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Old 09-13-2010 | 09:40 PM
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anyone experience, premature timing belt failure?

NOT TRYING TO BRING ANYONE BAD LUCK!!!

Because I drive mine for a living, 150-200mi per day

I had a 80K belt fail at 75K (different car)

I just hit 100K in my 3G TL, your responses will determine if I get the service now or wait a month or two.
Old 09-13-2010 | 09:44 PM
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Don't recall seeing any reports for premature failure on a 3G. At least 2 folks have gone to around 133K before changing. I wouldn't stress over it and just change it when the MID tells you to (when you get a "4" on the MID).
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Don't recall seeing any reports for premature failure on a 3G. At least 2 folks have gone to around 133K before changing. I wouldn't stress over it and just change it when the MID tells you to (when you get a "4" on the MID).
I thought it was at the 105K mark? is it not?
if the timing belt change is at the 105k mark, then I would get it changed now as opposed to next month.
Old 09-13-2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I thought it was at the 105K mark? is it not?
if the timing belt change is at the 105k mark, then I would get it changed now as opposed to next month.
That is the "recommended" service. He was saying people have gone to that amount. Just like expiration dates on food, its always on the safer side and I wouldn't see a problem with him car going to 110-120k but I would get it done at 80k, but thats just me.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I thought it was at the 105K mark? is it not?
if the timing belt change is at the 105k mark, then I would get it changed now as opposed to next month.
I'm not at the 105 mark yet. I just hit 100K. I'll be at 105 in about a month. I will have it changed by 105K. not willing to push my luck
Old 09-13-2010 | 09:57 PM
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ya'll are right, I suppose one cant drive 5 thousand miles in less than a month.

or can they?
Old 09-14-2010 | 02:49 AM
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Scary part is there are many many people on the road who don't even know what a timing belt is, let alone replace it.
Old 09-14-2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
That is the "recommended" service. He was saying people have gone to that amount. Just like expiration dates on food, its always on the safer side and I wouldn't see a problem with him car going to 110-120k but I would get it done at 80k, but thats just me.
Actually, the "recommended" service is when the MID indicates so with a "4" and "Service due now". There is no official mileage associated with a timing belt change for 3G TLs, although most people are getting the "service due now" around 105-110K miles.
Old 09-14-2010 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tehvine
Scary part is there are many many people on the road who don't even know what a timing belt is, let alone replace it.
Yeah, theoretically, the MID is supposed to simplify and "idiot" proof some/most of the maintenance schedule. A nice orange message pops up with a number which the owner checks for in the manual and then takes in for service. That's how it's supposed to work....
Old 09-17-2010 | 05:10 PM
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Thats all I'm waiting for. Hopefully the MID doesnt tell me that its due in the middle of winter because I would sure hate to be doing this in the cold.
Old 09-17-2010 | 05:15 PM
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I'm at 104k right now And I'm doing my TB next weekend lol I too have wondering this same thing, glad you posted this thread OP
Old 09-17-2010 | 05:23 PM
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I'm at 104k right now And I'm doing my TB next weekend lol I too have wondering this same thing, glad you posted this thread OP
I can't remember if I asked you this in another thread...have you got the MID notice yet?
Old 09-17-2010 | 08:04 PM
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If you're doing mostly freeway miles, 105K is pretty conservative. You're spending the majority of your time at 2,000rpm and 70mph vs city with a higher average rpm and lower average mph. I would be willing to bet a mostly highway driven engine has turned half the number of revolutions as a city driven engine. There's also the time issue which is nearly as important as mileage.
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I have just over 101K, and the warning just came on, A14 was the message. A = oil change, 1 = tire rotation, and 4 = TB. I got the car at 70K, I 've driven it 65% H/way miles and mine came up early.
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Originally Posted by upnout
I have just over 101K, and the warning just came on, A14 was the message. A = oil change, 1 = tire rotation, and 4 = TB. I got the car at 70K, I 've driven it 65% H/way miles and mine came up early.
Well, at this point it's not yet due, correct? The message says "service due soon"? You still have probably have a few thousand miles before you get the "service due now" message, not that it really makes any difference. And again, it's all MID based, not mileage. Perhaps the previous owner had a different driving style which determined when the message appeared.

Edit: now that I think about it, as the car approaches 105K, I wonder if the MID matches the "4" interval with when the next "A"/"B" interval is due? In the past, what was your approximate mileage between oil change messages? How many miles since your last oil change? This may explain why you are getting the message at 101K.

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Old 09-19-2010 | 09:12 AM
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You have an 06 which is only 4 years old. I changed mine at 113k and mine is a 04. I think you'll be fine for at least another 20k miles. Just to be on the safe side you could do it at 110K. I would bet that you could get over 150k plus on the belt but that wouldn't be worth the risk.
Old 09-19-2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Well, at this point it's not yet due, correct? The message says "service due soon"? You still have probably have a few thousand miles before you get the "service due now" message, not that it really makes any difference. And again, it's all MID based, not mileage. Perhaps the previous owner had a different driving style which determined when the message appeared.

