'03 CL Flywheel vs '05 TL Flywheel

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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'03 CL Flywheel vs '05 TL Flywheel

I am in the process of having my clutch replaced and have to replace the flywheel as well. I'm not willing to pay the $570 the dealer wants to charge so I've found it on carolinaclutch.com for ~$330 after shipping (LUK part #DMF062).

My questions is whether or not I can use the flywheel for the '03 CL which is part number DMF063. They are both dual mass and the reason I am wondering is that there is a small blurb on the 062 page that says "Special Notes: can use DMF063."

I've looked up the engineering drawings for both parts on oemacuraparts.com and the images look identical. Obviously, that's not nearly enough to go on so I'm looking for any input on this.

Acura lists the respective part numbers as 2003 ACURA CL (22100-PGE-026) and 2005 ACURA TL (22100-RCA-006).

I need to know asap cause my car is on racks at the stealership right now.

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Jeff

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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I believe the CL-S flywheel is the same except that it also has a pick-up ring for the crank sensor, which the TL doesn't use. There is no functional difference between the two.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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it works. I have one in my car. its slightly heavier but nothing too crazy. FYI stealership won't put in the CL-S flywheel unless you sign some papers saying that there not responsible for damage to your car.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Gwiffer you know anything about whether or not the pick-up ring will effect the feel/performance of the clutch?

Aznboi how long have you had it in your car? What car do you drive? How has your clutch held up against this flywheel? Can you explain what you mean by "it's slightly heavier?" Do you just mean your clutch pedal requires more force?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:30 PM
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I had it on my car since July 2012, I drive an accord 06 v6 (we share the same flywheel and clutch), Clutch and flywheel drive normal. 0 chatter and all bite, Its slight heavier as in weight. Its a few Oz heavier due to the pick up bars. It goes all away around the flywheel and adds some weight. Pedal force is the same, pedal force is controlled by the pressure plate anyways.

In short it works as long as your not a type-s

fyi why you are breaking in the clutch the pedal is going to engage lower then what it usually is like 1/4 - 1/2 off the floor. Drive it for 500-1000 miles and then rebleed the system and it should return to where it normally engage which is like 3/4 off the ground or so.

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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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You're the man, thanks for getting back to me. My car is not type-s, however I had a dealer tell me that because they did not make a type-s in '05 that all of the 6MT editions are considered sport/type-s. I suspect this does not matter in this case, and that the CL flywheel will work for me the same as you, but do you have any thoughts on this?

Thanks a lot for the tip on breaking in the clutch. Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean "rebleed the system"? Do you mean do a MTF flush?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Just talked to the guy at Carolina Clutch... he told me that the CL flywheel does NOT have a pickup for the crank position sensor, which he claims both the TL and the '06 V6 Accord need. So, he directly contradicts you. Is he smoking crack? You're saying that the CL flywheel (DMF063) DOES have the pickups and that your car is running fine with the 063?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jprows
Just talked to the guy at Carolina Clutch... he told me that the CL flywheel does NOT have a pickup for the crank position sensor, which he claims both the TL and the '06 V6 Accord need. So, he directly contradicts you. Is he smoking crack? You're saying that the CL flywheel (DMF063) DOES have the pickups and that your car is running fine with the 063?
He has it backwards. The CL is the one with the pickup, the TL does not. The TL doesnt need the pickup. Its what keeps us with the CL manual trans from being able to use the TL flywheels.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I also just talked to LUK and the guy told me that the two parts (063 and 062) have different diameters. If that's true, how is it possible to use 063 in a TL? I have had the vendor and now the manufacturer both tell me that 062 is the only part that will work in a TL and that 063 won't work. And yet I've got you guys telling me that you have done this in your cars... with OEM clutches? Confusing... help me out.

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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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trust me its been tried and true. We have 5 guys so far running the same setup off the top of my head.

Stock flywheel



CL-S flyhwheel (look at the small tabs between the teeth and the fiction area)



just buy the damn thing already. For the clutch go to partsgeek. its 150 bucks.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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That's helpful, we posted at the same time... see above. Thoughts? Still confused...
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Haha... I hear you. Believe me, I want to go ahead and buy it already. I get that the guy at carolina clutch could have just gotten it backward... but the guy at LUK telling me they are different diameters!? How do you explain that? I mean I get it, you're saying what more evidence do I need than that you have this setup in your car... just want to know what you think about the guy at LUK.

Also, what did you mean about "re-bleed the system"? MTF flush?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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bleed the clutch with new brake fluid again.
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