What's a 3G TL top speed?

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Old 04-22-2005, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
Please, speed responsibly. If I am ever allowed to drive my father car when he actually gets it I will push it to its limits. However, I will drive out to a rural area or a track. Instead of flying to florida maybe we can drive down there some time. Although I know the TL can handle it, I wont weave in and out of traffic. Its limited to 152, but I heard the auto only goes 150, but I could be wrong. The guy who we test drove with told us he "go one hundid feefty on highway!!!"
WHOA there dude!!! At 15 you have no idea how to drive that fast. I'd hate to see you end up killing yourself due to lack of judgment. I know you think you can handle driving fast on an open road, but trust me, you have no idea what can happen at that speed, and how fast it can happen. Don't kill yourself trying to see how fast the TL will go...let someone else tell you.
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Done 145, engine was still pulling. Surprisingly the car felt tight and in control.
Done 175 on a zx-12 but that's a different league altogether.
Please no "that's irresponsible, dangerous, stupid...etc" comments thank you
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1) All cars have a drag limitation - the issue is whether that is above any other limiter, such as fuel cutoffs
2) Limiters are almost always based on legal concerns over tires, or in places like Europe, by agreement (250 kph for example)
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Post Is there no limit?

Originally Posted by Road Rage
1) All cars have a drag limitation - the issue is whether that is above any other limiter, such as fuel cutoffs
2) Limiters are almost always based on legal concerns over tires, or in places like Europe, by agreement (250 kph for example)
with RR. As I said in post # 22

Originally Posted by XP Diddy

When mftrs limit the speed of their cars, it is usually matched to the rating of the tires. They would have a liability problem if they allowed the car to outdrive the tires they put on it.

Our tires are rated for a sustained 165 MPH.

I don't think a TL would see more than 155 unless it was downhill with a following wind. :-)
The theoretical top speed of a 5AT (in a vacuum) is about 207+ MPH with a final drive ratio of 4.428 and 5th gear overdrive ratio of .48 at 6,800 RPM (rev limited).

Acura doesn't need to limit the TL's speed because the laws of physics (drag) already do that below the capacity of the "W" rated tires.

PS: The coefficient of drag for the 3rd Gen TL is .29. That's the same as a C5 Corvette.

The coefficient of drag for an A-Spec TL is .28, the same as a C6 Corvette and a Lexus LS 430. Huh???? Yes, that's what they say. Size doesn't matter: streamlining does. Cd is a product of frontal area and wind resistance so that a big car can have a lower Cd than a small one if it's designed aerodynamically. The measurement is not empiracal but relative to the two-dimensional frontal area.

(I hope I said that right. If not, the engineers will correct me.)

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Originally Posted by Road Rage
1) All cars have a drag limitation - the issue is whether that is above any other limiter, such as fuel cutoffs
2) Limiters are almost always based on legal concerns over tires, or in places like Europe, by agreement (250 kph for example)
Some limiters are also based on maximum engine RPM, it's not rare. Some production cars actually can reach their rev limiter in the highest gear.
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According to Road & Track magazine the top speed of the TL they tested was 147MPH electronicsally limited.

Test Report pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...2004172540.pdf
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The TL will do 150 in 4th gear in the 5AT. In fact, the owner's manual says not to downshift from 5th to 4th at speeds greater than 149 MPH. (Page 185 in the 2004 manual).

The only limiter the manual talks about (that I can find) is a rev limiter. As I said before, in 5th gear that would be over 200 MPH. I don't think we need to worry about hitting it in 5th gear unless you drive it over a cliff.
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Taken mine to 130, and do short stints of 110-115 every week. Usually set my cruise at 85-90. I travel a lot in the flat plains of Illionis. 110 is about as fast as I need to travel in any car, always seem to catch up to slower moving cars quickly at that speed anyway, even in the sticks.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:35 PM
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165 mph on zx9 on the street , 150 on the track when I raced a fzr 600. raced a porsche at 135 MPH on the highway and gone a 145 on clear straight in my Honda S2000. looking to go faster when I ge the new corvette z06.
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Ahhh, our own little Autobahn...I love 485, especially the new section in west Charlotte...hardly anyone uses it.
I guess that's not so true anymore, right? I've been hearing that Charlotte was empty up until the last couple of years when everyone started moving down here.
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:32 PM
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Hmm, here's an old thread, some stuff I didn't know. Good read. Especially the stuff on the drag coefficients.
Old 02-28-2009, 01:35 PM
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I'm going to admit this..
On the way home yesterday the road was entirely empty at 4am on the highway [or freeway].
I had just got out of the service station because I had to take a leak. The exit road is aprox 300 or so meters in length before it merges onto the actual highway..
So I let off the clutch and began to floor it from first.. I hit the rev limiter on each gear till I was in 5th going between 230-235 [from what it seemed] on the speedo. RPMs was at roughly 6.5K. I was unable to reach the full 240KM/H and I wasn't in 6th yet.
The car seemed to have very good control at those speeds.. but then again I was only going straight.
It gave me a mad adrenaline rush... but things wizzed by so fast that I don't think I want to go that fast anywhere except the dragstrip again.
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i did 148mph in the TL and idk if it hit fuel cut or something it bounced off at 148 and i had to slow down..


