Check Engine P0171 P0174?!
#41
The way I reason it is if you have two banks lean and they're truly lean, it's something that most liklely affects every cylinder. Injectors are out, all 6 are not bad/clogged.
Odds are very slim that both 02s went out at the same time so rule them out for now.
Fuel pressure (pump or regulator) are the primary suspects. Nothing else will cause every cylinder to go lean.
As for the injectors, the only true way to test is to pull them off and put them on a flow bench.
Odds are very slim that both 02s went out at the same time so rule them out for now.
Fuel pressure (pump or regulator) are the primary suspects. Nothing else will cause every cylinder to go lean.
As for the injectors, the only true way to test is to pull them off and put them on a flow bench.
#43
Team Owner
Yo IHC great post brother however I do know of a few things that can cause both banks to run lean some you probably would never suspect. A bad or cracked pcv valve or leaking hose, a leaking power booster seen it with my own eyes, and yes a leaking intake in the right spot can and will make you lose enough volume across both banks to set these codes its crazy but Ive seen it.
#44
Which O2 sensor did you change?
Which O2 sensor did you change? Did the codes ever come back? My 06 just threw a P0174 today. I cleared it, and I'm going to run through this tank of gas before I do anything else. Are the O2 sensors easy to access and replace for a DIYer?
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#45
Advanced
My 04 MT threw po174 then came off... couple days later both po174 and po171 came on.. waiting on the snow to stop and will check for vacume leaks. A Azine member Vlad_Type_S pointed out a software update. If its the o2 sensor, which one is it? How many o2 sensors does our cars have?
#47
Intermediate
Hey whats up I know this is an old thread but I got 3 codes p0401, p0174, and p0171 at the same time!
I have cleaned the erg twice now and i have done the seafoam treatments besides the oil part and every other tank( for the month) of gas I put seafoam
now the codes keep going away on their own and then like two days later they come back but last night I pulled the codes and I only got the p0401 does this mean I have to buy a new erg valve since I didnt get the two other codes? Thanks for any info
I have cleaned the erg twice now and i have done the seafoam treatments besides the oil part and every other tank( for the month) of gas I put seafoam
now the codes keep going away on their own and then like two days later they come back but last night I pulled the codes and I only got the p0401 does this mean I have to buy a new erg valve since I didnt get the two other codes? Thanks for any info
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Timstandupguy (07-13-2014)
#49
Intermediate
i wrote on this like last year. all those solutions to that problems i tryed i got the map sensor change out bank 1 and i also go an pgm update. but what solved my problem was an valve adjustment the valves were a tap bit loose that was enough to release the emission a bit then cause the other codes to trip. i did that at 57k now am at 90k and no check engine light hit. i wanted to refuse to believe that the valve adjustment was needed because i thought the dealer was trying to jerk me but. i had a few ppl with the same car that told me that its the valves fellas get that check out. your gas mileage will improve slightly.
other problems i had was that tighten gas cap fix that the dealer replace it with a new pcv valve. the other one was made in mexico so it was defective the new part was japanese made so you know that went will
then that map senosr i replace when that p0171 show up
valve adjustment and pgm update
other problems i had was that tighten gas cap fix that the dealer replace it with a new pcv valve. the other one was made in mexico so it was defective the new part was japanese made so you know that went will
then that map senosr i replace when that p0171 show up
valve adjustment and pgm update
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mang03 (07-13-2014)
#51
Team Owner
i wrote on this like last year. all those solutions to that problems i tryed i got the map sensor change out bank 1 and i also go an pgm update. but what solved my problem was an valve adjustment the valves were a tap bit loose that was enough to release the emission a bit then cause the other codes to trip. i did that at 57k now am at 90k and no check engine light hit. i wanted to refuse to believe that the valve adjustment was needed because i thought the dealer was trying to jerk me but. i had a few ppl with the same car that told me that its the valves fellas get that check out. your gas mileage will improve slightly.
other problems i had was that tighten gas cap fix that the dealer replace it with a new pcv valve. the other one was made in mexico so it was defective the new part was japanese made so you know that went will
then that map senosr i replace when that p0171 show up
valve adjustment and pgm update
other problems i had was that tighten gas cap fix that the dealer replace it with a new pcv valve. the other one was made in mexico so it was defective the new part was japanese made so you know that went will
then that map senosr i replace when that p0171 show up
valve adjustment and pgm update
#53
Race Director
Very hard for me to believe that a valve adjustment fixed Timstandupguy's issue, especially with only 57K on the engine. It's certainly possible, but I really doubt it.
And the same thing for Mang03. Unless you have a ton of miles on the engine, I really doubt a valve adjustment will do anything for you.
And the same thing for Mang03. Unless you have a ton of miles on the engine, I really doubt a valve adjustment will do anything for you.
#55
Race Director
#56
Team Owner
Very hard for me to believe that a valve adjustment fixed Timstandupguy's issue, especially with only 57K on the engine. It's certainly possible, but I really doubt it.
And the same thing for Mang03. Unless you have a ton of miles on the engine, I really doubt a valve adjustment will do anything for you.
And the same thing for Mang03. Unless you have a ton of miles on the engine, I really doubt a valve adjustment will do anything for you.
