mrlal8

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yeah you guys are right thanks for the input

mrlal8

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So after making a homedepot trip and buying an 8 foot block of wood for 5 bux (had it cut to 4 pieces each 2 feet) , I went back to firestone today and asked the guys if they would try again. All the workers are in their mid 20's so they did not give a shit about how low my car was. The owner (quite old) even came out and said good job with the car it doesnt look riced out haha. They aligned my car and said the camber is impossible to adjust without a camber kit but its ok tho because its the same on both sides.

Btw I just had my alignment done 2 months ago and I was surprised my alignment was THIS bad after the drop. I drove about 300 miles before the actual alignment and i shoudve probably done it earlier.

Heres the before pic


to the suspension experts do you think i need to get camber kits?
Heres after the alignment

TLDude876

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Yes you'll need a camber kit with drop you have

SharksBreath

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yeah brother, -3 in the rear and -2 in the front is a bit much...your tires will def show some wear sooner than you want. if it were me, i would get a camber kit. up to you tho.

i have mine at -1.5 all around and it's a nice balance.

jwr0ng626

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ur shop couldnt completely zero out ur toe?

mrlal8

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It is zero'd out the comp just shuffles that one number from .01 to 0 and when they did a snapshot it just happnd to be 0.01. I went to firestone ...1 time payment of 150 and i have unlimited alignments...can go once a month if I want to. I will be getting a camber kit for the rear in 2 weeks so I'll get another alignment at that time and get everything perfect.

mrlal8

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having coilovers is like an addiction....Im doing my best to stop myself from going lower but i just keep wanting to

I hate cars

You guys should be looking at a good alignment shop, not one that offers a ton of alignments. With a good alignment you can go many years between alignments. With this cheap stuff you need lots of alignments because chances are they are never done completely right. You will know what I mean once you find the right place.

I hate cars

Yep, that's the way to do it. Once you get both front wheels on the curb you can probably crank the wheel all the way over and not have to go back and forth.

mrlal8

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yeah i know what you mean. I went to this one because I am still not sure of what height I will leave my car at. Also I am on stockies right now and will probably get a new set of rims in a month or so. Another factor was that I dropped so much money this month I could not get the camber kit. So after I add all that stuff and adjust my height a few more times I will need another alignment. The way I look at it is a regular alignment costs about 90 bux and since I have no idea on what height I want to go with this was the best option for me to opt for multiple alignments.

I hate cars

That's true, with your adjustable height the free alignments is perfect. Make sure to post back if you can make it up the driveway without scraping.

djflex167

maybe if he puts bigger wheels will raise the car a little from the ground and therefore he might not scrape as bad this time!!

dc5k20z1

quick question, i may have over looked but where did you buy the coils?

stiffdogg06

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How did the block of wood at the beginning of the ramps help ya?

mrlal8

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Thank you got it easily up the ramp at firestone

mrlal8

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You sir are a fucking genius lol
I approached the driveway as I would a parallel parking job.....I dont scrape at all now it's very simple to get up the driveway...thank you

If I can get up this driveway I can get up any driveway

I'm also raising my car in the rear because the back settled in way more than I expected

mrlal8

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I raised the car today a little bit. It was tucking way too much in the rear when I had people sitting in the back seat. Sorta looked "broken".

I need some spacers anyone know a good place to get them from? They are like 120 from ebay for each set. Do i really want to drop $240 on spacers?

This is how the car sits now

03tLsNBP

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damn i liked it better before. the rear looks a little too high now.

you can get spacers here. there are always some for sale in the black market.

djmanu

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looks perfect now

i just dont like tucking though, just my

loc05tl

i was thinkin about getting these HT type 1 also. But i didnt know if camber kit is needed. I'm planning to drop around 2 inches . guess im gonn have to spend extra for camber kits then ?

jwr0ng626

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camber kits are a must for lowering 2+ inches...

I would pass on the spacers and just save for wheels

djflex167

thats why there is a old saying "TO EACH, THEIR OWN" with that said, i think it looks good the way is sitting but if it was my car i would raise the front half of inch if possible!! lol

stiffdogg06

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Ichiba Spacers

07tl-s6spd

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your new height is perfect imo...no need to go any lower

stiffdogg06

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As long as there is no wheel gap, I'm happy.

One thing I do hate is uneven height. The front needs to be raised to be even with the rear or vice versa.

One question though, when you replaced the rear side markers with Type S markers, did you have do anything with the LED's in there? Or was it really just a plug and play type of deal?

mrlal8

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Will look thanks

Bring you jack stand after work lolll we need to lower the back a bit

I will get a camber kit later...its $160 shipped from Heel Toe for the rear

Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense to drop 240 on spacers...


