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Old 06-02-2008 | 10:19 PM
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Question Injen Installation Help!!! Filter rubs Fog Light

Does anyone know how I can install an INJEN CAI on my 07TypeS without the filter rubbing against the fog light? The bumper removal and old intake removal was straight forward but when I tried to reinstall the bumper, I noticed it was hitting my fog lights and bending the filter, tried to do some adjustments with the bracket but still can't get clearance. HELP!! :shakehead

I apologize if this subject is already in the forum.....I searched for over an hour and still can't find an answer.
Old 06-03-2008 | 01:41 AM
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Some people seem to be having this problem. Try repositioning the intake from the throttle body. If that fails, worst comes to worse you can cut the intake tube.
Old 06-03-2008 | 11:27 AM
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Also, on Fujita, IIRC, (not sure about others), the ground wires have to be re-positioned and the vibration mount put in the old ground position.

I think someone said (again, this might have been Fujita) that if you don't relocate the ground, the filter will be behind the fog light.

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Old 06-03-2008 | 08:46 PM
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Relocating the ground is exactly what the instruction entails so I did just that. I believe this is a R&D oversight and Injen must not take into account of the OEM fog light housing for the 07 Acura TL TypeS.

Right now my filter is crushed against the fog light and I have to wait for some free time to take off the bumper again and remove the CAI. I don't want to take the chance with the filter ripping and do some damage to the engine, or my fog light housing destroyed from constant rubbing with vibration.

Don't get me wrong, I love this Injen CAI....quiet at normal driving and at WOT....WOW!! The loud ROARRR is amazing. Not to mention the quick response. I just wish Injen would do more QUALITY ASSURANCE before releasing the fitment statement for the TL TypeS.
Old 06-04-2008 | 01:27 PM
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Injen CAI Installation Quick Fix for 07 TL TypeS

Okay Gents, after weeks of reading posts from numerous generous members, taking their time to share their knowlege to make life easier for the rest of us, I now feel obligated to share some info as I encounter them during my DIY with the Injen CAI. Here's my quick fix to the Injen installation issue.

As you can see, I noticed the bumper reinstallation was not lining up due to the filter pressing against the fog light, causing part of the filter to crush:
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I added a couple of lock washers between the mount and the frame and slided the connection channel as far back as I could before tightening the nut to the vibration mount:


Reposition the filter so that it will angle away from the front of the car and tightened the collar keeping it straight with the tube:


Apply a piece of felt or cloth approx. center of the filter facing the front of the vehicle. Reinstall the bumper. See how the filter touches the fog light housing...but without additional pressure applied:


I think this will work so use this rigging at your own risk. I will try to contact Injen and let them know the installation issue with this particular vehicle....maybe they will make a specific model for 07 TL TypeS , not sure if other 3G TL with fog lights also have this issue.

As an added tip. If you're doing the CAI installation yourself and no help is available, try to place something underneath the front bumper to support it while you yank it away. If the bumper is not supported, you will risk tearing the fog light wires when the bumper break loose! I used the box the Injen CAI came in.....perfect fit!!
Old 06-09-2008 | 07:27 PM
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Question Are 04-08 Base TL and 07 TL TypeS bumpers identical???

Can someone verify if the 3G Base TL bumpers/fog lights are identical to the 07 Type S??

I'm trying to make a case with Injen Manufacture and the variables that would explain the fitment issue are either it was a manufacturing defect for the RD1482, or that the 07 TypeS bumper/fog light is actually different from other 3G TL.

Appreciate if someone can respond to this inquiry.
Old 06-09-2008 | 07:36 PM
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I think csmeance is the man for this.

Asfar as I know, '07-'08 TL/TL-S Fogs are all the same.
Old 06-14-2008 | 05:27 PM
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Same problem as the OP with Fujita MA-2006 on '07 TL-S.

Same partial fixes - cheat the vibramount as much as possible and "tip" the filter. Helps, but still contacts the fog connector.



Anybody got a better, "correct" solution?
Old 06-14-2008 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JVs_TypeS
Can someone verify if the 3G Base TL bumpers/fog lights are identical to the 07 Type S??

I'm trying to make a case with Injen Manufacture and the variables that would explain the fitment issue are either it was a manufacturing defect for the RD1482, or that the 07 TypeS bumper/fog light is actually different from other 3G TL.

Appreciate if someone can respond to this inquiry.
The foglights and the bumpers are the same on the 07 TL-S and 08 TL-S. The fitment issue is due the the manufacturer just saying it will fit the 07 and 08 TL-S because the one for AEM fits. The issue with this is that the AEM sits a little higher up in the car so the filter is not touching the foglight. This is due to a lack of testing on the 07+ TLS for the manufacuter.

To prove the fogs and bumpers are the same, go to acuraoemparts.com and see, the part numbers for the front bumper and fogs are the same.
Old 06-14-2008 | 08:28 PM
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what about cutting the end of the CAI to bring the filter up a bit higher??? has anyone tried this??? i think because the Fujita/Injen's tube get's bigger at the filter end???
Old 06-14-2008 | 09:50 PM
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Because of the bend in the pipe, cutting it at the TB will not let the filter ride *higher*, BUT it will pull the filter toward the engine bay/away from the fog light.

It's a good idea. Chill_dog suggested it earlier today (shortly after the problem was discovered).

The extra inch or so from the P2R TB Spacer exacerbates the problem. So taking back that inch should help.

I'll keep an eye on mine, and if it is problematic, I'll probaby cut it an see what happerns.
Old 06-16-2008 | 02:18 PM
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Cutting the tube is not an option for Injen CAI due to the increased diameter at the tip for filter fitment. I believe the tip is flaired out about another 1/2 inch.

