Progress RSB vs TL Acura Sway Bar Yes, No?
08-05-2010, 03:17 PM
#1
Progress RSB vs TL Acura Sway Bar Yes, No?
Ok guys I just made the suspension mod using TEIN H Techs. Very happy with the drop. But now the question, The Progress RSB is about $150 shipped (EBay). I just saw this on Hondaacuraplanet. For 36 bucks is this the deal of the century or should I cough up the xtra for the Progress???? WDYT???
Acura TL Sway Bar Retrofit Kit
Part Number:
TLSWAY
Price:
$36.32
Shipping Weight:
8.20 lbs
04-07 Acura TL 6MT 20mm rear sway bar kit. Kit includes 52300SEPA11 (bar) 52306SEPA11 (Bushings, qty 2) 52308S3MA00 (Brackets, qty 2)
Acura TL Sway Bar Retrofit Kit
Part Number:
TLSWAY
Price:
$36.32
Shipping Weight:
8.20 lbs
04-07 Acura TL 6MT 20mm rear sway bar kit. Kit includes 52300SEPA11 (bar) 52306SEPA11 (Bushings, qty 2) 52308S3MA00 (Brackets, qty 2)
08-05-2010, 03:35 PM
#2
-------Tim-------
^ Well it is a NO brainer! Progress, 1. Because it is larger in diameter, 2. It is adjustable! Check out our vendors on here, I am sure you can get it for around 140 if not cheaper. If you search progress rear swaybar, you will be able to better confirm my suggestion for yourself.
08-05-2010, 03:50 PM
#3
^ Well it is a NO brainer! Progress, 1. Because it is larger in diameter, 2. It is adjustable! Check out our vendors on here, I am sure you can get it for around 140 if not cheaper. If you search progress rear swaybar, you will be able to better confirm my suggestion for yourself.
08-05-2010, 09:58 PM
#5
I went with the $35 option, $45 shipped, and couldn't be happier!
The progress is a better bar, no doubt, but bang for the buck I think the type s manual bar is hard to beat. It made a noticeable difference right away.
The progress is a better bar, no doubt, but bang for the buck I think the type s manual bar is hard to beat. It made a noticeable difference right away.
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08-05-2010, 11:20 PM
#6
Team Owner
With your stock small 5at front bar, the 20mm is not a bad choice. I'm not going to say it's better or worse but at least you're keeping your handling balance somewhat sane. The large rear bar with the stock 5at front bar can cause it to be a little tail happy in some scenarios.
08-05-2010, 11:21 PM
#7
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I've had the Progress RSB on my '05 Auto for a few years on Stiff setting. The car did handle much flatter with just the rear bar upgrade; however, at the limit, it would have a tendency to oversteer(ass end come around). Last month, I decided to install the TL-S 27mm solid FSB to compliment my progress bar. I couldn't be happier. The TL-S FSB made just as much of a difference that I initially noticed when I installed the Progress RSB a few years ago. Now the car has a pretty neutral balance around turns and it's predictable and easy at the limits. The sensation of lifting from my seat around hard corners is now gone. If I feel the car is starting to understeer, I let off the gas a little. If I oversteer, I give it some gas. There's no doubt that the TL-S FSB reduced front end sway quite significantly. Now the only challenge I have is easing slowly onto gas mid turn instead of mashing it as the stiff TL-S bar is causing the inside front tire to lift off the pavement if I get a little too eager. With the stock TL FSB, this was not an issue.
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08-06-2010, 11:14 AM
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If you do decide to get the Progress bar you don't need to get it from ebay. We have it on sale:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-225595.aspx
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08-06-2010, 12:02 PM
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If you do decide to get the Progress bar you don't need to get it from ebay. We have it on sale:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-225595.aspx
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-225595.aspx
And the price was excellent!!!
08-06-2010, 12:10 PM
#10
If you're not planning on upgrading to a TL-S Front Sway bar, than the TL-S Rear sway bar would be a perfect upgrade. The 04-08 TL Base Auto Front Sway bars are 25-27mm hallow, compared to the TL-S 27.2mm solid front sway bar; therefore, running a Progress Rear bar on stiff setting does cause oversteer on a base TL. Using a Solid 20mm TL-S rear bar should give the base TL a nice balance.
I've had the Progress RSB on my '05 Auto for a few years on Stiff setting. The car did handle much flatter with just the rear bar upgrade; however, at the limit, it would have a tendency to oversteer(ass end come around). Last month, I decided to install the TL-S 27mm solid FSB to compliment my progress bar. I couldn't be happier. The TL-S FSB made just as much of a difference that I initially noticed when I installed the Progress RSB a few years ago. Now the car has a pretty neutral balance around turns and it's predictable and easy at the limits. The sensation of lifting from my seat around hard corners is now gone. If I feel the car is starting to understeer, I let off the gas a little. If I oversteer, I give it some gas. There's no doubt that the TL-S FSB reduced front end sway quite significantly. Now the only challenge I have is easing slowly onto gas mid turn instead of mashing it as the stiff TL-S bar is causing the inside front tire to lift off the pavement if I get a little too eager. With the stock TL FSB, this was not an issue.
