Clutch Pedal Noise
04-03-2012, 08:47 PM
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Clutch Pedal Noise
I have an 06 6MT and recently my clutch pedal is making a creaking noise when I engage it, almost like it needs to be greased. Any ideas? I don't like it.
04-04-2012, 07:09 AM
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I wrote up something on this a few years ago. Basically, you need to remove the bottom plastic dash cover which allows you to easily access the pedal and its swivel connection and clutch rod. Get a spray can of white lithium grease and carefully spray it on the rod where it goes through the rubber boot on the firewall, and the springs on the swivel connection. Then check it and close up everything.
It shouldn't take you more than ten minutes.
It shouldn't take you more than ten minutes.
04-04-2012, 09:01 AM
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Today it is not doing it and the car seems to be driving smoother. Was doing a crappy start off and real sensitive on the on/off throttle. I'm starting to think is the Cclutch master cylinder.
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04-10-2012, 03:46 PM
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Don't bother replacing the Clutch Master Cylinder. Just grease it, had mine replaced twice and still made the same creaking noise. What a waste of money.
Did some research and I guess it happens to most Honda/Acura models that are 2004 and up. Complaints from the Accord, TSX and TL forums.
Quality of Honda parts isn't what it used to be.
Did some research and I guess it happens to most Honda/Acura models that are 2004 and up. Complaints from the Accord, TSX and TL forums.
Quality of Honda parts isn't what it used to be.
04-10-2012, 09:41 PM
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Had the exact same issue when I bought my 2005 back in December 04. They finally fixed it, but it took about three trips for them to finally get it right. I believe it's doing it again, but I have gotten used to it now.
04-12-2012, 10:55 AM
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I had this same problem and really before replacing any parts you should probably investigate the source yourself before assuming it's the master cylinder. I wrote up my experience in this thread a little while ago https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/creaky-sound-clutch-pedal-721392/
Every time I would press the pedal down and release, the return assistance spring would move or I should say pop. The spring rotates within the assembly, but every time I heard the noise I noticed the spring would shift, such as it was flexing to much or not enough. The spring was obviously weakened from the constant use since after I replaced it the noise was gone and I could feel a slight difference in pressure making for a better feel.
Here is the part number 46907-SDP-A01. The grease points are the spring, the bushings and/or if you want the plunger for the master cylinder. If you replace the master cylinder it is recommended to also replace the slave cylinder.
The assembly looks similar to this from the accord
Parts diagram
Every time I would press the pedal down and release, the return assistance spring would move or I should say pop. The spring rotates within the assembly, but every time I heard the noise I noticed the spring would shift, such as it was flexing to much or not enough. The spring was obviously weakened from the constant use since after I replaced it the noise was gone and I could feel a slight difference in pressure making for a better feel.
Here is the part number 46907-SDP-A01. The grease points are the spring, the bushings and/or if you want the plunger for the master cylinder. If you replace the master cylinder it is recommended to also replace the slave cylinder.
The assembly looks similar to this from the accord
Parts diagram
04-12-2012, 11:06 AM
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Just a word of caution if you remove the assembly, there is a nut behind part number 3 on the plunger. This adjusts the pedal height and may alter the engagement point. Removing the assembly takes about 10 minutes with the right tools, but installing the new spring can be a PTA. Removing the spring is easy, but it will pop and fly across the room.
04-17-2012, 11:20 AM
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This is a known problem on 3g TL's and TL Type-S, maybe others... I had a popping clutch pedal. Dealer replaced the pedal with a new unit (I know this because I worked for Acura dealership at the time) and it still did the same thing. There is now a bulletin that states it is the clutch master cylinder. There is a mis-manufacturing problem where the input shaft in the master cylinder is a little too long and it binds causing a pop. They replaced the master cylinder under the bulletin and haven't had a problem yet.
04-17-2012, 07:05 PM
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Vroooooom....Vrooooooom!!
Had the same issue about a year ago. Greased the hell out of all parts of the clutch pedal/assembly, shaft etc ... with no luck. Finally gave up, took it to the dealer and wound up replacing the clutch master cyclinder. Noise went away completely and hasn't returned. Fingers crossed that it doesn't.
Good luck man, hopefully greasing will solve your problem though.