Edit: now that I think about it, as the car approaches 105K, I wonder if the MID matches the "4" interval with when the next "A"/"B" interval is due? In the past, what was your approximate mileage between oil change messages? How many miles since your last oil change? This may explain why you are getting the message at 101K.
yes, it does say due soon at 15%. I change my oil aprox every 5K about 5%. so i agree, service 4 came up to the closes A/B srvc w/out going over. I'm looking to do the srvc 4 in the next couple thousand miles, and the oil next weekend.
Old 09-20-2010 | 08:14 PM
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Mike, let me know who does it and for how much, please. I'm still about 30K out from mine. Just for my info only.
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BTW, theres a cruise at Shrewsbury this Friday and a few AZiners and I are going to the meet in Towson on Saturday, if you're interested. PM me.
Old 10-12-2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Mike, let me know who does it and for how much, please. I'm still about 30K out from mine. Just for my info only.
Thanks.
BTW, theres a cruise at Shrewsbury this Friday and a few AZiners and I are going to the meet in Towson on Saturday, if you're interested. PM me.
i am going to schedule my timing belt replacement in about a week. i have 101k miles on my car, alot of longer cruising and not alot of city driving. i am doing it sooner because prior to getting my '04 TL, i had a chrysler concorde. the timing belt was replaced at 85k miles when it started knocking, and then the car made it to 197k when that belt snapped and killed my engine.


anywho, the Acura dealer quoted me $1375 for timing belt / water pump replacement. out of curiousity i called a Honda dealer, and for the same service, they quoted me $675....HUGE markup at Acura for the same Honda parts :P
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I was under the assumption that 2007 Acura is equipped with a timing chain and not a belt . Hence not required to replace.

I owned a 2007 Accord 4 cyl and it was equipped with a timing chain...

However the waterpump needs to be changed and changing the timing belt/chain with the waterpump is more econimical ...

Please correct me if I am wrong
Old 10-12-2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuramybaby
I was under the assumption that 2007 Acura is equipped with a timing chain and not a belt . Hence not required to replace.

I owned a 2007 Accord 4 cyl and it was equipped with a timing chain...

However the waterpump needs to be changed and changing the timing belt/chain with the waterpump is more econimical ...

Please correct me if I am wrong
It's a belt.
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Originally Posted by Acuramybaby
I was under the assumption that 2007 Acura is equipped with a timing chain and not a belt . Hence not required to replace.

I owned a 2007 Accord 4 cyl and it was equipped with a timing chain...

However the waterpump needs to be changed and changing the timing belt/chain with the waterpump is more econimical ...

Please correct me if I am wrong
You are wrong. The TLs have a belt which should be replaced at 105k. For the 2007 Accords, only the 4-cylinder has a chain, the V6 Accord's have a belt just like the TL.
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You are wrong. The TLs have a belt which should be replaced at 105k. For the 2007 Accords, only the 4-cylinder has a chain, the V6 Accord's have a belt just like the TL.

Point Noted
Old 10-12-2010 | 04:17 PM
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hey guys since we are on the topic, what are all the parts needed for a timing belt service.

I got a water pump, timing belt, 2 pulleys and drive belt. What else do I need? In some threads there is a mention of a tensioner and it some there isn't, now I am confused.
Also, what is the estimated time on valve adjustment, I got quoted 500$ for 5 hours of labor, just for valve adjustment. Is that too much?
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Originally Posted by myron
hey guys since we are on the topic, what are all the parts needed for a timing belt service.

I got a water pump, timing belt, 2 pulleys and drive belt. What else do I need? In some threads there is a mention of a tensioner and it some there isn't, now I am confused.
Also, what is the estimated time on valve adjustment, I got quoted 500$ for 5 hours of labor, just for valve adjustment. Is that too much?
Look here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/122-diy-105k-service-timing-belt-water-pump-spark-plugs-thermostat-%2Apics%2A-784622/
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^^ myron I have those part #'s for everything you need, if you need them. I just did my TB Saturday. The hardest part on adjusting the valves is getting the rear cover off, not sure about time. 5 hours sounds like a bit too much IMO.
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
I can't remember if I asked you this in another thread...have you got the MID notice yet?
Negative and I'm at 105.5k. Didn't Majo say he got it around 107k?
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Mine came on around 108k.
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Originally Posted by AMUA6
^^ myron I have those part #'s for everything you need, if you need them. I just did my TB Saturday. The hardest part on adjusting the valves is getting the rear cover off, not sure about time. 5 hours sounds like a bit too much IMO.
no I don't need the part numbers, thanks tho. I got all the parts 60% off because of my dad's connection with parts store. I just didn't get a tensioner.

So you think it's bullshit that they want 500$ for valve adjustment? I have to call the dealership and ask them for a quote still. If they do it for the same money, then I'd rather take it there. But
Old 10-24-2010 | 09:43 AM
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I haven't had it towed yet, so no official diagnosis, but I think my belt just went in the driveway - talk about luck. You want premature? I have 46k miles on my 2006.
Old 10-28-2010 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat D
I haven't had it towed yet, so no official diagnosis, but I think my belt just went in the driveway - talk about luck. You want premature? I have 46k miles on my 2006.
at 46K, that doesn't sound right. my belt at 105K was still in good condition.
what's the verdict?
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Is there any way to know if the timing belt has been changed. Just purchased an '05 with 114K on it.

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Old 11-15-2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sollly
Is there any way to know if the timing belt has been changed. Just purchased an '05 with 114K on it.

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+1

i hear there can sometimes be a sticker under the hood or something
Old 11-15-2010 | 08:41 PM
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no way to tell, ask the previous owner is the only way. I've never seen a sticker that says when the T/belt was replaced.
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