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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Memory Seats Don't Work!

I just bought an 07 TL-S at an auction about a week ago. It only came with a valet key. I went to the dealership n got a key cut and programed. I followed the directions in the manual on how to set up the memory seats but they dont see to work...what can be the problem? pls help!!
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Does your MID show "Driver 1 Detected" when you use your fob to unlock and open the door?

If not, it's not paired.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Yeah when I open the door it says "Welcome Drive 1". The manual says to press the "memo" button and after a beep to press either the first or second preset...but there is no beep! lol
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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Try pressing and holding the lock and unlock buttons on the remote at the same time.

If that doesn't work, read this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=556315&page=2
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Try pressing and holding the lock and unlock buttons on the remote at the same time.
Supposedly his MID shows "Welcome Driver 1", so that means his keyfob is already paired.

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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
Supposedly his MID shows "Welcome Driver 1", so that means his keyfob is already paired.

Yes, paired with the car for lock/unlock, but not necessarily paired to the memory function. Read this post for an explanation:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=56.

I think he just needs to hold lock/unlock together to get it paired to the memory settings.
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Yeah when I open the door it says "Welcome Drive 1". The manual says to press the "memo" button and after a beep to press either the first or second preset...but there is no beep! lol
OK, missed this part.

1. Are you in ignition II when trying to set the memory?

2. Does your windshield washer work? If not, fuse #20 is blown which also controls the power to the seat memory unit. Replace it with a 10A fuse and reset the seat memory. You should now get a beep. After setting the memory (be sure you store the settings in memory button #1), move your seat all the way back, close the door and lock it with the remote. Then unlock it (with the remote) and open the door. The seat should move back to where you previously set it. If it doesn't, press and hold the lock and unlock buttons to pair the remote with the memory unit. Try the above procedure again.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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haha im at work right now...but i think u might have solved the problem...indeed the windshield washer doesnt work...i cant believe that its the same fuse...lol thanks im going to give it a shot and post back!!
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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yep, I'll guarantee that's your problem. The green light that indicates your rear view mirror light reduction is on is also out. That fuse controls that as well. If you have an 04-05, there is a TSB to replace the fuse with a 10A fuse instead of a 7.5 fuse:

http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B04-005.PDF

you may still have to hold the lock/unlock buttons on the remote after setting the memory, but I don't think so.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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ok quick question...u said fuse #20 is blown...and to replace it with 10A...which one is #20? i see a 10A...should i just replace that one?
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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There's a diagram on the back of the fuse box cover as well as in your owner's manual, about pg 248. On an 04 TL, it's 3rd from the right in the middle row.

In the 04-05 TLs, the fuse OEM fuse rating was 7.5A which proved to be insufficient. Acura issued the TSB to change the fuse to a 10A. I believe starting with the 06 year, the OEM fuse rating has been changed to 10A.

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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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ok so i just checked...the current fuse i have in the #20 slot is 15A...its an 07 TL
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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i bought a whole set of fuses...would it make sence to replace it with another 15A?
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Well, as I said, my info for fuse location is based off of 04/05. You'll have to go by what your manual and/or fuse diagram on the fuse box cover tells you. You need to replace the fuse labeled "washer" with the same amperage.

Is the green light in your rear view mirror also out? That one fuse controls all three things: seat memory, washer, and mirror dimmer.

And you're looking in the under dash fuse box, not the under hood fuse box, correct?

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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 04:32 AM
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Ok yeah u were right!!! In the 07 TLS the washer fuse is 15A...I replaced it and like magic everything that wasnt working now works...the window washer!!...the memory seats!!!...and the side mirrors are now all fully functional!! Thanks man!! The last thing to do is figure out which fuse is for the DRLs..cus they don't work either!!
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Glad that fixed it.

DRL is fuse #10 in the underhood fuse box (at least for the 04 Canadian TL). I take it you don't have an owner's manual?

You can set up an account with your VIN# on myacura.com and then it will give you access to an online manual.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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I just bought a 2007 TL and when I unlock doors using remote the memory settings don't work...it's my understanding that using key fob#1 should set seat to memo #1 and fob#2 should set seat to memo #2...am I wrong or is there a problem? The AC, stereo, and MID settings recognize the driver profiles but not the memory seats...please help!!
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Did you read this entire thread and perform all the checks and owner's manual procedures listed?
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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ok thanks again man...it was an easy fix...i went to they guy that sold me the car and got the manual...it was fuse #3...so now everything is working great!! deff saved a lot of money...was about to take it to the dealership and get ripped off!! thanks!
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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I wanted to make sure there was a problem before I went threw the reprogramming of fobs
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Well, if the fuse is out, you have a problem. If you haven't followed the procedures to load a memory setting in position 1 and/or 2, you have a problem.

Have you checked for a bad fuse and have you set the memory switches per the manual?
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Negative on the fuse, I will check. The memory switches work if I manually press them.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ-TLGuy
Negative on the fuse, I will check. The memory switches work if I manually press them.
Dude, this is like pulling teeth. Have you read any part of this thread? Does your washer work? If so, it's not the fuse. (Since your buttons work, it's also not the fuse).

If it's not the fuse and the memory buttons have been programmed, then you probably only need to hold the lock/unlock buttons on the remote to get it working. Does the MID say driver1/driver2 after using the fob to unlock the car?

Last, read posts #4 and #6 and go to those links for more info.

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Dude, this is like pulling teeth. Have you read any part of this thread? Does your washer work? If so, it's not the fuse. (Since your buttons work, it's also not the fuse).

If it's not the fuse and the memory buttons have been programmed, then you probably only need to hold the lock/unlock buttons on the remote to get it working. Does the MID say driver1/driver2 after using the fob to unlock the car?

