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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Chatter at Idle

I dont know if its normal or not, but I dont think it is. When my car is at running temp. and is just sitting still idling there is a slight chatter and it seems like its coming from the front passanger side wheel well. Chatter is the best I can discribe it, its not constant its like a pulse of six, over and over. Car runs great and I cant feel anything different. Anyhelp?
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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I have been experiencing something similar as well. I had the dealership check all the mounts - I told them I was feeling a rough idle. They supposedly checked the mounts and said everything is fine, but it still idles rough and the problem persists.

I'm going to probably take it back yet again to have them look at it, because it's certainly not normal. My father has a '99 3.2 TL and with 140,000 miles, it's much smoother than my '08 which has 11,400 miles. Go figure.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Crestwood1001
When my car is at running temp. and is just sitting still idling there is a slight chatter and it seems like its coming from the front passanger side wheel well. Chatter is the best I can discribe it...
Heat shield? There were some TSBs for adjusting the exhaust heat shields.
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I told them I was feeling a rough idle. They supposedly checked the mounts and said everything is fine, but it still idles rough and the problem persists.
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My father has a '99 3.2 TL and with 140,000 miles, it's much smoother than my '08 which has 11,400 miles. Go figure.
If the rough idle only occurs on cold starts, it's the ULEV system of the '08 and is normal; it helps warm up the engine and minimize emissions more quickly.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Hi guys i have an 07 TLS and it does it too...I believe its the tensioner on the main belt which is on the passenger side. It's annoying but doesn't change anything regarding performance. Next time you bring it in have them look at it...
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
Heat shield? There were some TSBs for adjusting the exhaust heat shields.

If the rough idle only occurs on cold starts, it's the ULEV system of the '08 and is normal; it helps warm up the engine and minimize emissions more quickly.
he's right about that!
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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I was just worried that it was somthing that could develop into a problem. Shes due for an oil change ill have them check it out.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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I was actually trying to research something very similar. I can hear and feel a mechanical tapping/vibration in my brake pedal when the car is in drive at a stop light. I have a 2005 TL automatic. If I put the car in neutral the tapping goes away.

It doesn't happen all the time. I took it to the mechanic yesterday and, naturally, they couldn't get the car to do it.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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I dont feel it at all its just noise, can someone get a link for the TSB's for the heat shield things. I was accually thinking thats what it was.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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I think I have the same noise. However, it rarely happens on idle, it's more when I am running through pot holes or rough surfaces.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Crestwood1001
I dont feel it at all its just noise, can someone get a link for the TSB's for the heat shield things. I was accually thinking thats what it was.
It's in the 3G Garage link to TSBs:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B07-026.PDF
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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I notice the chatter whenever I'm at a light and I don't have my music turned up. I had the dealer check it again for a 2nd time three days ago and they say it's normal - everything is fine. I still don't buy it.

It's not there in Park, Neutral, or in motion.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Have the dealer check this

Originally Posted by morgrar
I notice the chatter whenever I'm at a light and I don't have my music turned up. I had the dealer check it again for a 2nd time three days ago and they say it's normal - everything is fine. I still don't buy it.
Morgrar, my 08 TL has a similar pulsing 'Chirp' issue coming from the lower timing belt area at idle. The dealership is scheduled to perform TSB-08-031 next week. The procedure will install a tapered shim to align an idler pulley that is causing the timing belt to rub against the side of the drive pulley making the noise. They also replace your timing belt and drive pulley as part of the corrective action.

The TSB document has an embedded video clip with the sound so you can compare it to your issue:
http://www.in.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B08-031.pdf
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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My car is an 06, the service bulliten is for 04-05 but from the discription givin in the TSB it sounds the the EXACT problem so im going to print it and take it to the dealer when my car goes in on tuesday to have the rear sub. rattle fixed. Ill update with what they say, to but it nicely, i wont take no for an answer lol. And btw, I hear it at idle when in gear or in park and its only when the cars warmed up
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Crestwood1001
I dont know if its normal or not, but I dont think it is. When my car is at running temp. and is just sitting still idling there is a slight chatter and it seems like its coming from the front passanger side wheel well. Chatter is the best I can discribe it, its not constant its like a pulse of six, over and over. Car runs great and I cant feel anything different. Anyhelp?
It is normal for the valves to chatter with V-tec engines.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Its def not somthing normal, it never did it till recently and i printed the TSB and im taking it in. My car is in the VIN number range giving on the TSB so its the heat sheild
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Had it at the dealership and they ordered parts to fix it. Some kind of shim on the timing belt is bad.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Oracle_Oracle
Morgrar, my 08 TL has a similar pulsing 'Chirp' issue coming from the lower timing belt area at idle. The dealership is scheduled to perform TSB-08-031 next week. The procedure will install a tapered shim to align an idler pulley that is causing the timing belt to rub against the side of the drive pulley making the noise. They also replace your timing belt and drive pulley as part of the corrective action.

The TSB document has an embedded video clip with the sound so you can compare it to your issue:
http://www.in.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B08-031.pdf
Thanks for the link and the TSB, but unfortunately, mine doesn't make a "chirp" sound as seen in the video clip.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Take it to the dealer, they know what the problem is
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Took my 08 type s into dealership including the printed bulletin and they will install the shims for the noise issue I hear.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Thats what mines going for. Did it help?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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I'll let you know. They had to order parts and should get it back sometime today.
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