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#483
A J35A8 EG civic is in
I lowered the bottom part as much as possible. Then I put them on. Then I started lowering the top part and the spring was movable up and down just a tad bit (so barely any preload like you said) and then left it there. I want to go lower but am waiting for the suspension to settle in. Anyone have an idea of how long it takes to settle in?
#485
2014 Jeep SRT
The spring preload should be snug without any play. When you say "barely any preload" it almost sounds like you have the springs loose between the perches, which is not what you want.
#486
A J35A8 EG civic is in
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#487
Racer
Maybe it's just me, but in my business it would be phone, email, fax, carrier pigeon, smike signals, semafore until I tracked someone down to yell at for a fuck up of this magnitude.
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#490
big bad bust
ok here is what i am talking about if you see one coil has a cut all the way around in the middle and the other one is just one piece....ill tell ya what though i am def not modifying or taking apart my brand new coilovers if nothing can be done a full refund is in order..
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#491
I think we can all calm down a bit. There's talk of being cheated and some overreaction here. If we disappeared into the night or you didn't get a coilover then you would be cheated. That is not occurring. We will get the manufacturer to resolve the issue. I am waiting for a solution.
For those of you want an immediate solution it has been listed in the posts above: either flipping the top mount or removing a stud. If you look at many of the coilovers on the market the TL 04-08 and Accord 03-07 are listed as the same although they have different top mounts. It is perfectly fine to remove a stud. However, it was also designed so that all 6 studs should work. So we will come up with a permanent solution for those who would like to wait for one.
For those of you want an immediate solution it has been listed in the posts above: either flipping the top mount or removing a stud. If you look at many of the coilovers on the market the TL 04-08 and Accord 03-07 are listed as the same although they have different top mounts. It is perfectly fine to remove a stud. However, it was also designed so that all 6 studs should work. So we will come up with a permanent solution for those who would like to wait for one.
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I think we can all calm down a bit. There's talk of being cheated and some overreaction here. If we disappeared into the night or you didn't get a coilover then you would be cheated. That is not occurring. We will get the manufacturer to resolve the issue. I am waiting for a solution.
For those of you want an immediate solution it has been listed in the posts above: either flipping the top mount or removing a stud. If you look at many of the coilovers on the market the TL 04-08 and Accord 03-07 are listed as the same although they have different top mounts. It is perfectly fine to remove a stud. However, it was also designed so that all 6 studs should work. So we will come up with a permanent solution for those who would like to wait for one.
For those of you want an immediate solution it has been listed in the posts above: either flipping the top mount or removing a stud. If you look at many of the coilovers on the market the TL 04-08 and Accord 03-07 are listed as the same although they have different top mounts. It is perfectly fine to remove a stud. However, it was also designed so that all 6 studs should work. So we will come up with a permanent solution for those who would like to wait for one.
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#495
2014 Jeep SRT
Eek, it sounds like you're trying to lower the car by lowering the perch the spring sits on which is NOT how you're supposed to do it. Once you set the preload (top perch snug against the bottom of spring so there's no play), you install the coilover and never loosen that perch again. Otherwise the performance of the coilovers will be affected. To raise/lower the car, you ONLY thread the bottom collar up and down the shock body, which in turn, shortens or lengthens the entire length of the coilover assembly.
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#496
big bad bust
I'm with you man.....also does anyone have an answer my previous question about the cut all the way around one of the coil overs??
#497
2014 Jeep SRT
#498
2014 Jeep SRT
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/ebelp/HowtoAdjust_1_SpringPreload_WhatIs.jpg)
Notice how the installed length of the spring is shorter than the uninstalled length. This means the spring should be slightly compressed between the top plate and the perch of the ISC's. Then the middle locking perch should be snug against the top perch so the preload stays put. As the above pic mentions, the amount of preload is usually a specific amount determined by the manufacturer. I can't remember if the instructions that came with the ISC's specifically listed a target preload.
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#499
big bad bust
well it is reason to be when first the bolts don't line up and now this i mean your probabaly right it is most likely nothing i just find it a bit odd...and i would install them and be happy if they actually fit my car..
#500
A J35A8 EG civic is in
Thanks for the help ebelp! I did not know anything about that. If that's the case though then that means I'm completely lowered as much as possible, which is not what I like to hear
. I want to go at least another .5"-1" lower. When I installed I lowered the bottom shock body as much as possible.
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#501
A J35A8 EG civic is in
Found that link useful for adjustments and understanding of them lol. My Tein's only had one way to adjust if I remember correctly so I did not notice the difference.
#503
As I said in a previous post, we are working to get this resolved. I just found out about this issue yesterday morning and since the manufacturer is in Taiwan we need a couple days to coordinate a solution. It will likely be a new top mount with the studs oriented correctly. No one is being asked to modify the coilovers or to pound sand. Be patient please while we find a solution. Thank you.
No, actually we sent a top mount for the TL to ISC for the design of this. The initial prototype set had Accord top mounts. Again, you can use Accord top mounts but we wanted a direct plug and play. Obviously, the manufacturer inverted one side of the top mounts.
No, actually we sent a top mount for the TL to ISC for the design of this. The initial prototype set had Accord top mounts. Again, you can use Accord top mounts but we wanted a direct plug and play. Obviously, the manufacturer inverted one side of the top mounts.