I've had the Progress RSB on my '05 Auto for a few years on Stiff setting. The car did handle much flatter with just the rear bar upgrade; however, at the limit, it would have a tendency to oversteer(ass end come around). Last month, I decided to install the TL-S 27mm solid FSB to compliment my progress bar. I couldn't be happier. The TL-S FSB made just as much of a difference that I initially noticed when I installed the Progress RSB a few years ago. Now the car has a pretty neutral balance around turns and it's predictable and easy at the limits. The sensation of lifting from my seat around hard corners is now gone. If I feel the car is starting to understeer, I let off the gas a little. If I oversteer, I give it some gas. There's no doubt that the TL-S FSB reduced front end sway quite significantly. Now the only challenge I have is easing slowly onto gas mid turn instead of mashing it as the stiff TL-S bar is causing the inside front tire to lift off the pavement if I get a little too eager. With the stock TL FSB, this was not an issue.
02-12-2011, 10:03 AM
#12
Hey, was wondering, IHC or anyone else...since this compliance bushing is such a failure point on this car...are we adding more stress to it by putting the Progress rear sway?
I thought of this because I thought it was probably a little torn earlier on...but a few months ago I switched the sway bar from street to track...had it like that and one day when it was in the 40's...I was going around a curve and I could swear I actually felt it fail and rip more from that point on when going around curves the front of the car would kinda dance. It was scary. My solution was to drop back to street setting and it got better...but was still there till now that I changed out the compliance bushing.
Just a thought...if it does cause worse damage, figured I'd leave mine set on street from now on and warn people about it!
Thank you!
I thought of this because I thought it was probably a little torn earlier on...but a few months ago I switched the sway bar from street to track...had it like that and one day when it was in the 40's...I was going around a curve and I could swear I actually felt it fail and rip more from that point on when going around curves the front of the car would kinda dance. It was scary. My solution was to drop back to street setting and it got better...but was still there till now that I changed out the compliance bushing.
Just a thought...if it does cause worse damage, figured I'd leave mine set on street from now on and warn people about it!
Thank you!
02-12-2011, 12:07 PM
#13
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Hey, was wondering, IHC or anyone else...since this compliance bushing is such a failure point on this car...are we adding more stress to it by putting the Progress rear sway?
I thought of this because I thought it was probably a little torn earlier on...but a few months ago I switched the sway bar from street to track...had it like that and one day when it was in the 40's...I was going around a curve and I could swear I actually felt it fail and rip more from that point on when going around curves the front of the car would kinda dance. It was scary. My solution was to drop back to street setting and it got better...but was still there till now that I changed out the compliance bushing.
Just a thought...if it does cause worse damage, figured I'd leave mine set on street from now on and warn people about it!
Thank you!
I thought of this because I thought it was probably a little torn earlier on...but a few months ago I switched the sway bar from street to track...had it like that and one day when it was in the 40's...I was going around a curve and I could swear I actually felt it fail and rip more from that point on when going around curves the front of the car would kinda dance. It was scary. My solution was to drop back to street setting and it got better...but was still there till now that I changed out the compliance bushing.
Just a thought...if it does cause worse damage, figured I'd leave mine set on street from now on and warn people about it!
Thank you!
02-12-2011, 12:27 PM
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Are you talking about the compliance bushing - like the failures on fronts? Or are you talking about the sway bar mounting bracket weld on the rear?
02-12-2011, 12:30 PM
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Bearcat: talking about the front compliance bushing failure...the one that has a huge thread on it.
IHC, thanks for the response! So, with front 2004 6MT sway bar it's safe to say that the Progress RSB set on STREET would create a more balanced feeling, right?
IHC, thanks for the response! So, with front 2004 6MT sway bar it's safe to say that the Progress RSB set on STREET would create a more balanced feeling, right?
02-12-2011, 12:50 PM
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02-13-2011, 05:37 PM
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The swaybar is a spring that links the left and right side of the suspension together. So if you hit a bump with both left and right tires evenly, the ride is unchanged. If you hit a bump with only one side, it's slightly firmer. In some situations the ride quality is actually improved because there's not as much body motion over bumps and sometimes it's slightly firmer. Overall ride quality is very close to stock.
02-14-2011, 08:41 AM
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gonna hop in this thread for a minute...
with a type-s FSB, and a progress RSB...what setting should i have the progress set to? and if there is no "right answer" i understand, just thought i'd ask.
car will be lowered approx 2" on coilovers.
thoughts? IHC?
with a type-s FSB, and a progress RSB...what setting should i have the progress set to? and if there is no "right answer" i understand, just thought i'd ask.
car will be lowered approx 2" on coilovers.
thoughts? IHC?