#57
Intermediate
Ok if I take the intake off and clean the ports shown in the video do I need a gasket
And do I need to torque the intake back on? Sorry guys for all the question and thanks
And do I need to torque the intake back on? Sorry guys for all the question and thanks
#58
Race Director
Torque: You should, and there's a specific order listed in the SM. Do a search for the online SM link . Better yet, spend $50 and buy a SM. Well worth the money if you are going to continue maintaining the car yourself.
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mang03 (07-13-2014)
#59
Senior Moderator
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/check-fuel-cap-message-nav-well-mid-784101/
PCV issue causes the "Check Gas Cap" light to come on
#60
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i wrote on this like last year. all those solutions to that problems i tryed i got the map sensor change out bank 1 and i also go an pgm update. but what solved my problem was an valve adjustment the valves were a tap bit loose that was enough to release the emission a bit then cause the other codes to trip. i did that at 57k now am at 90k and no check engine light hit. i wanted to refuse to believe that the valve adjustment was needed because i thought the dealer was trying to jerk me but. i had a few ppl with the same car that told me that its the valves fellas get that check out. your gas mileage will improve slightly.
other problems i had was that tighten gas cap fix that the dealer replace it with a new pcv valve. the other one was made in mexico so it was defective the new part was japanese made so you know that went will
then that map senosr i replace when that p0171 show up
valve adjustment and pgm update
other problems i had was that tighten gas cap fix that the dealer replace it with a new pcv valve. the other one was made in mexico so it was defective the new part was japanese made so you know that went will
then that map senosr i replace when that p0171 show up
valve adjustment and pgm update
I got the P0171 and P0174 at the same time. PCM update. Both codes went away. I got a P0171 several weeks later. Cleared it and it came back. Took to dealer under warranty. They said I needed a valve adjustment and wanted me to fork over $600 bones even though I bought a warranty from them. I took it home, did the valve adjustment (nothing else, no parts replaced or cleaned or anything like that). Code never came back.
The repair manual specifies that performing a valve adjustment could resolve a P0171 or P0174 code, too.
I know most of you guys are saying that it's very unlikely, but now there are two good examples (plus the service manual) that show a valve adjustment could be the resolution to this problem.
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Timstandupguy (07-19-2014)
#61
Race Director
I got the P0171 and P0174 at the same time. PCM update. Both codes went away. I got a P0171 several weeks later. Cleared it and it came back. Took to dealer under warranty. They said I needed a valve adjustment and wanted me to fork over $600 bones even though I bought a warranty from them. I took it home, did the valve adjustment (nothing else, no parts replaced or cleaned or anything like that). Code never came back.
The repair manual specifies that performing a valve adjustment could resolve a P0171 or P0174 code, too.
I know most of you guys are saying that it's very unlikely, but now there are two good examples (plus the service manual) that show a valve adjustment could be the resolution to this problem.
The repair manual specifies that performing a valve adjustment could resolve a P0171 or P0174 code, too.
I know most of you guys are saying that it's very unlikely, but now there are two good examples (plus the service manual) that show a valve adjustment could be the resolution to this problem.
Glad you got it resolved though
#62
Intermediate
i got the Adjustment for 300 bucks flat. at 57k yes i did need the adjustment i try every step there was to delete that code p0171. the Acura Repair guide stated that the Valve adjustment is the last step to resolved my issue and it did work and at 90k im still free of that code and have no noticeable problems.
#63
Race Director
i got the Adjustment for 300 bucks flat. at 57k yes i did need the adjustment i try every step there was to delete that code p0171. the Acura Repair guide stated that the Valve adjustment is the last step to resolved my issue and it did work and at 90k im still free of that code and have no noticeable problems.
#64
Team Owner
IHC, he isn't completely crazy, but he definitely needs to proofread his posts, it's really hard to read.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784101
PCV issue causes the "Check Gas Cap" light to come on
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784101
PCV issue causes the "Check Gas Cap" light to come on
#65
you know you can buy a Launch Creader V for under $50 and it will go a LONG ways towards helping you diagnose problems via live data streaming. You plug that baby in and then take a look at the values that it is reading out for [insert sensor here]
that way you can look at the MAF readings and O2 sensors (all of them) and get an idea of what is up.
that way you can look at the MAF readings and O2 sensors (all of them) and get an idea of what is up.
#66
Registered Bike Offender
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Haha yes this is very true, that was a mistake, but I wasn't able to do anything about it anyway because I was too crunched for time and was using someone else's garage space.
However, my mistake in not cleaning it is a pretty good case study that the valve adjustment could resolve this DTC, since the valve adjustment is the only thing that was done and caused the code to disappear.
#67
Race Director
Haha yes this is very true, that was a mistake, but I wasn't able to do anything about it anyway because I was too crunched for time and was using someone else's garage space.
However, my mistake in not cleaning it is a pretty good case study that the valve adjustment could resolve this DTC, since the valve adjustment is the only thing that was done and caused the code to disappear.
However, my mistake in not cleaning it is a pretty good case study that the valve adjustment could resolve this DTC, since the valve adjustment is the only thing that was done and caused the code to disappear.
#68
Registered Bike Offender
iTrader: (3)
I was not smart enough to collect that data. But I recall almost all of them were out of spec. Some much worse than others, but I definitely adjusted each one. Not surprising considering the car had been running a regular conventional oil at a 5k/6k interval up to that point.
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