how long Nankang last, that'd be much appreciated.
Honestly, if anyone has any recommendations on a good (but cheap) tire brand, I'd love that too I just need something that'll last me a decent amount of time and not cost me too much.
My current tire setup on my Base w/Nav 2008 TL is stock 235/45/17 on 17x8 rims. My setup that I'm going for is 235/35/19 with 19x8.5 rims +35mm offset. Also, I'm pretty sure that'll fit, right????
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Going about it all wrong if you are going to skimp on tires instead of the rims.
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Originally Posted by Jackass
Going about it all wrong if you are going to skimp on tires instead of the rims.
what happens when ppl cant afford chit.
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Originally Posted by Jackass
Going about it all wrong if you are going to skimp on tires instead of the rims.
This.
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Originally Posted by Jackass
Going about it all wrong if you are going to skimp on tires instead of the rims.
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it's hilarious how people overlook tires, one of the most important components on a car

for cheap but still decent check out nitto motivo i think those are decently priced still
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Such confusion

Originally Posted by justnspace
what happens when ppl cant afford chit.
Yeahhhhh... but it's not just that. I mean I've heard from a lot of friends that it's better to get off brand tires anyways whether I'd be getting new rims or not. Because either way, depending on the tires, I might have to change the tires around the same time. I mean, if anything, maybe good brands will last like an extra half year or extra year. So I mean it's be the more cost efficient way if I can get a set for $350 every 2 years than to get a set for $650 every 2-3 years.
Especially because I'm a commuter and I drive to college about 60-70 miles a day for 3-4 days a week. I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but given the amount of driving I'd have to do, wouldn't it be better for me to get Nitto or Nankang than to get Michelin, Bridgestone, or Pirelli? I'm just really double minded about this whole situation right now lolol
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Originally Posted by sockr1
it's hilarious how people overlook tires, one of the most important components on a car

for cheap but still decent check out nitto motivo i think those are decently priced still
You're right, but I'm not really overlooking it. I still want decent tires. I just want the high end of the cheaper tires. Only because I've heard of some good brands that are still on the cheaper. Until all thoselse things I've heard, I wasn't looking at anything but Bridgestone, Continental, Pirelli, and Michelin.
But of course forsure. I forgot to mention I was looking at Nitto too. Because I know those are also more reasonably priced for me personally.
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Originally Posted by oneeb97
I've heard from a lot of friends that it's better to get off brand tires anyways whether I'd be getting new rims or not.
Your friends don't know Jack.

Originally Posted by oneeb97
I mean, if anything, maybe good brands will last like an extra half year or extra year. So I mean it's be the more cost efficient way if I can get a set for $350 every 2 years than to get a set for $650 every 2-3 years.
It's true, a good tire will retain more of its performance potential long after a cheap tire has lost it. However, I have a feeling you're not talking about performance, but just how long the tread will wear, and to that end, the cheaper the tire, the longer the wear. You simply can't get great performance for that long. The star that shines the brightest...
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Ive had cheap ass off brand tires once on my old 2nd gen TL. NEVER AGAIN!

Pay the money foe something good. Tires are everything
Old 09-15-2016, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Sickest TL
Pay the money foe something good. Tires are everything
This (except for the typo ).
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:27 PM
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sounds like your definition of quality is treadwear...treadwear differs based on the type of tire you have, not quality of the tire

by good tires we mean noise, traction, weight, tire compound (for stopping), stiffness, etc.

if you're looking for treadwear you can just get a touring tire or something.
if you are looking for cheaper tires but still quality, check out nitto, general gmax, or hankook

i'd rather have a good quality tire that stops better, takes curves better, and has little noise than something that will last me longer. just depends on what you're looking for. good luck!
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Originally Posted by oneeb97
Yeahhhhh... but it's not just that. I mean I've heard from a lot of friends that it's better to get off brand tires anyways whether I'd be getting new rims or not. Because either way, depending on the tires, I might have to change the tires around the same time. I mean, if anything, maybe good brands will last like an extra half year or extra year. So I mean it's be the more cost efficient way if I can get a set for $350 every 2 years than to get a set for $650 every 2-3 years.
Especially because I'm a commuter and I drive to college about 60-70 miles a day for 3-4 days a week. I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but given the amount of driving I'd have to do, wouldn't it be better for me to get Nitto or Nankang than to get Michelin, Bridgestone, or Pirelli? I'm just really double minded about this whole situation right now lolol
There's more to tires than just tread life. What about the performance factors like handling and braking ? Winter's coming. That means rain. Cheap budget tires tend to perform worse than tires from the larger well-known and established tire companies.


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Originally Posted by oneeb97
Yeahhhhh... but it's not just that. I mean I've heard from a lot of friends that it's better to get off brand tires anyways whether I'd be getting new rims or not. Because either way, depending on the tires, I might have to change the tires around the same time. I mean, if anything, maybe good brands will last like an extra half year or extra year. So I mean it's be the more cost efficient way if I can get a set for $350 every 2 years than to get a set for $650 every 2-3 years.
Especially because I'm a commuter and I drive to college about 60-70 miles a day for 3-4 days a week. I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but given the amount of driving I'd have to do, wouldn't it be better for me to get Nitto or Nankang than to get Michelin, Bridgestone, or Pirelli? I'm just really double minded about this whole situation right now lolol
A set of Continetnal DWS is under $1000 with 50K mile warranty.
Your set is going to be $350 + $100 install of (nakgangs, etc)

Just know that the off brand tires and even name brand tires can affect stopping distance. Michelin Pilot Sport A/S + 2 on my 760 increased stopping distance from 60 by a good few feet vs the Continental DW or Khumo's I had on it. You drive 60+ miles a day, how many accidents or crazy drivers do you see? Stopping even 1 foot faster could be the difference between making it home or not. It's literally about double the price to ensure your safety and to know you did as much as you reasonably could to protect yourself.

Screw your appearance, worry about your safety first. Discount tire has credit payment plans with 0% interest as do many other tire stores.

Also "off brand" tires can perform terribly in the rain, do you really want to hydroplane on your commute?

I have to drive upwards of 400 miles a day sometimes for work and I've learned that it's not worth it to skimp on tires. 1 blowout could cost you a day's pay or your job or worse!

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Old 09-21-2016, 11:40 AM
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There are 2 components on a car you should NEVER EVER skimp on, BRAKES and TYIZ as they're directly tied to your safety.

The 3G TL is a car designed for 17 or 18 inch wheels. Putting 19's on means your asking for trouble, like frequent flats and other Surprise issues that are sure to pop up.
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