I just got an 08 tl type s and Ive read that the 6 speed is much quicker then the 5speed auto.. is this true? Kinda disappointing if it is true I mean how much slower are we talking?

 

^lol.
you'll be even more disapointed to know that the six speed base TL's are much quicker than your auto type-s.

the automatic base TL's dyno about 210-220 to the wheels.
6MT Base = 230hp to the wheels.
auto type-s = 230hp to the wheels.
6MT type-s =250hp to the wheels

 

Lol. ..yessssss for me. ..

 

@justnspace well I know thays not true cause my friend has an 07 base 6speed and I beat him by a decent amount...

 

^lol

 

there are no '07 base six speeds.....
07 and 08 Base TL's are AUTOMATICS which have about 210-220wheel horse power.
so, of course your type-s pulled on him.

 

haha, ummmm, no your friend does not have a base 07 6spd.

 

I dont know what the all time best bone stock auto Type S has run, but there was a post a while back where a guy ran a 13.7 at like 103mph in a stock (maybe with CAI) 07 Type S 6mt with like 105,000 miles. I was pretty impressed!
So it would be cool if we knew what the best time someone has run in a stock auto Type S to compare.

 

^ He had light weight wheels

I can see another vexing thread

 

Yea im very curious to know my self @jts97z28 and my bad it is an automatic... so what year did they make base 6 speeds that your saying are faster then my type s auto?

 

04-06 base TL's come with a six speed manual transmissions.
you can tell by the Brembo brakes that are equipped on the front just like your type-s.

the six speed manual transmission equipped cars are LIGHTER by a couple hundred pounds and the transmission has a better gear ratio than the type-s Auto which equates to being a quicker car all around.

so, while the auto type-s hits that 4th gear wall, the six speed manuals will blow past it and keep going to 150mph.
the type-s auto is limited to 120 or 130mph

 

Gotcha! Dam that does suck... feel like my cars slow now lol I had a 2011 si before this I know its gotta be quicker then that was..

 

of course the type-s is quicker than the SI.

there's no replacement for displacement.

 

I just wanna know if a new gti rolls up on me I wont get embarrassed..

 

GTI's are slow unless they are tuned.

stage 2 tune, and they are gone.
anything less, you'll beat them

 

Okay cool it makes me feel better knowing its still faster then what I had.. I mean it pulls pretty dam hard and gets to 60 in no time.. def wish I had gotten a 6speed instead tho

 

Glad you like your car but you sound like a young kid. You are worrying if it is fast enough psssh just enjoy your ride dude. I dont want to see another thread like "Is this fixable?" Again, enjoy it.

 

Lol that just made me very happy. Is my car realistically faster? Lets not ask that question. I'll just brag about it :P

 

07 base . not low, and also slow.

 

@EVILVIRUS believe me I love my car regardless but I also like a car that moves... and @vidur chengappa thats just going based off someone said its not a proven fact..

 

I thought the same thing when I first got my Type-S (auto) but in the two years of owning it I've never been in situation where someone has pulled up to me and wanted to race. Were not in Evo's or STI's

 

Yea I guess your right..

 

we save someone else from wrecking their car

 

OP you know you can quote posts or multi-quote

the 2 on the left next to the thanks button

 

People pull up to race me all the time? Turbo supra the other day was the most recent. .I raced a few ferraris and even a dodge viper I don't know why they give me the time of day maybe to see what their car can do against an average car?...but I am always modded from like day one. ..

 

From a dig, I truly believe the auto type S is equal to the 6mt base. That is because from a dig you start out at the lowest gear and work through all of them. Don't bother racing past 109 though because that's the 4th gear wall. From most roll speeds though 6mt base will have the advantage due to ratio.
Yes, the base 6mt does put down about the same hp as auto type s, but I don't think it puts down the same torque. There's no replacement for displacement. The little advantage in torque for the auto type S about makes up for the slightly heavier weight. However the 6mt still has the gearing advantage.

 

6mt will pull on an auto type-s all day long, from a roll or a dig. The stall converter on the auto will always lag behind a well-driven 6mt off the line, and the gearing on the 5at kills it at higher speeds - the dreaded 4th gear as others have mentioned.

p.s. is that your zipcode in your username? If so I drive through Waukesha all the time and never see other type-s. Don't try to race me if you see me, though.

 

The Type-s auto is limited to 120 or 130? I had my 08 Base up to about a buck 40 before....

 

"what was that thing that just passed me!?"



its weird, some models were limited to 120 while others had a 150 limit...

 

Agreed but ignorance is bliss lol. I have the timing slip to tell me I'm one of the slowest on the drag strip. Although Acura built a great car so that's a nice thing to know at least. :P

 

I rarely see anyone in the Waukesha area with a Type S. I work in the area and own a 2008 KBP Type S. I've seen some of your posts about the work you have done on it through King Motorsports. I was considering going through them, all i hear is great things about the work they do!

 

They do great work, but it definitely isn't cheap. If I had to do it all over again I'd pass on the engine build. Now I am selling the car to help fund a house =P

 

from a dig, a 6MT can launch. 5AT can brake stand, but it's probably still not as effective.

edit: did some more research, autos tend to be faster in a drag race due to more consistent and quick shifting. nevermind!

 

It must be nice to think a stock TL is fast.

 

Everything else being equal and the automatic having a torque converter matched for the power band.

As far as bracket racing goes, people like automatics because of the consistency.

But someone who can drive a stick well will always have an advantage on Honda/Acura automatics, especially when it comes to down shifting. Newer automatics are a lot better but our cars can be infuriatingly slow to down shift. Maybe the TL is better than the Accord since y'all have paddle shifters but hitting the gas and letting it shift down automatically there doesn't seem to be any real consistency in how quickly or how many gears it will shift down.

 

I agree with this. However, the TL does have manual mode which the accord doesnt so its very easy to downshift ahead of time. I would never start a roll race while in D. That extra second to downshift would already put me at a good disadvantage

I believe a good stick driver will have the ability to outlaunch an automatic...however consistency is the key, and I have seen many supposedly good stick drivers lose to a slower car. Lets say 2 cars decide to do a 10 runs, one is auto and one is stick. How many times will the stick driver nail the launch to beat the automatic?

 

tires play a roll.
I'm betting my 6mt + summer tires could out launch an auto TL-S with all seasons on.

and as soon as I hit third, I'm gone...
lol we dont even have to wait for the dreaded 4th gear wall, I'll be gone before that.

 

If only the TLS has an option to get a 6 speed manual conversion in

 

So inconsistent too, sometimes its really quick to downshift, other times it takes forever to decide what to do.

 

I have raced plenty of type s's before in my 6 speed and pull away every time...