but ive done 200+mph in a supra lol
Old 02-28-2009, 03:26 PM
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I can't speak for the earlier years but my 08 Base AT is electronically limited to 130.
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...and hit the tracks.
I plan to in the future but I had NO IDEA helmets cost that much. One I was looking at was like 6 -700 bucks. CRAZY.lol. but i guess it is for my brain
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The 07-08 Type S 5at is limited to 132 I believe. The 6 speed base and Type S will go 155 I believe.
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Originally Posted by TLAdvanced
The 07-08 Type S 5at is limited to 132 I believe. The 6 speed base and Type S will go 155 I believe.
Actually it's:

'04 - '06 = 148 - 152-ish

'07 - '08 TL-S MT - 148 - 152-ish

'07 - '08 Base and TL-S AT = 130 - 135-ish


Originally Posted by Meek32v6
I plan to in the future but I had NO IDEA helmets cost that much. One I was looking at was like 6 -700 bucks. CRAZY.lol. but i guess it is for my brain
You can get an SA2000/M2000 Snell rated helmet for $100 - $150 or rent one from the track for $10 - $20 for the day.


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why does my 5at TLS shut off at 130 and the 6mt goes to around 150? i would think they would govern them all to the same.
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I've had mine past 150mph and while it goes 150mph very nicely in a straight line, you don't want to turn at all going that fast. I did it one night on a freeway I wasn't familiar with, a corner came out of nowhere and the rear end stepped out a little on me with big trees bordering the freeway. I've never been so gentle with the wheel, making sure I didn't overcorrect at all. I never tried that again. The TL is not stable at that speed in anything but a straight line.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Actually it's:

'04 - '06 = 148 - 152-ish

'07 - '08 TL-S MT - 148 - 152-ish

'07 - '08 Base and TL-S AT = 130 - 135-ish



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Ok, I was close...
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hey is this real, is impresive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7IolViX0Y
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^that vid is crazy he held that speed for mad long
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Originally Posted by TLAdvanced
Ok, I was close...


You were good man, I was just zeroing in.

But I might have made it worse - now that I think about it, I am not sure about the '07 - '08 base. They might be 150-ish too.



The '07 - '08 5AT TL-S seems to be limited the same as the 3.5L RL. Supposedly/Theory is that has something to do with the shared tranny.
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I've had mine to 140 for a short burst. I have to admit it was pretty smooth at that speed and had quite a bit left, but a quick vision of standing before the judge brought me back to reality.

For what it's worth, I had a C5 Vette up to 155 and that thing felt like it was going to fall apart on me, where as the TL felt smooth as glass at 140.
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I had my TL up to 155 on 485, it was a very slight downhill run
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that video is real because when your going that fast the white dotted lines all the sudden become connected and to chime in on the speed ive done between 140-145mph on I-684 and i have an auto so idk who said they were limited to 130
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Originally Posted by TLNY04
that video is real because when your going that fast the white dotted lines all the sudden become connected and to chime in on the speed ive done between 140-145mph on I-684 and i have an auto so idk who said they were limited to 130
Nobody did.

They say the Auto TL-S is limited to 130-ish. Maybe the base '07 - '08 too, but I am not positive about that.
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Nope i got a base 08, and did almost 150, but saw cars up ahead, but i coulda gone faster.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Nobody did.

They say the Auto TL-S is limited to 130-ish. Maybe the base '07 - '08 too, but I am not positive about that.
oh lol whoops bearcat i guess i shoulda read every post lol
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Originally Posted by TLNY04
oh lol whoops bearcat i guess i shoulda read every post lol

TLNY04 Faster >> Bearcat94


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I've pushed mine to 151, I won't be doing it anytime soon, it was sorta down hill no one in site running a C5 vette, I didn't want to let go lol
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2nd Gen Tl-S are limited to 150sh, i know cause i have taken it. Mines didnt go anywhere after 150.
My Audi A4 has a limited at 140 and it doesnt go after that but its more fun on the Audi den TL going on high speed

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my 07 5at TLS cuts off at 130, im a little confused as to why the 6mt cuts at 152 and the auto at 130, anyway to disable that? it gets to 130 quick with the things i have done to the motor but cuts right outi know you cant chip these cars to remove throttle cutoff but there has to be something if the 6mt doesnt cut till 152.
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Ya its a governer chip.
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Not sure about the TL but a lot of cars with the governed chip can have them removed.
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Geared out my h22 accord at 145 with my calculations (speedo was pegged over 130..used vafc/gearing/tire size to caculate). That was scary. The TL feels nice though its a lot more solid car. I just hate the steering in it feels light at low speed. I would hate to feel it at high speed. The accord I had was stable up to that speed but the brakes were not up to par as I noticed that part was the scariest ride of my life.


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