02-14-2011, 09:06 AM
#22
From what I've read elsewhere (probably FROM IHC)...the progress RSB set to "track" will be nicely balanced with a stiffer FSB, like the type s. With stock FSB, you're better off leaving it at the "street" setting.
It was nice on track but a little scary on curves, as mentioned...seemed to oversteer a bit and felt unpredictable. Street feels tight, but not overdone. No more of that annoying dip in the ride before it takes off after a sharp 90 degree turn.
J.
It was nice on track but a little scary on curves, as mentioned...seemed to oversteer a bit and felt unpredictable. Street feels tight, but not overdone. No more of that annoying dip in the ride before it takes off after a sharp 90 degree turn.
J.
02-14-2011, 09:17 AM
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^very cool...thanks jeremy! 
i'm sure i'll end up playing around with it until i get a feel for what i like anyway.
i'm sure i'll end up playing around with it until i get a feel for what i like anyway.
02-14-2011, 09:37 AM
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I've had mine set to stiff/firm since install (3 years). Although I'm not sure how much the RSB setting played a role, when I tracked the car I did spin it.
The real cause was an abrupt throttle lift when I had a lot of push in a corner. What surprised me though was how fast it swapped ends - it was just gone. Not sure how much the RSB setting played a role (if much at all) in how abruptly oversteer occured, but I'd defineltly recommend more care with the throttle if you're set stiff.
I had experienced the same thing in the 2G, but it was more gradual.
FWIW - I've never had a problem on the street.
Also, you can set one side to "stiff" and the other to "soft" for a medium setting.
The real cause was an abrupt throttle lift when I had a lot of push in a corner. What surprised me though was how fast it swapped ends - it was just gone. Not sure how much the RSB setting played a role (if much at all) in how abruptly oversteer occured, but I'd defineltly recommend more care with the throttle if you're set stiff.
I had experienced the same thing in the 2G, but it was more gradual.
FWIW - I've never had a problem on the street.
Also, you can set one side to "stiff" and the other to "soft" for a medium setting.
02-14-2011, 09:47 AM
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^interesting.
what would be the benefit of having each side set to a diff setting?
all in all, you think the stiff setting is best when paired with the type-s fsb?
this is all for normal street driving/no track use. i just want the ability to take corners/on-off ramps quicker and feel more planted to the ground during turns.
what would be the benefit of having each side set to a diff setting?
all in all, you think the stiff setting is best when paired with the type-s fsb?
this is all for normal street driving/no track use. i just want the ability to take corners/on-off ramps quicker and feel more planted to the ground during turns.
02-14-2011, 10:09 AM
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^interesting.
what would be the benefit of having each side set to a diff setting?
all in all, you think the stiff setting is best when paired with the type-s fsb?
this is all for normal street driving/no track use. i just want the ability to take corners/on-off ramps quicker and feel more planted to the ground during turns.
what would be the benefit of having each side set to a diff setting?
all in all, you think the stiff setting is best when paired with the type-s fsb?
this is all for normal street driving/no track use. i just want the ability to take corners/on-off ramps quicker and feel more planted to the ground during turns.
02-14-2011, 10:23 AM
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^interesting.
what would be the benefit of having each side set to a diff setting?
all in all, you think the stiff setting is best when paired with the type-s fsb?
this is all for normal street driving/no track use. i just want the ability to take corners/on-off ramps quicker and feel more planted to the ground during turns.
what would be the benefit of having each side set to a diff setting?
all in all, you think the stiff setting is best when paired with the type-s fsb?
this is all for normal street driving/no track use. i just want the ability to take corners/on-off ramps quicker and feel more planted to the ground during turns.
For me it's totally fine for street - not little old-lady street, but moderatly fun street. I did have it for a couple of Auto-X's as well, with no issues.
The RSB setting are really just making the bar a little longer (softer) or a little shorter (stiffer). You actually have a choice of 3 lengths - longest (the "soft/street" setting"), shortest (the "firm/track" setting) and in between if neither of those quite suit you.
IOW - if you're not sure you want it as stiff as possible or as soft as possible, you get a middle choice.
02-14-2011, 10:28 AM
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^thanks guys, i'll do stiff setting and see how i like it. 
i appreciate the input here.
i appreciate the input here.
02-14-2011, 05:05 PM
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Is the Progress RSB fairly easy to install? Also, I read something about upgrading the endlinks to Moog, is that recommended/useful? They do run around $50 so it's cheap.
02-14-2011, 06:21 PM
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It's harder to wiggle it in and out than anything else.
To get the End-link bolts off, you have to hold 'em with a hex wrench in the bolt ends. (or cut 'em off with a sawz-all if you're going to replace them.
To get the End-link bolts off, you have to hold 'em with a hex wrench in the bolt ends. (or cut 'em off with a sawz-all if you're going to replace them.
02-14-2011, 06:24 PM
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02-15-2011, 04:46 PM
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Justnspace, thanks for the pics bro. I'm thinking of getting this for my type s and set it to soft and see how it feels. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to install.
