Impossible TL Type-S Misfire
09-04-2018, 09:39 PM
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Cool, keep us posted.
09-04-2018, 11:28 PM
#84
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K in a nut shell is wow this thing rips , what the he'll is in those plugs , I bit improvement in deed .
Now for the downer , still nothing changes with the idle to 1500 ish rough with lite throttle .
Ya all still thing it's the coils eh ? Oh by the way cycling threw with the new coil did nothing .
My cost the the new coils is very good . 🤔🤔
Anyone check out the two pics I sent previously one was the coil wire and socket and one was the brand of coil pack .
Happy to say all that work was worth it , but still frustrated With this missfires
Now for the downer , still nothing changes with the idle to 1500 ish rough with lite throttle .
Ya all still thing it's the coils eh ? Oh by the way cycling threw with the new coil did nothing .
My cost the the new coils is very good . 🤔🤔
Anyone check out the two pics I sent previously one was the coil wire and socket and one was the brand of coil pack .
Happy to say all that work was worth it , but still frustrated With this missfires
09-05-2018, 12:00 AM
#85
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Holly shit !! That's not cheap .
I have a parts store here in town OEM replacement $50.00 ea
09-05-2018, 05:27 AM
#86
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I'll never understand why people will cheap out on plugs for something that lasts 105K+ miles. Retail, the NGK plugs run for $60. They can be found on sale for less than $50. They cost less than $8/year for the average driver...
OP, you never did answer: what analyzer did you use?
Has the car run like this since you acquired it? Where did you purchase it?
Honestly, at this point, it's probably worth paying a dealer $125 for a diagnosis...
OP, you never did answer: what analyzer did you use?
Has the car run like this since you acquired it? Where did you purchase it?
Honestly, at this point, it's probably worth paying a dealer $125 for a diagnosis...
09-05-2018, 07:53 AM
#87
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I'll never understand why people will cheap out on plugs for something that lasts 105K+ miles. Retail, the NGK plugs run for $60. They can be found on sale for less than $50. They cost less than $8/year for the average driver...
OP, you never did answer: what analyzer did you use?
Has the car run like this since you acquired it? Where did you purchase it?
Honestly, at this point, it's probably worth paying a dealer $125 for a diagnosis...
OP, you never did answer: what analyzer did you use?
Has the car run like this since you acquired it? Where did you purchase it?
Honestly, at this point, it's probably worth paying a dealer $125 for a diagnosis...
09-05-2018, 08:22 AM
#88
Instructor
I will inquirer about the brand as I am not familiar with it . My Machanic used his snap on brand scanner
09-05-2018, 08:24 AM
#89
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I'll never understand why people will cheap out on plugs for something that lasts 105K+ miles. Retail, the NGK plugs run for $60. They can be found on sale for less than $50. They cost less than $8/year for the average driver...
OP, you never did answer: what analyzer did you use?
Has the car run like this since you acquired it? Where did you purchase it?
Honestly, at this point, it's probably worth paying a dealer $125 for a diagnosis...
OP, you never did answer: what analyzer did you use?
Has the car run like this since you acquired it? Where did you purchase it?
Honestly, at this point, it's probably worth paying a dealer $125 for a diagnosis...
Figured it needed a tune up , clearly it did . Proof being with the new ngk plugs
09-05-2018, 10:54 AM
#90
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Wait, I thought you "cheaped out" and added the Bosch plugs yourself? So you yourself created the need for a "tune up"....
09-05-2018, 11:16 AM
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09-06-2018, 02:49 AM
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09-06-2018, 09:38 PM
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Did anyone catch the pic I posted on the coil pack wire on cylinder 1 ?
Today's update , installed new PCV vavle and new EGR valve.
Nothing changed , the evap should be in on Monday /Tuesday I also gave in and ordered all new coilpacks . Fingers crossed 🙈
Today's update , installed new PCV vavle and new EGR valve.
Nothing changed , the evap should be in on Monday /Tuesday I also gave in and ordered all new coilpacks . Fingers crossed 🙈
09-06-2018, 09:54 PM
#95
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All the time and effort and expense of parts that you've expended so far could have been minimized by a $125 dealer diagnosis....
Have you tried calling the mechanic that you bought it from to ask him about the problem and/or the harness?
