Type S turbo build, remote mount
#1
Type S turbo build, remote mount
im getting sick of my beautiful type-s getting spanked by a WRX.
So im getting started on a custom turbo project with my dad, UTAH TSX
we will be going with a remote mount turbo, replacing the mid muffler with the turbo.
Comp turbo has an oil-less turbo that is water cooled and that is the one we will be going with.
Tuning will be done with hondata flashpro and i will be going to vittuned for the actual tune itself.
Today we ordered the intercooler and all the piping and i already have a hondata flashpro.
my initial goal is 400-450 whp.
any thoughts or opinions/advise, who makes fuel injectors that will fit.
any boosted members have any hiccups in their build i should be aware of?
So im getting started on a custom turbo project with my dad, UTAH TSX
we will be going with a remote mount turbo, replacing the mid muffler with the turbo.
Comp turbo has an oil-less turbo that is water cooled and that is the one we will be going with.
Tuning will be done with hondata flashpro and i will be going to vittuned for the actual tune itself.
Today we ordered the intercooler and all the piping and i already have a hondata flashpro.
my initial goal is 400-450 whp.
any thoughts or opinions/advise, who makes fuel injectors that will fit.
any boosted members have any hiccups in their build i should be aware of?
#2
This is the intercooler we ordered it will be a tight fit sure we have to make a custom bumper bar the stock one is a huge monster
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I love seeing custom and one off work - how big is the comp turbo that is water cooled? Is there enough room for it to fit where the mid muffler is? Typically I've seen STS turbos are either small to fit in tight places, or are mounted high enough to not be a concern.
Just curious, but what has you going with the rear mount? Is it a concern for welding? Are you using stock cats and j-pipe or do you have PCDs and an aftermarket J pipe?
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UTAH TSX (08-09-2014)
#5
Definitely will have to brace and sheild the turbo since it will be under the car. I thought about this a while back and still do every once and a while...
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That intercooler is the same design as what JnR used in at least one of their versions. They had the BOV directly on the intercooler as well.
I love seeing custom and one off work - how big is the comp turbo that is water cooled? Is there enough room for it to fit where the mid muffler is? Typically I've seen STS turbos are either small to fit in tight places, or are mounted high enough to not be a concern.
Just curious, but what has you going with the rear mount? Is it a concern for welding? Are you using stock cats and j-pipe or do you have PCDs and an aftermarket J pipe?
I love seeing custom and one off work - how big is the comp turbo that is water cooled? Is there enough room for it to fit where the mid muffler is? Typically I've seen STS turbos are either small to fit in tight places, or are mounted high enough to not be a concern.
Just curious, but what has you going with the rear mount? Is it a concern for welding? Are you using stock cats and j-pipe or do you have PCDs and an aftermarket J pipe?
This was taken when I installed my twin disc clutch. It's even more apart at the moment.
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I have to say, Im not familiar with that contraption on top. Is that something you made, or a part made to hold the engine and trans in while dropping the subframe?
Also, I've been tempted to get one of the maxjax lifts. How do you like it, and how high will it lift the car?
Back on topic - what is the thickness of the core on the IC? I've seen the ebay version in 2.5 and 3in, and Ive debated between that one, and one that has vertical flow and isn't a dual pass. Can't decide yet. I like the looks of yours, but I've heard the single pass is 'better' but no empirical data to show it or explanations as to why.
Also, I've been tempted to get one of the maxjax lifts. How do you like it, and how high will it lift the car?
Back on topic - what is the thickness of the core on the IC? I've seen the ebay version in 2.5 and 3in, and Ive debated between that one, and one that has vertical flow and isn't a dual pass. Can't decide yet. I like the looks of yours, but I've heard the single pass is 'better' but no empirical data to show it or explanations as to why.
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UTAH TSX (09-15-2014)
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I have to say, Im not familiar with that contraption on top. Is that something you made, or a part made to hold the engine and trans in while dropping the subframe?
Also, I've been tempted to get one of the maxjax lifts. How do you like it, and how high will it lift the car?
Back on topic - what is the thickness of the core on the IC? I've seen the ebay version in 2.5 and 3in, and Ive debated between that one, and one that has vertical flow and isn't a dual pass. Can't decide yet. I like the looks of yours, but I've heard the single pass is 'better' but no empirical data to show it or explanations as to why.
