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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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A big box of candy arrived at my doorstep today...




Anyone have suggestions or comments before I install this weekend?
- Damper adjustment settings (clicks)
- Ride height (F/R)

My preferability is a bit softer than stock suspension
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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A bit softer than stock...I'd go with about 20 clicks from soft, so start all the way at soft, and adjust 20 clicks towards stiff.

Ride height depends on your taste...I can share a few pics...

Ugly picture but this is a 1.425" drop all around



This is probably about a 2" drop...



Here my rear is slammed, 2.6" drop



And my front is about 1/4" from slammed...

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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Congrats OP!

Go away Italiano.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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I hope those pictures help you, Tannon.

If you plan on maxing them out I would run a little stiffer damping settings.

I was running about 24 clicks from soft, the other night I made it 28 in hopes to reduce rubbing.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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Great info. Once I get wheels in the spring I will go with the 2" drop all around. But, since im gonna lower with the stocks for now, I will settle for about 1.75" drop. Reason being is because I wanna make measurements with the coils installed before getting wheels to get the right specs. Although I am almost guaranteed that 19x9.5+22 is flush af!

I am aware that fendor roll is needed. But what about 15mm (F) and 20mm (R) spacers? I am assuming it all depends on the wheel spec.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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19x9.5 +22 would be very flush, and very nice.

but yeah, it all depends on the wheels you're getting. that'll determine the need for spacers. my advice is to just get wheels made/bought that are already flush out of the box so that there is no need for spacers.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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10 in the rear and 11 clicks in the front from full stiff.....TEINS ARE ONLY 16way dampening adjustable

Good luck and enjoy,you won't be dissapoimted.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Uhh...Tein SA is 32-way adjustable...

Tein SS is 16.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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this pic frightens me



Really tho.. what happened here? Were they too lazy to take off the bolts from the strut bar to adjust damper?
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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The pics you put up helped me decide what lowering kit I wanted lol Just wondering what size wheels you have? From the pics, it looks like 18"F & 19"R? Great looking ride BTW.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Glad I could help!

My specs are 18x9 +30 with 235/40/18.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Awesome! Thanks for the info, I'll keep this thread so I can come back to it.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Undying Dreams
Uhh...Tein SA is 32-way adjustable...

Tein SS is 16.


GOOGLE IT!lol

16 way
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Wtf, Tein is definitely fucking weird. When I first ordered the coils they said 32-way adjustable and had the correct lowering specs, now the specs are gone and they say 16...

I've personally adjusted my damping about 3 times now, mine are 32-way adjustable, how else would I be able to click it 32 times?
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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And you have the coils! I got all my info from your Tein SA thread

You should know the adjustments.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Undying Dreams
Wtf, Tein is definitely fucking weird. When I first ordered the coils they said 32-way adjustable and had the correct lowering specs, now the specs are gone and they say 16...

I've personally adjusted my damping about 3 times now, mine are 32-way adjustable, how else would I be able to click it 32 times?
Lol. In deed, they are 32-way.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Thanks for concurring. I emailed Tein about their info, hopefully they fix it!
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:03 PM
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How long did it take you guys to complete the installation? Did you use the DIY coilover thread link to help you out along the way? (Even though it is for HT-Specs)

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/diy-ht-spec-coilver-install-dummies-any-other-suspension-3g-garage-d-091-a-816065/
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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anyone know what the silver plates are used for when installing the coilovers? its on the top left of the OP's pic
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tannon
How long did it take you guys to complete the installation? Did you use the DIY coilover thread link to help you out along the way? (Even though it is for HT-Specs)

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816065
I used that exact thread. It took my brother and I about 4 hours.


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anyone know what the silver plates are used for when installing the coilovers? its on the top left of the OP's pic
I forgot what they are for but Tein's instructions are VERY straightforward and it makes the install go very smoothly.
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 01:26 AM
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I'm still a newbie on this side (suspension). I remember a long while back people talking bout tsx and tl sus being interchangeable, is this true? If so, could you order the tsx tien flex pillowball upper mounts and install them on the tien sa for the tl?
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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You definitely don't know what your talking about!.


http://www.heeltoeauto.com/tein-susp...a80-2uss2.html

http://www.tein.com/products/street_advance.html


Tsx,accord,TL

Are interchangeable just have to use tl top hats..I wouldn't personally do it

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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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I am considering getting spacers for my stocks so my offest doesnt look to sunken in with the coilovers installed. Have you guys done this?
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EATSLEEPRACE
You definitely don't know what your talking about!.


http://www.heeltoeauto.com/tein-susp...a80-2uss2.html

http://www.tein.com/products/street_advance.html


Tsx,accord,TL

Are interchangeable just have to use tl top hats..I wouldn't personally do it
I personally wouldn't either, that's why I was asking about uppers but I do appreciate the response. Has anyone done or got a custom tien set up yet or will I eventually (not even close to soon) be the first one
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Okay so EAT and I were partially right, just got this email back from TEIN.

Thank you for your inquiry. Our "Street Advance" coilover kit is 16 and 32 way damping force adjustable. This a common confusion with most consumers. With out our EDFC system our dampers are only 16 way adjustable. With our EDFC system installed the dampers can be adjusted 16 ways or 32 ways for a more precise adjustment.