Have you tried calling the mechanic that you bought it from to ask him about the problem and/or the harness?
09-07-2018, 08:50 AM
#96
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Think throwing new coils in , good idea ?
09-13-2018, 10:08 PM
#97
Instructor
Update on my tl
k all
So I took my tl into the dealership and had them take a look at it . Said as per there scan , all is running inside of acra peramiters. But did say that they that there was indeed miss fires present.
Made the suggestion to replace the coil packs
Get timing belt done
If miss fire is still present then replace injectors, knock sensor, APP sensor.
Said that the AF sensor could be contributing to it too.
I really need some direction here guys . This is starting to be not funny any morany
is it possible for an AF sensor to be acting up causing these symptoms .
Cheers
So I took my tl into the dealership and had them take a look at it . Said as per there scan , all is running inside of acra peramiters. But did say that they that there was indeed miss fires present.
Made the suggestion to replace the coil packs
Get timing belt done
If miss fire is still present then replace injectors, knock sensor, APP sensor.
Said that the AF sensor could be contributing to it too.
I really need some direction here guys . This is starting to be not funny any morany
is it possible for an AF sensor to be acting up causing these symptoms .
Cheers
09-13-2018, 10:10 PM
#98
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Update
Did the coil packs today , nothing changed what so ever .
Picked up new AF sensor today , thinking of trying it on bank 1 and 2 see if ones on the way out and if that doesn't help things
Did the coil packs today , nothing changed what so ever .
Picked up new AF sensor today , thinking of trying it on bank 1 and 2 see if ones on the way out and if that doesn't help things
09-14-2018, 06:04 AM
#99
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Why in the world did you spend a fortune on coil packs when you've already proven it wasn't a coil pack?
Post the diagnosis sheet that the dealer gave you...
Post the diagnosis sheet that the dealer gave you...
09-14-2018, 07:12 AM
#101
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The dealership said that's were they would start with replacement of the coil packs , and if that did not solve anything than to continue with items that I listed
Yes will do
09-14-2018, 04:51 PM
#103
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What did the dealer say about the "fuel cap" message? This was an Acura dealer, correct?
09-14-2018, 07:36 PM
#104
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The fuel cap message has disappeared, that was on and off for a couple days then gone .
I will post now the reports from acura to view
Ty
09-14-2018, 07:41 PM
#105
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09-14-2018, 10:44 PM
#108
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Where is their written analysis?
Again, what dealer was this?
If that is the passenger right kick panel, that's the amp.
Again, what dealer was this?
If that is the passenger right kick panel, that's the amp.
09-14-2018, 10:46 PM
#109
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09-14-2018, 10:47 PM
#110
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09-14-2018, 10:50 PM
#111
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All I see is a bunch of numbers, I don't see any analysis/conclusion/recommendation...
09-14-2018, 11:06 PM
#112
Instructor
09-16-2018, 12:53 PM
#113
your tighten fuel cap msg is normal, can be easily fixed for 40 CAD, and that's the amplifier for the stock radio system. Not sure why they would need to access that area for diagnostic testing (not sure what other wiring is in that area). Also, that print out of their testing doesn't say anything about their findings, you might be better off getting an explanation from them. Unless there is a member on here who can decode those
09-16-2018, 09:57 PM
#114
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your tighten fuel cap msg is normal, can be easily fixed for 40 CAD, and that's the amplifier for the stock radio system. Not sure why they would need to access that area for diagnostic testing (not sure what other wiring is in that area). Also, that print out of their testing doesn't say anything about their findings, you might be better off getting an explanation from them. Unless there is a member on here who can decode those
I showed my brother tonight at dinner and he said well we now know that u have miss fires on cylinder 5 and 6 so work with that . He thinks possibly injectors?
Said buy two new ones and see what it does .
09-25-2018, 11:41 PM
#116
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Update on my type s
So took it in to a performance tuning shop today and had them preform a full leak down test and scan
ResultS are that the intake ,exhaust and coolant and solid .
the pistons on the other hand are said to be some what not good .
Now my problem has been from day one miss fire on cylinder 5and 6 no know cause what so ever to date .
Ironically both cylinder 5 and 6 are above the passable allowable limits for the test . Meaning they would not hold the compressed air , all others are within limits .
