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Old 07-20-2017 | 09:09 AM
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2006 Acura TL M/T randomly died while driving

Yesterday Morning I, was driving my 2006 Acura TL manual transmission with 186k miles. The car randomly just died while on the highway. Pulled over had it towed home checked the check engine light codes and came back with.

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P0340

-Pending codes are
P0154
P0134

After the car died, it just doesn't want to start. It turns over but doesn't start.

P0340, not sure if the car would shut down because of the crankshaft sensor going bad.

Any thoughts or where I should start? Charged the battery and it is fine. When I tried to spray some starting fluid I noticed that the throttle body is not opening when I push on the gas.

Not 100% sure but if I remember correctly all the dash lights came on when it turned off.

Thanks for the help in advanced!
Old 07-20-2017 | 09:17 AM
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if crankshaft sensor is bad, car will shut off. or stall
Old 07-20-2017 | 09:23 AM
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How's your positive battery terminal?
Old 07-20-2017 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
if crankshaft sensor is bad, car will shut off. or stall
Might want to give this a go.

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How's your positive battery terminal?
Looks fine no corrosion or anything
Old 07-20-2017 | 09:34 AM
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the crankshaft is what spin in the block. if sensor isnt reading correctly, crankshaft wont spin...car wont turn on
Old 07-20-2017 | 09:37 AM
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Looks fine no corrosion or anything
Are you sure? Try replacing the + battery cable. At this age its likely corroded internally. I had to replace mine last year.
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Old 07-20-2017 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the crankshaft is what spin in the block. if sensor isnt reading correctly, crankshaft wont spin...car wont turn on
Do you happen to know where the sensor is?
my OBD reader says its.

Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Bank 1 or Single Sensor.
Old 07-20-2017 | 09:43 AM
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Are you sure? Try replacing the + battery cable. At this age its likely corroded internally. I had to replace mine last year.
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I'll have another look at it.
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
Pulled over had it towed home checked the check engine light codes and came back with.

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P0340

P0340, not sure if the car would shut down because of the crankshaft sensor going bad.
OP, when I search that code for your '06 TL-S6 I come back with 'Camshaft Position Sensor No Signal'. You may want to double check the code accuracy again.

https://www.engine-codes.com/p0340_acura.html


#14 on the link below is the Camshaft TDC sensor for your TL-S6
https://www.acuraoemparts.com/auto-p...er=37840pgea11


Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
-Pending codes are
P0154
P0134

Any thoughts or where I should start?
This thread has info on the above codes:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...006-tl-884225/
Old 07-20-2017 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the crankshaft is what spin in the block. if sensor isnt reading correctly, crankshaft wont spin...car wont turn on
I always thought if you prevented the crankshaft from spinning the car would rotate around the axis of the main bearings. Maybe I've over thought the process.
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Originally Posted by zeta
OP, when I search that code for your '06 TL-S6 I come back with 'Camshaft Position Sensor No Signal'. You may want to double check the code accuracy again.

https://www.engine-codes.com/p0340_acura.html


#14 on the link below is the Camshaft TDC sensor for your TL-S6
https://www.acuraoemparts.com/auto-p...er=37840pgea11




This thread has info on the above codes:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...006-tl-884225/
Thanks man I called the Acura Dealer to get the part number they gave me 37840-PGE-A11. #14 Is the correct sensor. Placed the order for the sensor now I need to wait for it. By any chance do you think I will have to remove the timing belt to get to the sensor? Because in the in schematics it looks like I do.
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
Thanks man I called the Acura Dealer to get the part number they gave me 37840-PGE-A11. #14 Is the correct sensor. Placed the order for the sensor now I need to wait for it. By any chance do you think I will have to remove the timing belt to get to the sensor? Because in the in schematics it looks like I do.
Yes.

If the TDC Sensor replacement repair procedure for your '06TL-S6 is similar to the '03CL-S6 (that's what I drive) you or your mechanic will have to remove the TB and the appropriate cam gear to get at it for replacement. The attachment below should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect, keep in mind though, that the TDC Sensor replacement on the attachment is for an '03CL-S6.

