Sondinh

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Here is my problem, I have a stock 04 Acura TL, and I want to go with 20 in. wheels. I heard that having 20 in. wheel will rub. Is it true that the 20 in. wheels won't rub if I leave my suspension stock. Also is it true that having 20 in. wheels with the inproper tires will cause the ABS to malfunction and the inaccurate speed in the speedometer? I really want to go with 20 in. wheels, but I want to know the pros and cons about having 20 in. wheels. Please anyone out there with 20 in. wheels with stock suspension, please advise me in buying the proper tire size that will not cause my ABS to malfunction and the speed to be accurate with the speedometer. Thank you so much!!

pizz419

i run a set of 225-35-20's....on stock suspension. i do not know the offset of the wheels but no rubbing unless i have a car full of people..then minor rub in the back. nothing bad just when i hit a good sized bump. but i also have a few hundred pounds of stereo equipment in the trunk. but im not sure if there is much difference in the 2 and 3rd generation acuras. i have an 02 tl-s hope this helps

HK404yoAzz

Here is a few tips to your questions. I have a 07 TLS. I put 235/35/20 on. The rear fenders come from the dealer half rolled. I had the rim place roll them all the way. No issues what so ever on rubbing. After a while I actually lowered my car on the eibach pro-kit and I love the height and also no rubbing even with 5 full size adults in my car.

As for the brakes, I have not noticed any issues. For the speedomoter I'm thinking it might be a little slow but havent got to really test it on a radar at all. One thing I did notice because of a heavier wheel is that I think my average mpg might go down a little bit but it reall matters on how you drive. Other than that I think everything is ok.

ndabunka

I think we all appreciate your attempt to be helpful but you left out the MAJOR detail that allows/permits your (specific) setup to not rub, etc. Specifically, the MAJOR factor of OFFSET. If you are a 45 offset (i.e. MFG equivalent), then it should be no surprise that you don't rub. So, the 64 thousand dollar question is.... What is your offset on this particular setup?

20 inch wheels WILL work on the TL and TL-S's. You just need to pay very close attention to the details (offsets, size and MFG or tires, etc)

HK404yoAzz

True. And my apologies for not having that spec. I forgot to ask. As long as it clearded my brembos without any spacers I really didnt care.

sunny201

I have 20x8.5 with 245/30/20 tires and theres no rubbing at all. Im still on stock height. They are a +38 offset. Even with 5 people in the car, theres no rubbing at all.

Twenties

No rubbing. Make sure you test fit the wheel and tire. Make sure you run 35 series tires to get a smoother and more solid ride.

Sondinh

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Sorry to ask this stupid question, but I am new to this. What are offset? What should be my offset if I decide to run on 245/30/20 tires? Will this tire be meaty enough to protect my rims? Also what tire should I get then to get that smooth ride? Thanks!

enigmaos

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wheels have offset. tires don't. here is more info on offset: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101

as for tire width (to protect the wheels), how wide are the wheels (front and rear) - 20x8, 20x8.5 20x9, etc. it depends on the wheels. but here is some info: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=149

245 is normally for 8-9" wide wheels, but they can be used for wider or narrower wheels; however, for 20s, you might need a smaller ratio/sidewall.

here is a link to how to read tires (sidewall markings): http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=33

n20andy

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...5&page=1&pp=25

sunny201

I dont think 20s and low profile tires should be in the same sentence

ndabunka

LOL! Smooth ride AND 20's? Fella, your living in a fantasy world. That simply don't exist. Also, with regards to "meaty enough" question... The answer is NO. No tire on a 20-inch rim will be "meaty enough" to protect ANYTHING. There simply isn't enough room under there for 20's AND protection. You gotta pick, one or the other.

Smooth ride = stock 17's (with better quality tires than the OEMs)

sunny201

With 20s you should start practicing dodging the potholes already, and feeling every bump on the road

Twenties

I disagree somewhat. I have a relatively smooth and comfortable ride.

I recommend 245/35-20, which is the thickest tire (a relatively meaty tire) that will give the most protection for a 20-inch wheel on a TL. The proper wheel offset is approx. 45. The proper wheel width is 8 to 9 inches.

You still have to avoid bad roads and potholes; I live in an area with relatively smooth roads.

sunny201

Then again I disagree with that because I live in Jersey where you cant go a 1/4 mile without seeing a pothole. I didnt check to see where the op lives.

enigmaos

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yeah, it depends on the condition of the roads in your area and where you drive the most.

ndabunka

Hmm, everyone else that tried the 35's on 20's had problems with any drop at all. Are you still stock heigth?