To make the story short, I tried to work this issue with Injen Techs with no success. They insisted that it was tested on the new TL TypeS with fog lights without any clearance issues. They believe it is the assembly line problem and may have been bent/welded wrong. Injen wanted me to take mine out to send it back to them to inspect and send back upon completion....(about 2-3 wks turnaround)....HELL NO!! It was a PITA to take the old intake out so I'm not about to go through that fiasco to take out the Injen CAI, reinstall the old intake, then in 2-3 wks remove the intake, then reinstall the new CAI.

The rig job works for now.....or until I put in the S/C when it's available for TypeS.

BTW, I went to the Injen Website where I purchased the CAI and guessed what......they REMOVED the statement "Fits 3.5L 07 TL Type-S"!
Old 06-16-2008 | 02:37 PM
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Damn that sucks man.

Can any 08 Type-S owner confirm that this is NOT a problem with the AEM?
Old 06-16-2008 | 02:39 PM
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Well, to Fujita's credit, they don't (yet) claim TL-S fitment.

I meant cutting the TB/Intake end, not the filter end. This would pull the intake away (side ways) from the fog light.

Do you have the P2R (or other) Throttle Body Spacer? Just curious.
Old 06-16-2008 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CF21TL-S
Damn that sucks man.

Can any 08 Type-S owner confirm that this is NOT a problem with the AEM?
It's shorter, and it shouldn't be a problem. The moment my AEM will come in, I will install it.
Old 06-16-2008 | 04:38 PM
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In addition to the adjustments the OP made (Offsetting the vibramount and cocking the filter) we also added a bit of Velcro Backing (the "soft side of the Velcro) as shown below.

With the offset vibramount the intake was very close to the support as the intake pipe passes into the engine bay. A few inches of the Velcro backing provides a soft surface if the intake rubs a little.

Old 06-17-2008 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Well, to Fujita's credit, they don't (yet) claim TL-S fitment.

I meant cutting the TB/Intake end, not the filter end. This would pull the intake away (side ways) from the fog light.

Do you have the P2R (or other) Throttle Body Spacer? Just curious.
Hey Bearcat! Yeah, I do have the Outlaw Engineering IM/TB spacer kit installed....but this is more like a thick gasket then actual 'spacers', only 1/4" thick. I don't think this affect the CAI at all.
Old 06-17-2008 | 09:23 AM
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I agree, 1/4" shouldn't be enought to matter. The P2R, OTOH, is nearly an inch overall.

In another thread, this user: nim090, said they have the Injen with a TL-S and it fits perfectly.
Old 08-03-2011 | 03:31 PM
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i have 07 tls with the same problem the intake rubbing causes my driver side fog light hid bulb to always go out. im on my third set of fog light bulbs. i have the injen cai with the p2r tbs.
Old 01-08-2012 | 03:37 PM
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Revival of an old thread with a solution! Sticky?

I'm glad that Summit Racing is in my back yard. I spent an hour yesterday researching parts and pulling them from the warehouse to test fit until I found a solution.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-RX-4140/

Please notice how the inlet is still 3.5" AND it keeps the 3.5" profile for the entire length of the filter, therefore avoiding the fog light.

Have fun!

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Old 01-08-2012 | 04:17 PM
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Interesting. Sounds like a good replacement if needed.


I've been running the stock Fujita cone shaped filter for about 3 1/2 years and although it does have a small "dent" from the fog connector, it's held up just fine. Had it off to clean at the last oil change (couple months ago, maybe less); No issues as far as I can tell.
Old 01-08-2012 | 04:31 PM
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I had the same problem with my 07 TL-S. I just removed the fog light and was done with it.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Interesting. Sounds like a good replacement if needed.


I've been running the stock Fujita cone shaped filter for about 3 1/2 years and although it does have a small "dent" from the fog connector, it's held up just fine. Had it off to clean at the last oil change (couple months ago, maybe less); No issues as far as I can tell.
Unfortunately I was not so lucky...it made a hole within a month with my Fujita intake.

Originally Posted by 1uncleanTL-S
I had the same problem with my 07 TL-S. I just removed the fog light and was done with it.
lol. Thats hardcore
Old 06-18-2014 | 11:48 AM
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Hi Guys!
I know this is an old thread but I'm having the exact same issue with my 2007 Type S... Got the Injen CAI installed last week and the driver side fog went out. Upon research, i discovered the filter is hitting the fog

Has anyone been able to come up with a legit fix?

gerzand, I like your idea of replacing the filter. Can someone confirm if they tried this and it worked?

HELLPPPPPP!
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Amon, I have not done this install or worked with this product as I have the AEM V2 and it fits perfect! There is 1 idea I come up with that wasnt mentioned during this post that I think will fix the issue.

During install you are requested to move 1 of the battery grounds. then put the vibration spacer in the old ground spot. people have put washers and pushed the spacer fitment back as far as the bolt allows where its located, so this tells me there is plenty of flex and give in the install.

Why not drill out a new spacer bolt hole in that panel? install the intake and move it to where its not hitting the fog light, mark on the panel where the bolt should go and drill it out. its a thin piece of metal that a good metal bit should drill right through. this will keep the intake positioned where you need it and away from the fog light housing causing the burn outs and rubbing.

Picture attached explaining what I am talking about.

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Old 06-22-2014 | 05:23 PM
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ThankYou for the well put detailed info speeden6. 👍

So, i had already ordered the k&n filter .. Just put it on and oh boy!!! Fitted perfectly! No more rubbing against the fogs! Thsi filter is slimmer and has clearance down there! Fogs are back on 😎😉

For all others having the issue, k&n lifetime filter RX-4140 slim filter fixes this issue. Its about $70!
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