Last, read posts #4 and #6 and go to those links for more info.
Yes, the MID says driver ! / driver 2, however, it does not say welcome driver 1 or 2 when I enter, nor does it set seats when unlocked from remote....Sorry if I'm making you feel like a dentist.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Yes, the MID says driver ! / driver 2, however, it does not say welcome driver 1 or 2 when I enter, nor does it set seats when unlocked from remote....Sorry if I'm making you feel like a dentist.
OK, so your windshield washer works, correct?

If so, then the remote is not paired with the car. The short fix is to hold the lock and unlock buttons on the remote down at the same time. Then move the seat out of position, close the door, lock and then unlock, open the door. Is the seat moving? If not, then try holding the lock/unlock buttons again and repeat the above.

If that doesn't work, follow the instructions in the link given in post 4 or 6 (can't remember) to pair the remote to the car. Good luck, let us know what happens,
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Yes, washer works.

I linked the remote using lock/unlock and nothing...followed thread #4, still nothing...moved seats, closed door, etc...nothing. I'm totally frustrated and giving up...going to take back to dealer and have them fix it when my plates come in. Thanks for your time.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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I'm having an issue with mine but not like these guys. My remotes work fine but my thing is if the car is on and running. You get in my car move the seat then i get in and press the D1 seat button shouldn't everything return to my setting?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
I'm having an issue with mine but not like these guys. My remotes work fine but my thing is if the car is on and running. You get in my car move the seat then i get in and press the D1 seat button shouldn't everything return to my setting?
You have to press and hold it until it beeps, then the seats and/or mirrors should move.

Also, for MT, parking brake must be set and you can't be in reverse. For AT, shift lever must be in P:

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...404O00090B.pdf
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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I believe the memory seats worked when I got the car, but they don't right now. The remote works, and the car recognizes it properly as #1. I can customize the driver settings, window washer works, mirrors work manually. Pressing the memory seat buttons does nothing, I never hear a beep, the #1 and #2 don't do anything when pressed, no lights come on aside from the buttons illuminating with the lights on.

I did also notice when I put the car into reverse and have a mirror selected, it keeps moving down for as long as the car is in reverse. It didn't do that before, but I never use that feature.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Anyone have an idea what might be causing my issue?

I can get a new power seat memory button and see if that does anything. The buttons are doing nothing.

Anyone know what controls the mirrors when in reverse? The mirrors just move in indefinitely, and sit there clicking when they hit the end of travel. When taken out of R, they move back for what appears to be a set time, but not far enough to go back where they were. Whatever tells them how far to move in and down isnt working.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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There is a box under the driver seat that controlls seat memory positions. I assume that also manages the mirrors, since those positions are also suppose to be saved with the driver number.

TSB 04-005 covers the seat memory not working on 04-05 TL's. The part number was 81628-SEP-A01, and they replace it with a 81628-SEP-A02. Subsequently the part was replaced with 81628-SEP-A03, and then 81628-SEP-A04. Presumably these unit have had issues.

I will replace my 81628-SEP-A04 with the same model and see if that fixes it.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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I disconnected the connectors going to the unit under the seat, and the mirrors no longer move when put into reverse. They still do work normally, and the car does recognize the driver number still. Everything aside from the seat memory and mirror auto tilting appears to work.

I will plug the unit back in tomorrow and see if it works, but its probably just going to need to be replaced. It does appear to be fairly easy to remove, you just pull the driver seat and its right in front of you.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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I had that TSB done on my 04 years ago. My symptoms were that no memory settings were retained. I wouldn't be surprised if your memory issues are due to a faulty module.

Your mirror issues are probably due to something else. Pretty sure there's an easy fix for that problem, but can't remember what it is. Good luck!
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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I replaced the unit today with one that said it was from an 08, and had an identical part number to the one I had, which is the latest generation. The board inside was labeled early 06, whereas the one in the car was something like the 48th week of 07.

Anyways, nothing has changed. Mirrors work, seat works, windshield wash sprays. However, the auto-tiling mirrors never stop tilting, and the seat memory buttons do nothing. No beeps, seat movement, reaction of any kind. It worked a few months ago, but I never use the feature so I don't know when it failed.

I assume the door panel needs to be removed to get at the buttons? The #1 seat position light was out when I purchased the car, and I have the bulb but never replaced it.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Im glad this got brought back up. Mines somewhat similar though my mirrors are fine. The car reconginzes which key fob I have... sometimes.. and sometimes it doesnt. Right now, I had to recline my seat today to get my wallet, and when I pushed the number 1 on the door to go back to where it should be, it started going and just stopped and the lights on the door went out. The buttons still all work. Once I get out of class Im gonna try and see what I can accomplish with it tonight.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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What year is it? The early models have problems. I did see a few people on here claim an 07-08 TL-S has identical issues to mine, however I didn't see any resolution.

The box under the seat has the piezo beeper in it, and appears to be directly responsible for controlling the seat and recalling memory positions. It is not responsible for recognizing the driver number. My car never had an issue detecting the #1 key, and always shows that on the display unless I cycle the ignition within 30 seconds or so. Then it still allows me to configure the driver 1 settings, but it does not say welcome Driver 1.

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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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As far as I remember it never said "Welcome driver 1" ever, but my seats always worked with the memory settings. So confusing. Only cool thing, is Im the only one that drives my car, so It never has to move.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Your vehicle is covered under the TSB 04-005.

Most likely replacing the module under the seat will fix it.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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Anyone have any idea why my memory seat buttons and auto tilting mirrors don't work?

Oddly enough, after replacing the module, the mirrors try and go back. It looks like they move back for the same period of time as they moved initially, which is however long its in reverse. Before it would just move for a set period of time.

I'm not sure what else is in control of those buttons. Presumably its not just the module under the seat.
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