Good luck man, hopefully greasing will solve your problem though.
08-09-2012, 09:26 PM
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Sounds like it could be 2 separate issues here...I'll start with the spring and greasing that. I used to be able to inject molykote grease into my master cylinder shaft and stop the noise for a month at a time...(or maybe me holding the pedal up and out of the way for a few minutes with my old CLUB was putting a little tension back on the spring?)
Lately though...after a day or 2 the noise comes back. I need to block off and see if the sound might be coming from the spring assembly. I hope so...it's a $10 part.
If not, master cylinder, here I come. I had to change the slave 3 years ago already due to a failed O-ring.
As per usual, thank you Acurazine for coming through for a solution!
Lately though...after a day or 2 the noise comes back. I need to block off and see if the sound might be coming from the spring assembly. I hope so...it's a $10 part.
If not, master cylinder, here I come. I had to change the slave 3 years ago already due to a failed O-ring.
As per usual, thank you Acurazine for coming through for a solution!
08-10-2012, 05:51 AM
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rockstar...TSB. mine is squeaky/creaky all the time. my dealer is going to see if they can get it covered/goodwilled by acura (this was after a failed attmept to grease it, like immediately after when they did it). it's stupid. the TSB comes out in 2011. it covers all of the 04-08 MT...meanwhile anyone with an 04-06 is more than likely out of warranty when the TSB says it's covered under normal warranty. 
hence my dealer helping me out...i just need to get the car back to them so they can get it taken care of.
hence my dealer helping me out...i just need to get the car back to them so they can get it taken care of.
09-19-2012, 10:13 AM
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As an update to this thread, since I just remembered!
I replaced the clutch pedal assist spring and it immediately did NOTHING for the creaking/squeaking I was getting from the clutch. THEN, I used that same HONDA high temp UREA grease that I bought to lube up the spring, put it into a big plastic syringe and injected a good amount of that into the hole in master cylinder where the push rod from the pedal goes through (while pressed down) and what do you know. I have not had a squeak or noise since. that stuff is bomb...
Total silence for almost 2 months now...
I figured if replacing the master was NOT solving the problem for most people, that it was probably an overkill Acura solution without actually diagnosing the PROBLEM itself.
I replaced the clutch pedal assist spring and it immediately did NOTHING for the creaking/squeaking I was getting from the clutch. THEN, I used that same HONDA high temp UREA grease that I bought to lube up the spring, put it into a big plastic syringe and injected a good amount of that into the hole in master cylinder where the push rod from the pedal goes through (while pressed down) and what do you know. I have not had a squeak or noise since. that stuff is bomb...
Total silence for almost 2 months now...
I figured if replacing the master was NOT solving the problem for most people, that it was probably an overkill Acura solution without actually diagnosing the PROBLEM itself.
09-19-2012, 07:27 PM
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^^the problem the dealer said was that the push rod was too long and rubbed which caused teh creaky squeak.
i had master clutch cylinder replaced and it's nice and quiet like it should be. my dealer was able to get half of it goodwilled for me. they initially tried lubing everything down there when i took it to them...it was quiet for a the short time they drove the car from the service bay to the front lot. as soon as i got back to the car to leave...SQUEAK. so i went with the TSB (they already knew about the problem as being common) to get it fixed finally.
i had master clutch cylinder replaced and it's nice and quiet like it should be. my dealer was able to get half of it goodwilled for me. they initially tried lubing everything down there when i took it to them...it was quiet for a the short time they drove the car from the service bay to the front lot. as soon as i got back to the car to leave...SQUEAK.
so i went with the TSB (they already knew about the problem as being common) to get it fixed finally.
09-19-2012, 09:00 PM
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^^the problem the dealer said was that the push rod was too long and rubbed which caused teh creaky squeak.
i had master clutch cylinder replaced and it's nice and quiet like it should be. my dealer was able to get half of it goodwilled for me. they initially tried lubing everything down there when i took it to them...it was quiet for a the short time they drove the car from the service bay to the front lot. as soon as i got back to the car to leave...SQUEAK. so i went with the TSB (they already knew about the problem as being common) to get it fixed finally.
i had master clutch cylinder replaced and it's nice and quiet like it should be. my dealer was able to get half of it goodwilled for me. they initially tried lubing everything down there when i took it to them...it was quiet for a the short time they drove the car from the service bay to the front lot. as soon as i got back to the car to leave...SQUEAK.
so i went with the TSB (they already knew about the problem as being common) to get it fixed finally.