I know what you are saying its uneven haha but i dont think i can mentally get myself to go any higher


I thought that at first too but i keep looking at this pic on my phone and think its too uneven

Yea I will drop the rear 0.25 inches that should even everything out if it does I want only the very top of the rear wheel to maybe tuck a little to even the drop out. I dont mind the tuck in the front because it rests at the very top of the wheel and tucks slightly and even when i have a front passenger it does not dip anymore. However, the rear is another story...even with one passenger in the car it dips and tucks a good 0.5 inch

The Type s sidemarkers are plug and play it will be by far the easiest thing you change out. Pull the liner back and feel with you hands around the sidemarker for the 2 tabs n just click them and push out. Disconnect the sidemarkers. Then connect your type s sidemarkers the same way the old ones were and just push sidemarker in and it will click.

mrlal8

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QUiCK question to all you guys that have HT spec/ Function and form coilovers.
Are the wrenches they provide even necessary? The guy thats been adjusting my coils just uses his hands and does it. I watch him but I have never actually tried it myself. Today or tomorrow I will be dropping the rear of the car slightly by myself.

I will use this video for reference so you guys understand what my question is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLRdo8atXbM

To lower my car do I just loosen that bottom "ring" and turn the red portion of coilover clockwise "to the right". I do not see the need to use any other tool but my hands. To loosen the RING first do i turn the ring counterclockwise (to the left). After that my understand is turning the red portion of coilover clockwise (to the right) just closes the gap and lowers the car and after I achieve the amount of drop I then just tighten the RING and slap the wheel back on and then im done.

jwr0ng626

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you can use a hammer and screwdriver to knock the ring loose... it shouldnt be easy enough to loosen by hand.

You wont be able to spin the bottom part because itll be attached to the car... so spin the THREADED part clockwise to lower and counter to raise

then spin the locking ring till u cant by hand anymore, and use screwdriver + hammer and bang it to make sure its tight

ALSO - make sure u have ur measuring tap handy to double check ur work on both sides

mrlal8

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Final drop 2 inches all around. I think this is the best drop without spacers. I def need to get new rims asap. Car is real dirty needs a wash badly

Royik1157

you finally dropped it, looks sick bro! i have H&R race springs, but i havent put them on yet. cant wait to go low lol.

mrlal8

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im dropping it more tomorrow lol
0.25 more in the front and 0.5 in the rear

bLaCk iCe

yo the 2 inch drop is nice man,....dont go any lower..

TLDude876

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Did you experience your drivers side having a lower drop than your passenger side? I just installed these and measured them carefully and my driver side tends to sag a bit lower.

mrlal8

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The driver side weighs more than the passenger side and yes I did notice the same thing when i measured it out. Its not apparent to the other people tho, only you will realize it because you used a tape measurer and its your car. Also the difference is less than 1/8 of an inch or less so its not visible at all. I am real picky tho so i want everything to be perfect. when i raised my car I made the drivers side about a little less than 0.25 inches higher according to my weight (im about 150 IB) lol so when i sit in the car everythings perfect.

TLDude876

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And to adjust the height, we have to remove that lower mount bolt in the rear and both fork bolts in the front correct?

mrlal8

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My camber kit just came in from excelerate (I ordered it at 3 pm yesterday and it came in atr 430 pm today). I am going to get it installed tomorrow and since the tires will be off I might as well hopefully make this my last adjustment. Since so many people think the front sits perfectly as it is ....I am just going to drop the rear. I do not know if you should drop it 0.5 inches or 0.25 inches.

This is how my car sits right now notice the rear is higher than the front. What do yo u guys think 0.5 inch or 0.25 inch more drop in the rear to balance the car?


BTW this is my ideal drop lol but i dont know if jersey can handle it. Whoevers car this is you did a good job with the drop i never knew getting the perfect drop was so annoying


now that you look at that pic do you think my front needs to be dropped more? hahah i hate coilovers

jwr0ng626

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ur drop doesnt look even in the 1st pic in post #109 lol

and damn if u want the type S drop u gotta slam the front and rear more...

I would lower front .5 and rear .25 but it looks like ur tucking badly in one of the pics alrdy lol

mrlal8

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ignore post 109 im on a slope and its a terrible pic lol
judge from these pics and let me know how much lower i should go
it snowed and rained in jersey today...wtf late march and snow...so i didnt get the camber kit installed or adjust the height

heres the pics some of em are repeats but judge from these how much more of a drop i need for an EVEN drop.






i never remove the bolts just loosen the ring and work with it from there counterclockwise to go up and clockwise to down

mrlal8

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0.25 both front and back sound good?

bLaCk iCe

Dame i am lovieng that type-s drop...