Now my question is is this even possible that these two cylinders are actually causing my issues ??
What I can't understand is I did a compression test and got great numbers , absolutely not blow by ie burning oil , and get Greta gas mileage.
It just doesn't add up for me .
Shop says just drive it , it runs strong minus the above
So took it in to a performance tuning shop today and had them preform a full leak down test and scan
ResultS are that the intake ,exhaust and coolant and solid .
the pistons on the other hand are said to be some what not good .
Now my problem has been from day one miss fire on cylinder 5and 6 no know cause what so ever to date .
Ironically both cylinder 5 and 6 are above the passable allowable limits for the test . Meaning they would not hold the compressed air , all others are within limits .
Now my question is is this even possible that these two cylinders are actually causing my issues ??
What I can't understand is I did a compression test and got great numbers , absolutely not blow by ie burning oil , and get Greta gas mileage.
It just doesn't add up for me .
Shop says just drive it , it runs strong minus the above
09-27-2018, 04:22 PM
#118
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Update on my type s
So took it in to a performance tuning shop today and had them preform a full leak down test and scan
ResultS are that the intake ,exhaust and coolant and solid .
the pistons on the other hand are said to be some what not good .
Now my problem has been from day one miss fire on cylinder 5and 6 no know cause what so ever to date .
Ironically both cylinder 5 and 6 are above the passable allowable limits for the test . Meaning they would not hold the compressed air , all others are within limits .
Now my question is is this even possible that these two cylinders are actually causing my issues ??
What I can't understand is I did a compression test and got great numbers , absolutely not blow by ie burning oil , and get Greta gas mileage.
It just doesn't add up for me .
Shop says just drive it , it runs strong minus the above
So took it in to a performance tuning shop today and had them preform a full leak down test and scan
ResultS are that the intake ,exhaust and coolant and solid .
the pistons on the other hand are said to be some what not good .
Now my problem has been from day one miss fire on cylinder 5and 6 no know cause what so ever to date .
Ironically both cylinder 5 and 6 are above the passable allowable limits for the test . Meaning they would not hold the compressed air , all others are within limits .
Now my question is is this even possible that these two cylinders are actually causing my issues ??
What I can't understand is I did a compression test and got great numbers , absolutely not blow by ie burning oil , and get Greta gas mileage.
It just doesn't add up for me .
Shop says just drive it , it runs strong minus the above
In what way?
Sounds like bent valves causing the leak to me, probably from an over rev. And that would really suck, because if it was over revved by the previous owner, he certainly was aware when it happened...
You're going to have to pull the bank 2 head to know for sure....
09-27-2018, 08:50 PM
#119
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"The pistons on the other hand are said to be some what not good.."
In what way?
Sounds like bent valves causing the leak to me, probably from an over rev. And that would really suck, because if it was over revved by the previous owner, he certainly was aware when it happened...
You're going to have to pull the bank 2 head to know for sure....
In what way?
Sounds like bent valves causing the leak to me, probably from an over rev. And that would really suck, because if it was over revved by the previous owner, he certainly was aware when it happened...
You're going to have to pull the bank 2 head to know for sure....
the summary is . The top end is sound ( intake and exhaust ).
Coolant is sound ie head gasket is good .
the test on the cylinders found that 1,2,3,4 are all with in limits . 5and 6 are slightly over the limits when it come to blow by the piston rings , ie air could be heard coming out of the oil cap.
My question is, with that information would this cause my miss fires ?
09-27-2018, 09:10 PM
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as I mentioned my car went in for a leak down test witch will indicate, a bent valve ie not seating right.
the summary is . The top end is sound ( intake and exhaust ).
Coolant is sound ie head gasket is good .
the test on the cylinders found that 1,2,3,4 are all with in limits . 5and 6 are slightly over the limits when it come to blow by the piston rings , ie air could be heard coming out of the oil cap.
My question is, with that information would this cause my miss fires ?
the summary is . The top end is sound ( intake and exhaust ).
Coolant is sound ie head gasket is good .
the test on the cylinders found that 1,2,3,4 are all with in limits . 5and 6 are slightly over the limits when it come to blow by the piston rings , ie air could be heard coming out of the oil cap.
My question is, with that information would this cause my miss fires ?