LOL...naw, I've tried many different greases and molykote and silicone spray and wd40 and all of them lasted for different periods of time. All of them worked for a while, then it came back. And recently it was coming back MUCH more quickly. BUT, that said, after adding the actual honda grease, NADA in almost 2 months. That's a record. If I have to add some grease every 3 or 4 months, I can live with that, rather than change a master cylinder that isn't bad yet.
Also, I'd be changing it myself.
09-20-2012, 05:59 AM
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Well that right there might have been my problem, then...I only tried lubing the master cylinder shaft, not "everything down there"
LOL...naw, I've tried many different greases and molykote and silicone spray and wd40 and all of them lasted for different periods of time. All of them worked for a while, then it came back. And recently it was coming back MUCH more quickly. BUT, that said, after adding the actual honda grease, NADA in almost 2 months. That's a record. If I have to add some grease every 3 or 4 months, I can live with that, rather than change a master cylinder that isn't bad yet.
Also, I'd be changing it myself.
LOL...naw, I've tried many different greases and molykote and silicone spray and wd40 and all of them lasted for different periods of time. All of them worked for a while, then it came back. And recently it was coming back MUCH more quickly. BUT, that said, after adding the actual honda grease, NADA in almost 2 months. That's a record. If I have to add some grease every 3 or 4 months, I can live with that, rather than change a master cylinder that isn't bad yet.
Also, I'd be changing it myself.
i here ya on the DIY. the part runs about $130-140 i think. so really i only paid for the part and a little bit of labor at my dealer. i'm sure the acura techs used their special honda grease...it last about 5 minutes!
09-20-2012, 08:06 AM
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...it's cheaper to keep her! 
plus, mine is paid off...I'm rocking this baby till the wheels fall off! Even if I ever get another weekend car.
Bruce...give the high temp urea honda grease a shot.
Then get a couple of these:
So far, so good.
TLGIRL...I'm glad you know me well enough to expect it!
Well, to be honest, the application of the grease I used isn't what's MEANT to be used. I bought it to lube up the edges of the clutch pedal spring. It comes in a tub that isn't meant to be injected into the clutch. I would BET MY LIFE that the acura techs didn't think up a syringe. I bet they used a spray can of lithium grease, which does coat things, but not very tenaciously. Trust me, this grease went in, and you could hear it fill the cavity and it's been smooth sailing for quite some time.
I'm not saying I wouldn't mind having a new master, but I'd rather not have to change it if it's not leaking. Not just for a friggin annoying creak. It's $90 for the part.
plus, mine is paid off...I'm rocking this baby till the wheels fall off! Even if I ever get another weekend car.
Bruce...give the high temp urea honda grease a shot.
Then get a couple of these:
So far, so good.
TLGIRL...I'm glad you know me well enough to expect it!
Well, to be honest, the application of the grease I used isn't what's MEANT to be used. I bought it to lube up the edges of the clutch pedal spring. It comes in a tub that isn't meant to be injected into the clutch. I would BET MY LIFE that the acura techs didn't think up a syringe. I bet they used a spray can of lithium grease, which does coat things, but not very tenaciously. Trust me, this grease went in, and you could hear it fill the cavity and it's been smooth sailing for quite some time.
I'm not saying I wouldn't mind having a new master, but I'd rather not have to change it if it's not leaking. Not just for a friggin annoying creak. It's $90 for the part.
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^^well after i put thought into it...figuring i would keep the car for along time...i said why the hell not for some peace and quiet. little stuff like this bugs me esp if it's a part of the car that will continue to be "stepped on".
in my mind if somethings rubbing, then it'll eventually wear. who knows with this piece what the long term consequences are aside from hearing it creak all the time. certainly i see where you're coming from...i just hate noises that aren't suppose to be there. if i was getting rid of the car...different story.
in my mind if somethings rubbing, then it'll eventually wear. who knows with this piece what the long term consequences are aside from hearing it creak all the time. certainly i see where you're coming from...i just hate noises that aren't suppose to be there. if i was getting rid of the car...different story.
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