Also, I've been tempted to get one of the maxjax lifts. How do you like it, and how high will it lift the car?
Back on topic - what is the thickness of the core on the IC? I've seen the ebay version in 2.5 and 3in, and Ive debated between that one, and one that has vertical flow and isn't a dual pass. Can't decide yet. I like the looks of yours, but I've heard the single pass is 'better' but no empirical data to show it or explanations as to why.
I absolutely love my lift. I only have 10ft ceilings and I'm only 5'9" and I can sit on a stool and can sit perfectly under the car. It can be used with both or one side, I used it to lift my engine to get it on my engine stand.
The IC is 3" thick. I'm pretty sure it's that way for convenience sake with the turbo and TB on that side of the engine compartment.
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interested in seeing this build. I would like to throw some boost at my TL but the JnR is quite expensive for what you get and well.. Im a mechanic so I can do it all myself haha
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What is your plan for the water cooling? like routing, pressure, source, etc.
What size charge piping will you be running from the turbo to the intercooler?
Will your exhaust still run to the rear of the car? and are you working around the evap canister or removing it?
As you might be able to deduce, I have my own plans of running a setup like this potentially.
What size charge piping will you be running from the turbo to the intercooler?
Will your exhaust still run to the rear of the car? and are you working around the evap canister or removing it?
As you might be able to deduce, I have my own plans of running a setup like this potentially.
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What is your plan for the water cooling? like routing, pressure, source, etc.
What size charge piping will you be running from the turbo to the intercooler?
Will your exhaust still run to the rear of the car? and are you working around the evap canister or removing it?
As you might be able to deduce, I have my own plans of running a setup like this potentially.
What size charge piping will you be running from the turbo to the intercooler?
Will your exhaust still run to the rear of the car? and are you working around the evap canister or removing it?
As you might be able to deduce, I have my own plans of running a setup like this potentially.
We are working with STS turbo to size the turbo and piping correctly it looks like a comp 6262 and 2 in. charge pipe will be used but I'm thinking on a little bit bigger turbo might work better for us
the evap caniter will stay in place the intake is on the other side of the canister and that gives us room for the filter we will build a air box of some type there
#19
Three Wheelin'
What's the purpose or benefit of a remote mount over something placed where the battery is (and relocating the battery)?
#20
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There are compromises with each solution though. I had thought of this, but I'm not a fan of a water only cooled turbo. Mine not be a legitimate criticism, but it is one of mine. I am not however, a brand name fanboi. There's WAY too many people that talk trash on chinese turbos. Ive seen too many instances where they work, and in the majority of instances where they don't it's 99% of the time user error. The rhetoric can be saved that tells me how great a Precision Turbo is, or a Garret, etc. My decision has been made. I also don't want to hear the "buy American" because EVERYONE here buys imported products, unless you're Amish, lol.
#21
well my intercooler came in. I feel like a kid on Christmas
but i cant post any pictures yet if only i knew someone who could post the pics for me that would be the shi... wait a minute
but i cant post any pictures yet if only i knew someone who could post the pics for me that would be the shi... wait a minute
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#22
Ok pictures here, but now for the surprise he gets to spend a couple days on the tig welder (long days) learning how to weld aluminium he is going to do all of the fab work himself I will guide him but he is the one who will have metal slivers and burned fingers on this build
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#23
Now would this be 2" to the intercooler then from the intercooler 2.5" or 3" to the tb ?
#24
Suzuka Master
Can you say huge pressure drop
#25
You always loose a pound or 2 of boost through the intercooler that it the beauty of the turbo just turn it up until you get the 12 PSI or whatever you want the cold air is ALWAYS worth it and it will take what .5 seconds at the most extra to fill it up this turbo can make 30 plus LBS of boost
Yes it will be 2 in. from the turbo to the hole where a cold air filter mounts then 2.5 stepping up to a 3.0 DC cold air intake pipe we already have mostly for looks we don't want a puny little pipe going to the throttle body with a giant Tial blow off valve welded to it
Yes it will be 2 in. from the turbo to the hole where a cold air filter mounts then 2.5 stepping up to a 3.0 DC cold air intake pipe we already have mostly for looks we don't want a puny little pipe going to the throttle body with a giant Tial blow off valve welded to it
#26
Following this.. i have an old sc61 sitting on a shelf. Though if i myself were to go this route would use a Holset HX35. But i also was thinking about maybe two small twins... like small t3s or 16g turbos mounted back where the mufflers would be. Would be a lot of piping. But then those are just some of my random thoughts.
