handy911

I have a 2006 Auto TL with 36K miles on it. I think it's about time to change the tires.

Thinking about Continental DWS or Yokohama Advan S4. (all season for me)

Please share when you replaced the first original tires (I have Bridgestone Turanza), and with which tires? Thanks!

nj2pa2nc

Replaced the OEM Michelin tires on my 06 tsx at 74,000. (thread was at 4/32) with Yokohama Avids V4s tires-hate them- noisy, lose traction on wet roads and gas mileage went down. My car now has 96,000+ miles

mcmanut

I replaced the OEMs at 87k on my 2008 TLS. I have the Cont.DWS now and like them very much.

Will Y.

The OEM Michelin MXM4s were replaced @48k miles-- they still had another 10K left before getting near the wear bars, but were no longer as sticky as I would have liked.

They were replaced with the Advan S4s, which now have about 7K miles on them. The Advans have more dry traction than the MXM4s after both are broken in, and the Advans seemed more predictable at the limit. The Advans seem slightly noisier on concrete surfaces and quieter on asphalt than the MXM4s; I didn't notice any difference in steering response, gas mileage or wet traction.

The other tires I considered were the Bridgestone Pole Position 960, Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and Pilot Sport PS2 (summer tire in SoCal ).

handy911

Ha ha, I should probably get summer tires too. But, I really don't want to spend much. Those are great tires, but pretty pricey. I was considering Sumitomo HTRZ III.

On a side note, the Turanza EL42 (original tires) are really that bad? I only got 36K, may be another 1000, but that's it. Anybody else run on Turanza EL42? The reviews are obvioulsy really bad.

Don1

My 2006 TL Nav has 92,000 Km (57K miles) on the OEM Michelin tires. I will need new ones sometime this year if I don't trade the car. Will be looking for a tire that is quieter and maybe a bit less harsh on rough surfaces. I'm having a real problem finding any 2010 that I like better than my '06 TL.

pimpin-tl

Did I hear that right?! 87k on a 08 TL Type-S already?!?! Dang!

mcmanut

That is correct. I just turned 97k on the 08 TL Type S

pimpin-tl

Umm 87 or 97? Your stories keep changing.

subinf

19k or something. Shredded on the highway. Piece of shit tires

mcmanut

The OEM tires were replaced at 87K. I am about to turn 97k on the car know.

Jaco

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67k on the POS Bridgestone el42s, DWS's on now. I think this forum is the reason why the DWS's have been selling so well. We all deserve a reward.

732

I changed out two fronts from flats early on, but got 63.5k out of a pair of the Michelins. Picked up some Falkens that are better in rain, but much worse in snow.

Blakestock

I had the Bridgestones on my 2004 TL and replaced them for a set of Yokohama Advan S4 and like them a lot. The stock tires lasted for about 45k miles and I've put about 15k on these so far.

Personally I think the traction is much better and I can't really tell much of a difference when the roads are wet, and they are fairly quiet too.

Bender

Maybe about 35,000 but they were not in any shape to really drive on them in the rain or on the highway.

gdcwatt

The Advan S4 is NOT an all season tire. While I think the rubber compound is just wrong, it may be that it's wrong for cooler climates, from some of the comments I see on tirerack.com. Perhaps the summer rain in Toronto isn't as hot as rain in other places, and maybe I'm just not getting enough heat into the tires in the dry...

VSA on or off, the S4's don't work in any depth of snow, for starting, stopping (ha, ha), climbing hills, or turning. Wet traction for starting, stopping, and cornering might have been OK, but quickly deteriorated, although hydroplane resistance was excellent until a uniform 5/32 (50%) of tread depth.

Hookup for quick starts in the dry wasn't what I'd hoped for, but I can definately feel more body lean in corners, so I'd say they have more grip than the MXM4's. The S4's have worn well, but I'm junking then with 5/32" of tread left; I might try to find a track day first, though - if it's going to be dry. I thought turn-in was slow, in the dry, but more pressure (38F:36R) helps, at the expense of ride comfort.

Note that the weight of a 225/50-17 Advan S4 is about two lbs heavier than the same size Continental Extreme Contact DWS (about 26lbs vs 24lbs); tirerack.com appears to have an incorrect tire weight for this size (22lbs), if you compare that info with Continental's website (24lbs).

I've already decided on the DWS, and am just waiting for the spring. We drive a lot, and the S4 is just such a gamble for a temperate climate. The S4 also costs a third more than the DWS.