packohotdogs

Hello Everyone,

Sorry if this is a redundant post, I haven't found anything with comprehensive info in what I am looking for.

So, I am looking into getting some spacers for my back wheels. I have a 04TL ASPEC (Wheels & Suspension) with auto.

I am thinking 10 or 15 mm. Can someone reccommend a product that WON'T require rolling the fenders or removing the old studs? I don't have a garage at my condo, and am looking for a plug and play option here...

Any advice/recommendations are GREATLY apprecaited!

DooooT

Depends on your tires and rims. Do you have stock rims or upgrades?

I am new to spacers as well. But from what I researched a +35 offset will give you a flush look and fender rolling would not be required if running on stock tires (235/45/17).

If you dont want to use any extended studs. Check out Ichiba V2 Spacers - their direct plug & play spacers which include studs as well. Also have great reviews from other members on this site...

Try searching for them - prob find better info!!

Hadouken

Stock wheels.... hmm... maybe 15mm rear and 10mm in front?

myron

iTrader: (4)

15mm front and 20mm rear is the way to do it. Both spacers can be had with pressed in studs and hubcentric as well. Running those now with 19x8.5 +45mm offset wheels and lowered. No rubbing or rolling of fenders.

look in CLtotheTL3.2's thread in the picture section, he has that exact setup you are looking for with a-spec wheels. good luck

6spdtl-s

iTrader: (1)

I was dropped and had rubbing when i was running tl-s rims (235/45/17 tires) along with 15mm spacers up front

ichiba v2 spacers are nice

packohotdogs

Thanks guys... I have 18" Aspec wheels with 245/40-18 tires... I will check out the link...

thanks a ton!

myron

iTrader: (4)

depends how much you are dropped too. If you're slammed you will probably have problems like that you are right.

packohotdogs

I have the stock A-spec drop (~1"). Am I good in the rear with 15mm spacers and 245/40/18 tires?

myron

iTrader: (4)

PM CLtotheTL32 and ask him directly, he knows about this first hand so he can give you a definite answer.

abracing

Are you just putting spacers on the rear? Sorry still reading on spacers and also wondering if its a good idea to just put spacers on the rear only.

packohotdogs

Rear omly was my original thought. If they look dope, I may put them on the front also... but for now, I am thinking just the rear...

abracing

Cool, looking forward on what you decide on doing.

murph145

I would do 15mm front and back Ichiba V2 .... pricey but works good thats what i have on my car... with aspec suspension only you wouldnt be rubbing

Red Voodoo

What were you dropped on? I'm considering 15mm all around, and I'm dropped with Tech-S springs (approx 1.75-in lower than stock height) and utilizing the OEM 5-spoke Enkei wheels (8-in). I'm a bit concerned going 20mm on the rears for that "flush" look... and I'm now a bit worried about 15mm in the front.

myron

iTrader: (4)

I had 20mm in the back lowered 1.5" on stock wheels and no problems. Tires were on the inside of the little lip that needs to be rolled so it doens't matter how low you get, you will be fine. 1.75 would not be a problem with 20mm spacers

Red Voodoo

Good to know... thanks, brah! To up the ante a bit, I've been considering going with a 255/40R17 tire (as discussed in a thread elsewhere on this forum). I'm wondering if this may play a factor down the road... Hmmm.

packohotdogs

That's what I am worried about with my 245-40-18. I measured and there's about 15-20mm of clearance horizontally. However, since I am only dropped about 1", I have a lot of room vertically.

Does any one know if the back of the A-spec wheel with work with the 15mm Ichiba V2 spacer? Just want to be sure that the recessed nutz on the original lugs have a place to go for a flush mount.

05AcTL

iTrader: (15)

I was looking for spacers too and i was considering a 10 or 15mm but I wasnt sure what to go with cause im dropped on tein ss's with aspec rims but im running a 255/35/18.. im not sure exactly how much im dropped but i dont have any wheel gap right now and my fenders aren't rolled so if anyone has any advice that would be great

Steven Bell

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Guys, do spacers have any adverse effect on the TL?


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abracing

here's a thread i read thats a little old but has some good inputs https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=spacer+issues

and a tl-rocks commented on the stress to the bearings:
Ok, so to bring some hard numbers into this "more stress" on the bearings claim, I crawled under my car to look in the front wheel drive area. It looks like the bearings are inboard of the disk brakes, but within the width of the wheels. But I couldn't measure much beyond that...

I'm putting some effort into this because of all the concerns raised on this thread so far...and frankly, I'm concerned too since no one so far has put much backing into their concerns...

But ideally the bearing should be centered on the midplane of the wheel to avoid torque loading of the bearings, so I'll run with this assumption. And assuming that the 45mm offset of the stock wheels produce ideal alignment of the bearings to the center plane of the wheels...

In this case, assuming a 3000 lbs car and a 55/45 front/back weight ratio, each front wheel would see 825 lbs of its curb weight (pure radial loading) and no torque loading on the bearings. With a new wheel that has only 40 mm offset, pushing the wheel outboard, a 10mm spacer between the wheel and hub would create a 15mm cantilever from ideal alignment pushing the wheel further outboard(which is equivalent to a wheel with 30mm offset)

This cantilever would cause an additional torque load of about 27 ft-lbs on each front wheel (15mm=.59", .59"/12" = .0492 ft, torque load = .0492 ft * 825 lbs = 40.6 ft-lbs). So yes, this causes an additional component of stress on the bearings....but wait there's more....

According to one of the stickys on this forum, https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63320, a +31mm is still an acceptable fitment for a 18x8 wheel (apparently these numbers are from Acura), which is equivalent to a 14mm cantilever from ideal alignment. This produces a torque load using the above calculations of 37.9 ft-lbs. Remember, this is supposedly acceptable by Acura for the 04 TL.

So, with the 10mm wheel spacers and a 40mm offset, we are looking at 2.7 ft-lbs beyond Acura's accepted boundary (40.6 ft-lbs - 37.9 ft-lbs)...the question is...is this enough to be concerned about?

'Hope i didn't bore you with my nerdy analysis, but I just wanted to put some perspective to this discussion of "more stress on the bearings."

Conclusion: Don't know about you, but an additional 2.7 ft-lbs just doesn't look enough to be concerned about.

Comments?

6spdtl-s

iTrader: (1)

im dropped on neuspeed sport springs and koni adjustibles on the lowest perch. there was a slight tuck up front.

CLtotheTL32

iTrader: (3)

Here's what I have:
18x8.5
245/40/18
+30 up front due to 15mm spacers
+25 in the rear due to 20mm spacers

I'm on TEIN S-Tech springs and my rear fenders are rolled. Don't quote me on this, but I think you'll rub if you use more than a 10mm spacer, especially since you're running a 245 tire. My rear fenders are rolled and I still rub a little, especially when my gas tank is full or have something in my trunk.

myron

iTrader: (4)

I think it would also depend on the camber, you have a camber kit and it's somewhat corrected right?

CLtotheTL32

iTrader: (3)

Meh, somewhat. Here are my alignment specs:

Camber/Toe
Front Left: -1.4/-0.02
Front Right: -1.1/0.01
Rear Left: -1.0/0.04
Rear Right: -1.0/-0.03

Ingalls Rear Camber Kit and the front is stock.

Red Voodoo

Hmmm... Good point, Myron! My camber in the rear is about -2, so I expect that I will see the top of the tire tucked in a bit. I've decided to pick up a set if 15mm spacers to "try" them out for a week. In all honesty, I'm intrigued on the aesthetic improvement that the spacers will do for the stance of the car, but if I'm going to run into any performance or handling issues, then these puppies will be up for sale quickly!