#27
Instructor
Sub'ed looks like it will be awesome. At least you didn't get beat by a dodge neon on the highway in your 06 Lexus GS 430. The guy rolled up next to me with his stickers all over it and what not on it.... I smiled and punched it.... then watched him pass me. I went home and laughed myself to sleep.
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[QUOTE=erg69;15120561]Sub'ed looks like it will be awesome. At least you didn't get beat by a dodge neon on the highway in your 06 Lexus GS 430. The guy rolled up next to me with his stickers all over it and what not on it.... I smiled and punched it.... then watched him pass me. I went home and laughed myself to sleep.[/QUOT
That's funny my kid brought a Lexus GS 430 to my work and was thinking on buying it but I talked him into a TYPE-S one test drive in a TYPE-S and he was hooked 2 days later bought the one he has now
That's funny my kid brought a Lexus GS 430 to my work and was thinking on buying it but I talked him into a TYPE-S one test drive in a TYPE-S and he was hooked 2 days later bought the one he has now
#29
Instructor
Yeah, the only things I miss from my GS vs the tl is the RWD and the smooth ride. I like having a manual trans now too. I didn't look into upgrading my GS but I would think there is a ton of power hiding under there. Only getting 300hp out of a V-8? I almost got an ISF next but went with the TL and ~20k extra in my pocket. I got a ton a crap because I worked at a Lexus dealership at the time and was the "f champion". Thats the guy they train to know every little thing about the ISF and why its so great. Just hard to spend ~ 60k for only 416hp in an F.
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UTAH, if you and your son have access to a TIG welder and the skills, is there a different reason for using a remote mount turbo besides novelty? Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see it, just curious about the deciding factor. Also, I took a new look at the Comp oil less turbos, pretty neat. I think for purposes of a street driven TL, they would have a great lifespan. I know there were differing reports of their lifespan a few years ago, but that was with high boost, high HP applications from what I understand.
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UTAH, if you and your son have access to a TIG welder and the skills, is there a different reason for using a remote mount turbo besides novelty? Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see it, just curious about the deciding factor. Also, I took a new look at the Comp oil less turbos, pretty neat. I think for purposes of a street driven TL, they would have a great lifespan. I know there were differing reports of their lifespan a few years ago, but that was with high boost, high HP applications from what I understand.
#32
So ive been practicing my tig welding.. felt pretty confident so I decided to weld together the pipe out of my intercooler you can see where im putting my blow off valve.
#33
My son learned how to weld and finished his first intercooler pipe with the blow off valve flange on it all in one day what do you think ?
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#34
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I think I'm gonna snag one of the cheap everlast tig machines. I've heard really good things about them and I don't need a 240v setup.
Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see more.
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UTAH TSX (08-17-2014)
#35
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I think this is really cool. My son is 3 is already obsessed with cars like me, but I can only hope to be able to do a father/son project like you guys are when he is older.
Best way to learn is to just get in there and get your hands dirty, or at least that's how it was for me. Dads are there to bail your ass out when you fuck it up but then you learn
Best way to learn is to just get in there and get your hands dirty, or at least that's how it was for me. Dads are there to bail your ass out when you fuck it up but then you learn
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I think this is really cool. My son is 3 is already obsessed with cars like me, but I can only hope to be able to do a father/son project like you guys are when he is older.
Best way to learn is to just get in there and get your hands dirty, or at least that's how it was for me. Dads are there to bail your ass out when you fuck it up but then you learn
Best way to learn is to just get in there and get your hands dirty, or at least that's how it was for me. Dads are there to bail your ass out when you fuck it up but then you learn
and I cant agree with you more. The best way to learn something is to get in there and do it.
#37
Well I got my blow-off valve whent with a TiAL, red, and this is where I plan on putting it.
There is a cover in the way but I can cut a little bit off(the plastic) to make it fit around the
BOV.
There is a cover in the way but I can cut a little bit off(the plastic) to make it fit around the
BOV.
#38
mock up of where the BOV will most likely go.
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UTAH TSX (08-26-2014)
#40
I've searched fuel pumps and not found much has anyone tried running the stock pump we will be using FIC 1100 injectors getting them from Axion industries all I have found is walbro pumps ant others out there
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