Good Luck!
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Old 07-30-2017 | 09:00 AM
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Just want to post on what the problem was. So that if anyone ever googles and finds this.

The timing belt on the car broke and the car is now running again just fine.
Old 07-30-2017 | 09:52 AM
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Is it running, or running good?

Im surprised that engine survived broken belt, and cranking.
Old 07-30-2017 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
Just want to post on what the problem was. So that if anyone ever googles and finds this.

The timing belt on the car broke and the car is now running again just fine.
Holy hell, how did it not trash the engine?? If the engine wasn't trashed when it broke, how did it survive subsequent beating when you tried to crank it with the starter? Something isn't right here.

Had the timing belt ever been replaced before?
Old 07-30-2017 | 10:26 AM
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When I accidentally forgot to install the little pin to the crank pulley and tried to crank, the engine instantly seized
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
Just want to post on what the problem was. So that if anyone ever googles and finds this.

The timing belt on the car broke and the car is now running again just fine.
Glad to hear you got your car running again, but the diagnosis doesn't seem right. Interference engines don't normally do well after the timing belt breaks.

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Is it running, or running good?

Im surprised that engine survived broken belt, and cranking.
Agreed +1

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Holy hell, how did it not trash the engine?? If the engine wasn't trashed when it broke, how did it survive subsequent beating when you tried to crank it with the starter? Something isn't right here.

Had the timing belt ever been replaced before?
Agreed +2
Old 07-30-2017 | 05:19 PM
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I have to agree with the last posts. No way the timing belt broke and didnt trash the valves at least. Anyway at least he got it running again.
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Yes car is running as it should right before the belt broke off. Now before this happens again, I need to get the timing belt done on my other M/T 2006 Acura TL. On the TL that the belt broke off I don't know if it was ever changed, as I got it when it had 140k so I would assume they didn't. Sense the belt didn't last up to 200k I'm surprised myself it survived
Old 08-01-2017 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
Yes car is running as it should right before the belt broke off. Now before this happens again, I need to get the timing belt done on my other M/T 2006 Acura TL. On the TL that the belt broke off I don't know if it was ever changed, as I got it when it had 140k so I would assume they didn't. Sense the belt didn't last up to 200k I'm surprised myself it survived
you seem to be missing the point. Broken timing belt = crushed valves. Did you see the broken timing belt? As in did the mechanic call you into the mechanics bay and go "here's your problem!"
Old 08-01-2017 | 07:58 AM
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If the timing belt broke and the engine was spun, some of the valves at a minimum tapped the top of the pistons. Some people it is very obvious immediately and their engines run rough or have a miss....for others, the oddities don't show up for a little while longer...but they do show up. A bent valve is a bent valve...it will eventually cause some issues.
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You guys were correct, Do you guys know if the A/T Acura TL motor will work fine with a M/T Acura TL
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You guys were correct, Do you guys know if the A/T Acura TL motor will work fine with a M/T Acura TL
It's doable but not plug and play.
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
You guys were correct....
Huh? What? It finally cratered?
Old 08-01-2017 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MadeYouReadThis
You guys were correct, Do you guys know if the A/T Acura TL motor will work fine with a M/T Acura TL
the motor is identical except for one small breather valve that runs accross the engine that is easily swapped and maybe the wire harness too. Watch Eric the Car Guy's 3 or 4 part video on the 3.2TL engine swap, he does a A/T & M/T swap. Find a new mechanic because he should not have done a timing belt job on a busted belt.

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Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME
It's doable but not plug and play.
it is plug and play.
i'm rocking an auto engine in my 6MT.
mechanic will just have to plug up extra coolant lines...
Old 08-02-2017 | 10:21 AM
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Anyone by any chance know a good mechanic out in the Bay Area Of California. It's hard to find a good trustworthy mechanic.
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Check Yelp

or read through threads here for suggestions: https://acurazine.com/forums/norcal-309/
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it is plug and play.
i'm rocking an auto engine in my 6MT.
mechanic will just have to plug up extra coolant lines...
Maybe I was confused with an AV6 swap?




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