kingkong_dav

read your owners manual carefully where you will see that it is recommended that tl owners shouldn't add bigger wheels to their cars because it will damage the VSA, better known as traction control. be careful with your thoughts on a glossy new wheel, VSA will fail guarantee

murph145

has anyone experienced a failed VSA?? not me that i know of no warning lights are on or anything

jwr0ng626

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^never heard of that prob either

myron

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what guarantees that? hahahaha TL has been around for a while and not a single VSA failed because of it. And TL does come with bigger wheels then 17s. A-spec 18s maybe. THey are bigger then stock, aren't they?

Hi speed

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Same here no issues with larger rims. Did you have a failure? As long as all the tires are the same size there is no issue.

Aman

I don't think you'll have a problem if you upsize your wheels slightly. Maybe if you were considering 26s or something equally ridiculous.

jwr0ng626

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what page did u find this warning?

vtxcraziexboi

i wouldnt be worried about it. people been doing it for years and VSA works on the brakes.

http://www.acura.com/Features.aspx?m...ability_assist

most of the people on the honda accord forum turn it off.

jwr0ng626

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^im not.. im just curious where he found it lol

kingkong_dav

in the middle pages of the owners manual, "modifying your car", around checking fluids or such

Bearcat94

I don't think the issue has to do with bigger rims, per se, but with too much change to the overall diameter versus the stock diameter.

I think the concern is the effect on the wheel speed. Wheel speed sensors are what VSA/TC use to determine if one wheel is spinning faster/slower than another wheel. I would think it would be much bigger issue if you had big differences in overall diameter front versus back.

95% of the people up-sizing to 18", 19" or 20" stay close to the stock diameter.

There is also wheel/size compensation of some sort in the diagnostics screens (through the navi), but I don't know how that works.

dinks07

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^ what he said

CLtotheTL32

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Damn, I guess I've gotta get rid of the A-Specs now.

justnspace

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^go ahead and send em to me.

slammedon19''

i say who? isay what? witch way did he go gorge

CLtotheTL32

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For a small fee.

justnspace

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Of only $19.99

CLtotheTL32

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Fixed.

You wouldn't want them anyways, you're fancy-schmancy sticky tires won't fit.

Horditruck

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^ haha funny stuff

I hate cars

As long as all are the same diameter, you could run 30" rims and it wouldn't damage anything. It can make VSA less effective but won't damage it. I have a feeling a bbk probably has a worse effect than bigger rims.

KN_TL

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Can you explain what would be damaged?

Jesstzn

I think the OP is interperating it wrong. It won't "damage" the VSA it will create false actions by the VSA if ALL the wheels/tires aren't the same rolling diameter.

In other words having 4 tires that are oversizes .. eg 265s then get a flat and throw on the spare thats a 235 it might make the VSA act up.

I hate cars

Exactly. Throw on that smaller spare and it thinks the tire is spinning. Go around a corner too hard and when it applies brake force to that wheel to straighten the car out, it will get more brake torque than the other tires. ABS action might not work as well. The ECU will probably want to back completely off of the other wheels since they're spinning slower than the smaller one.

Your biggest initial enemy would be traction control. It's like when I first dynoed my car and left the TC on by accident.

CubanLynx84

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You forgot the $19.95 S&H charge there buddy

KN_TL

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I understood how VSA works, I just wondered if there was something I was missing.