Sondinh

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Is it true that 245-35-20 is the best tire size that will be really safe for the wheels? Also what offset should I get if I want to buy wheels with 20 X 8.5? Is 245-35-20 the meatiest tire size you can go on 20 in. wheels?

Twenties

Yes, stock height.

Twenties

+- 45 offset.

ndabunka

Based on twenties response, the answer appears to be "Yes, you can go with that size" but you will not be able to drop it at all. Additionally, you must now find a 20 that comes in a +45 offset. Not many if I recall are available in that offset.

sunny201

Sondinh you have 6MT or 5AT? That makes a big difference in our cars because of the Brembos.

Sondinh

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I have a 5 AT, so what offset should I get then if I'm going to leave it at stock height?

Sondinh

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It is a 2004 Acura TL

sunny201

My wheels are +38 offset and they are perfectly fine. What I did when I was first looking into rims was PMing all of the people I saw with 20s and asked them what offset and everything they were running.

skyy406

I have 20's on my new TL'S... No issues... I think they are 20x8.5 ... i am not sure on the tire width or height tho... rides real nice thoigh.

Sondinh

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Hey there, Sunny201 if your offet is +38 then wat should my offset be if my car is a 2004 Acura TL with 20 X 8.5 and with tire size 245-35-20? Thanks!

sunny201

The same offset should work fine. Where you plannin on getting them from? If its a rim shop then they should be able to tell you, if its the internet, then +38 should be fine.

CartGreg

I put 20" rims on my car last week and have no rubbing. The only noticable downside to my new wheels are the car being a little slower. Now I feel like I need to add the cold air intake to compensate. My rims are: Motegi US7, 20" x 7.5" w/ a 42 off set.

SoCalTLtypeS

Can you please post some pics? thanks

SoCalTLtypeS

If you don't mind me asking what did you pay for those?

CartGreg

SoCal,
I havnt figured out to post pictures on here yet. I paid $2,400.00 w/ tires, balance, and installation. What do you think?

lilnate

i had 20x8.5 with 225/35/20 on my 02 acura cl type s, and they sat perfectly. 20x9 wheels will sit slightly wide on the 04's & better.

SoCalTLtypeS

I went to the Motegi site to get a close look at them and the wheel looks great, As far as the price I'm not sure, since I haven't shopped around for those wheels. When you figure out how to post (use photo bucket) I'd like to see them on your ride.

Sondinh

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Hey there Twenties, can u please post pics of your 245-35-20 tires. As many as possible. I just want to see how it looks. If I decide to get these tires what offset should I run on if I have a 04 TL with the A-spec bodykit? Thanx!

Twenties

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123491

The link above is my original thread with pics.

I also posted pics in the Picture Gallery and in the thread on 2o-inch wheel owners.

If you run these tires (245/35) you may have to roll your fenders if the offset sticks out too much...and if you do a hard u-turn you may feel minor touching....and if you load up 5 people and hit a hard bump while flooring it and turning then you will feel it rub a little.

But for the most part, 90% of the time, the wheels and tires will clear everything and you will never know you have an oversize wheel/tire on. To me, those infrequent occurrences are worth having a thicker tire that rides smoother and protects your wheels from easy damage. Your alternative is to get a 30 series (instead of 35 series tire) but I wouldn't do that because I ran 30-series on my last car and they are so thin and vulnerable. Hope this helps.

I've been told the offset you want is 45 (factory wheel's offset). I think you can go up or down about 5-10 (35-55) as a parameter but the farther you go away from 45 the more likely to rub the fender (outside) or the suspension parts (inside).

By the way, I just ordered a new set of 245/35-20 Nitto Ivon tires to be installed tomorrow. Anybody have any experience with these??

Sondinh

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Let say I do decide to go with 245-35-20, what offset should I go with so that I don't have to roll the fenders. Another situation is between two different tires size, which tire size should I go with that will prevent my car from rubbing at stock height. Also which one will give me that protection and the smooth ride? Is it 24-30-20 or 255-30-20 ? Also do I have to roll the fenders with either of these tire sizeand what offset should I go with either of these tire size? (20 X 8.5) THANX!

lilnate

I ride on NItto Neo Gen 225-35-20, they are really good. Holds tight, looks good, tread wear lasts. Nitto is the way to go if you are looking for extensive use. Just keep rotating them every 5k miles. I ride the streets a lot & dallas roads are terrible, and they stand strong hitting potholes, etc. They wrap around Giovanna Sabinas, looks nice.