In regards to the ride height measurements. If set to our recommended settings you will achieve a -1.7" drop in the front and rear. However in front you can achieve a Max Low of -2.9" or Max High of -1.1". In the rear you can achieve a Max Low of -2.6" and a Max high of -1".
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Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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i'm currently think about getting those tein sa but i think imma need the top mounts whip has 100k+ on it.....we shall see
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Old Mar 2, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by I Wanna Go Fast
i'm currently think about getting those tein sa but i think imma need the top mounts whip has 100k+ on it.....we shall see
I will be installing my TEIN SA tomorrow. I did not buy the top hats, and my TL has 111k mileage. I'll let ya know how the ride is.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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So I lowered my front-end today lol. I only had a few hours so I made the best of it.

Im dropped only 1.25", but it looks lower because the rears are still stock. I didnt want it to look too ghetto and sunk under the fender considering the stock offsets are +43. It just reduced the gap. I like the look a lot, but obviously I need to lower the rear when I get to it! I'll post pics tomorrow if I have time.

ps - I noticed a couple pops on my passenger side of suspension. I hope this is just my stock top hats setting in because they were somewhat worn...
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Am I gonna get a lot of LOL's?


Fronts lowered 1.25"

Rear still stock






I'll finish in the next couple of days, i promise.
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^ thats how our cars should look from stock
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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I will be installing my TEIN SA tomorrow. I did not buy the top hats, and my TL has 111k mileage. I'll let ya know how the ride is.
How does the front feel with the stock hats?...btw car looks good
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I like this look. What are the specs? Are you still lowered like this Any issues?

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Yes I am still that low, one does not simply raise their car

I had to roll my fenders once I got this low.

Specs are 18x9 +30 wrapped with 235/40/18. I'm about 1/4" from maxing the front and 2.6" rear.
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Originally Posted by Undying Dreams
Yes I am still that low, one does not simply raise their car

I had to roll my fenders once I got this low.

Specs are 18x9 +30 wrapped with 235/40/18. I'm about 1/4" from maxing the front and 2.6" rear.
Nice. how's the ride? what do you have your dampers set at? I assume you have camber kit any issues with alignment?
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Rides awesome, front is pretty stiff as of now, the rears are around 24 from soft. I have a rear camber kit, giving me -1.5 and my fronts are natural sitting at -2.0 and -1.5.
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Originally Posted by I Wanna Go Fast
How does the front feel with the stock hats?...btw car looks good
Ok so I just finished re-installing my front TEINS the correct way with the appropriate parts. When these companies suggest that you can use your old stock top hats instead of ordering new ones, then what you will have to assemble from the stocks are ONLY the top hat, its rubber bushings, and one washer. What you need for correct installation for the TEINS are the top hat, its rubber bushings, 3 washers, and its collar to slip through the top hat. Last weekend I assembled my front TEINs with what was given from the stock suspension, assuming that was all I'd need to use. (The rubber bushings seemed worn). The next day I was hearing rattles/pops every bump I hit. It felt awful. I checked to see what was wrong on just one side, and I saw the bushing simply resting on my spring, completely out of the top hat fitting. I went to my local Advanced Auto Parts store and and they had 4 top hat kits in stock. Perfect! So just tonight I was able to re-install the fronts with the necessary parts and now it rides like stock.
I am a little disappointed that TEIN did not include these small, yet essential parts within the shipment. They were only about $45 for all four top hat kits. Why wouldnt they at least say that these needed to be purchased seperately, instead of potentially damaging my entire suspension? Oh well. I'll be installing the rears this weekend hopefully.
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Originally Posted by Tannon
Ok so I just finished re-installing my front TEINS the correct way with the appropriate parts. When these companies suggest that you can use your old stock top hats instead of ordering new ones, then what you will have to assemble from the stocks are ONLY the top hat, its rubber bushings, and one washer. What you need for correct installation for the TEINS are the top hat, its rubber bushings, 3 washers, and its collar to slip through the top hat. Last weekend I assembled my front TEINs with what was given from the stock suspension, assuming that was all I'd need to use. (The rubber bushings seemed worn). The next day I was hearing rattles/pops every bump I hit. It felt awful. I checked to see what was wrong on just one side, and I saw the bushing simply resting on my spring, completely out of the top hat fitting. I went to my local Advanced Auto Parts store and and they had 4 top hat kits in stock. Perfect! So just tonight I was able to re-install the fronts with the necessary parts and now it rides like stock.
I am a little disappointed that TEIN did not include these small, yet essential parts within the shipment. They were only about $45 for all four top hat kits. Why wouldnt they at least say that these needed to be purchased seperately, instead of potentially damaging my entire suspension? Oh well. I'll be installing the rears this weekend hopefully.
Umm.. I just installed my SA's about a week ago reusing my top hats, bushings, etc. The manual DOES show which parts need to be reused. They are marked with asterisks **. This was my first time installing coils and I almost missed it as you did but realized something didn't seem quite right when I was getting the first one assembled.
I can understand why Tein doesn't include all of those parts especially when they have coils for many different types vehicles. But I do think they could maybe do a little better job with their instructions. Glad to hear you got it resolved though.
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