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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Help...can't get my front rotors off...

Hey Everyone...I just got new pads and rotors for my '06 TL with Brembo's and started with the left front. Everything is typical until I try to remove the 2 screws in the base of the rotor. Does anyone know if these are right hand or left hand thread or if the have loc-tite on them from the factory? I don't want to torque to hard before I know the answer.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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They follow the same lefty loosy righty tighty that you're used to

Problem is most people will try and use a regular old screwdriver, which usually just strips them. An impact screwdriver is your best friend at this point. If you don't have that, use a hammer and chisel. Trust me, that works about 98% of the time (and it's my personal choice at work, believe it or not...)

If you mess them up taking them off, don't worry, they aren't needed when you reinstall everything. Are they "supposed" to be there? Will you crash and die without them? Good luck with the rest of your install
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Thanks 239...much appreciated!
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Right! Impact Driver.

Seems to help to give 'em on or two solid whacks in the "tight" direction, then reverse the driver and give a few hard whacks in the "loose" direction. Use the correct size impact bit - ? #4, I think. Should come right out.

If they strip Drill the heads and pop 'em off when you take the rotor off. Forget 'em and move on.


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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Right! Impact Driver.

Seems to help to give 'em on or two solid whacks in the "tight" direction, then reverse the driver and give a few hard whacks in the "loose" direction. Use the correct size impact bit - ? #4, I think. Should come right out.

If they strip Drill the heads and pop 'em off when you take the rotor off. Forget 'em and move on.


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I tore 3 bits using the impact driver, I eventually drilled them out. Damn retention screws! The reason they are on there is to secure the rotors during the assembly process. The wheel is what locks the rotor on the hub so you don't need them, but if you put them back on.. put some anti-seize on them.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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I have always drilled those screws out and never had a problem. If you can't get them out then don't waste too much time, just drill
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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I saw a machanic use a screw driver and whacked it with a hammer a few times to loosen it up. Worked great!
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
I saw a machanic use a screw driver and whacked it with a hammer a few times to loosen it up. Worked great!

Tried and failed. It must have been a newer TL you saw. I would go ahead and spend $10 to get an impact driver at AutoZone or your preferred shop. Otherwise skip the drama and drill the top out. You only have to drill enough to pry the remaining head of the screw out.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Tried and failed. It must have been a newer TL you saw. I would go ahead and spend $10 to get an impact driver at AutoZone or your preferred shop. Otherwise skip the drama and drill the top out. You only have to drill enough to pry the remaining head of the screw out.
Actually it was on my old 04 TSX.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
Actually it was on my old 04 TSX.
Correct me if I'm wrong b/c I've never owned a TSX, but I think the difference is the rotors on the TL are prone to warp due to overheating. I believe the retention screws being exposed to the higher heat transferring from rotor surface to hub is causing the screws to lock up. So I would guess the TSX rotors would endure less wear / heat cycles and wouldn't lock up as bad as on the 3G TL. Just a thought.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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wacking it should help, I just swapped out mine yest and it worked fine



I did the six speed brembo swap and 3 whacks did wonders
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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corrosion makes them stick on tight--the impact screwdriver is better than a plain screwdriver since it applifies the hammer hit and makes it impact the screw with a twist motion--hit it twice in the right tight direction and then left loosen
Some wd type spray before helps

Have personally worked on 2 year old TL's with severly stuck screws, and the rotors felt like they were welded on!!
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
corrosion makes them stick on tight--the impact screwdriver is better than a plain screwdriver since it applifies the hammer hit and makes it impact the screw with a twist motion--hit it twice in the right tight direction and then left loosen
Some wd type spray before helps

Have personally worked on 2 year old TL's with severly stuck screws, and the rotors felt like they were welded on!!
I thought it would be corrosion / rust as well but when I looked under the head of the screw and on the threads I didn't see very much corrosion. The hub is another story. Whatever it is.. it's good preperation for crank pulley removal.. HEAVE!
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