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#505
Burning Brakes
Everyone that has gotta their coils what kind are they? Street sports? My tracks are waiting at home... Maybe there not messed up.
This sucks for everyone but it could be a lot worse. XLR8 will handle it I'm not to worried now that I calmed down lol.
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Guys i know this is frustrating....first to pay and wait and then to see a wrong top hat in the box....
but what you gotta take away from this is XLR8 is here and is helping out....he is not just running away from the situation....I have worked with many vendors and when a new product comes out there are some problems and snags which the vendor himself cant do anything about....what we know Josh will come through for all the members here....
as i mentioned i know its frustrating coz a lot of $$$ is involved but hold onto your horses and this will turn out just fine....think about this from XLR8's point of view....he might have paid the manufacturer long back and to see this he might be shocked too....i bet he would have checked the coilovers in his facility before shipping em out but everyone was waiting so eagerly so he just shipped em out....
but what you gotta take away from this is XLR8 is here and is helping out....he is not just running away from the situation....I have worked with many vendors and when a new product comes out there are some problems and snags which the vendor himself cant do anything about....what we know Josh will come through for all the members here....
as i mentioned i know its frustrating coz a lot of $$$ is involved but hold onto your horses and this will turn out just fine....think about this from XLR8's point of view....he might have paid the manufacturer long back and to see this he might be shocked too....i bet he would have checked the coilovers in his facility before shipping em out but everyone was waiting so eagerly so he just shipped em out....
#511
Racer
Guys i know this is frustrating....first to pay and wait and then to see a wrong top hat in the box....
but what you gotta take away from this is XLR8 is here and is helping out....he is not just running away from the situation....I have worked with many vendors and when a new product comes out there are some problems and snags which the vendor himself cant do anything about....what we know Josh will come through for all the members here....
as i mentioned i know its frustrating coz a lot of $$$ is involved but hold onto your horses and this will turn out just fine....think about this from XLR8's point of view....he might have paid the manufacturer long back and to see this he might be shocked too....i bet he would have checked the coilovers in his facility before shipping em out but everyone was waiting so eagerly so he just shipped em out....
but what you gotta take away from this is XLR8 is here and is helping out....he is not just running away from the situation....I have worked with many vendors and when a new product comes out there are some problems and snags which the vendor himself cant do anything about....what we know Josh will come through for all the members here....
as i mentioned i know its frustrating coz a lot of $$$ is involved but hold onto your horses and this will turn out just fine....think about this from XLR8's point of view....he might have paid the manufacturer long back and to see this he might be shocked too....i bet he would have checked the coilovers in his facility before shipping em out but everyone was waiting so eagerly so he just shipped em out....
As I said above, provided the communication stays regular (so far, so good), I'm sure we're all reasonable enough to see this issue through to its eventual resolution.
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Guys i know this is frustrating....first to pay and wait and then to see a wrong top hat in the box....
but what you gotta take away from this is XLR8 is here and is helping out....he is not just running away from the situation....I have worked with many vendors and when a new product comes out there are some problems and snags which the vendor himself cant do anything about....what we know Josh will come through for all the members here....
as i mentioned i know its frustrating coz a lot of $$$ is involved but hold onto your horses and this will turn out just fine....think about this from XLR8's point of view....he might have paid the manufacturer long back and to see this he might be shocked too....i bet he would have checked the coilovers in his facility before shipping em out but everyone was waiting so eagerly so he just shipped em out....
but what you gotta take away from this is XLR8 is here and is helping out....he is not just running away from the situation....I have worked with many vendors and when a new product comes out there are some problems and snags which the vendor himself cant do anything about....what we know Josh will come through for all the members here....
as i mentioned i know its frustrating coz a lot of $$$ is involved but hold onto your horses and this will turn out just fine....think about this from XLR8's point of view....he might have paid the manufacturer long back and to see this he might be shocked too....i bet he would have checked the coilovers in his facility before shipping em out but everyone was waiting so eagerly so he just shipped em out....
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#513
2014 Jeep SRT
Thanks for the help ebelp! I did not know anything about that. If that's the case though then that means I'm completely lowered as much as possible, which is not what I like to hear
. I want to go at least another .5"-1" lower. When I installed I lowered the bottom shock body as much as possible.
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Plus, if you were as low as you could go on these coilovers, your rims would be tucked about an inch up in the wheel wells. I still have at least an inch lower I could go on mine and I'm sitting lower than you:
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Jack you car back up, make sure the spring preload is set, and then adjust that lower collar (the opposite direction) and your car will be slammed in no time. Remember, if you want to make the car lower, make the overall length of the coilover assembly shorter.
Last edited by ebelp; 05-01-2012 at 06:06 PM.
#514
Burning Brakes
Yeah I know but I was just hoping but anyhow I got my coils. Only one plate is backwards and honestly it looks like it'll only take a min to fix so, it's not so to bad. This is my first set of coils, should be s great experience. I can't wait to install them Thursday!
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#516
2014 Jeep SRT
This thread needs more installed ISC pics!
#518
big bad bust
Ok so all That is needed for the one coil that doesn't fit is to tap out one of studs in the top part? And also the preload is set already? So all I need to do Is install and adjust height?
#519
2014 Jeep SRT
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#520
big bad bust
ohh ok i guess im starting to get pumped again...can you give me a rundown on how excatly to adjust height once on the car..im still a little confused about that...thanks!