Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and in search of some opinions. I've read a lot of posts with people saying you need a camber kit when you lower your car and a lot of posts to the contrary as well. So I wanted to see if I could get some advice for my specific situation.

I have a 2008 TL Type-S. I just put on Koni yellows and H&R sport springs. When I went to pick up the car from getting the alignment done, the person at the shop said that I definitely needed a camber kit because the camber and caster was not adjustable on my car, and if I did not get one then I would probably eat through the inside of my tires very quickly. He did not try to sell me one, but just advised that I do get it.

I am attaching the print out from before/after the alignment. Also, please note they could not do the alignment in the rear because the bolt had seized up, so I need to get that taken care of before they can align the back.

Any advice/guidance would be greatly appreciated!!

 

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Welcome. But search better. Hell this is the first post in this us forum and is stickied at the top: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...er-kit-606757/

 

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Thanks for your response..... Yes, I have read that already. I have also read many other threads on other forums that say otherwise. This is why I posted the exact before and after specs..... If you think I don't know how to search you are sadly mistaken.

 

What more can anyone tell you than what's in that thread or any of the other numerous camber arm / toe arm discussion threads?

 

So you just can't read?

Ehh searching is a start

 

For starters... the FL and FR camber are both off, but at least close, while the RR and RL camber are off quite a bit (from eachother). Is that an issue?

 

- you don't "need" a camber kit
- your front camber isn't that far off as well as your rear
- get your toe issues fixed in the rear ASAP. this will kill your tires much faster than anything else, especially toe that far off

regarding need or not that's your decision. most people don't get camber kits if they're around -2 or less. i always like to be on the conservative side and i bought a camber kit and always set my rear camber to -1 (middle of the specs)...it also make my rear look more flush. my front camber i don't adjust due to potential rubbing issues and leave it as is (-1.4 and -1.5).

people have different needs and preferences just gotta see what yours are.
i also balance and rotate every 6 months, and also do alignments twice a year as part of firestone's lifetime alignment package.

 

For starters, you went to a shop with idiots.

The rear toe is adjustable via the eccentric bolt on the inside of the rear lower control arms. Go back and get that fixed, and DON'T PAY EXTRA. He just adjusted the front toe using the front tie rods. That rear camber is acceptable but it's best that you bring in to lower than -1.5 degree using the SPC upper adjustable control arms.

I have found a lot of stupid shops over the years where "techs" don't know how to do alignments properly or cars came out with worse alignment specs than when going in.

 

Definitely get your money back for not adjusting your rear toe (or make them do it correctly). Either way it's probably a hack-job you're getting.

BTW: Camber is typically uneven because the subframe is shifted to one side. Subframes have quite a bit of play in them when their bolts are loosened (for ease of assembly). If you had your rear subframe loosened and shoved toward the drivers side, it could potentially fix the problem. The front isn't that far off, so may not be worth messing with (could make it worse in the opposite direction).

Front & rear subframe:

 

His rear eccentric bolts are frozen, so they couldn't do the toe adjustment.

Yep.

OP, you can cut the old bolts and replace them yourself. Do a search, a couple of us have done this and there is a thread somewhere on how to do it.

 

In my 05 6MT, even with 100% stock suspension, even with perfect 0.00 rear toe, I still get inner edge wear in the rear. I'm hoping it's the shitty Khumos (2 sets did this).