swoosh's build thread....the HIGH PROTEIN DIET !!! (Updated Pics-Page 74-7/12/15)
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how is your knock over 4500 rpm ? whatcha do to fix it ?
and Feji you bastid....i just thought will delay the braille battery as am spending a lot and you come along and make me spend more
let me call around
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gerzand, how lopey is your TL? you are running camshaft grinds either stage 2 or 3?
on a side note, (to others as well) how in the world do you explain lopey? I have seen it but I could never find the words
on a side note, (to others as well) how in the world do you explain lopey? I have seen it but I could never find the words
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I'm on "Stage II's"
Regarding "Stage III"...none are currently out there (advertised for sale) unless you grind to your own specs
Aside from describing the sound, from a mechanical standpoint lope is when intake valves are still open when piston is at BDC and exhaust valves are open as well, thus letting a small amount of gases escape into the intake tract
Regarding "Stage III"...none are currently out there (advertised for sale) unless you grind to your own specs
Aside from describing the sound, from a mechanical standpoint lope is when intake valves are still open when piston is at BDC and exhaust valves are open as well, thus letting a small amount of gases escape into the intake tract
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is lopey that crazy sound you'd hear from old mustangs with an E303 cam or whatever it was that would make it sound like it was idling so rough that it sounded like it was about to shut off?
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^^^ yes....you should check some of Andy's videos of his Base....you will see how lopey that was....
and Andy....that is not bad at all.....i cant wait to get my heads done....
and Andy....that is not bad at all.....i cant wait to get my heads done....
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There are varying degrees of lope, but I would categorize my lope as relatively mild. An "agressive lope" would be a 275 or higher duration cam. As you Refer to, the "303" in your "E303 cam" describes the degrees of rotation for which the intake valves are open. That is bordering insanity because it can result in substantial loss of compression at idle or even low rpm's because it is not until mid/high rpm's that the loss of exhaust gases can be outweighed by benefits tp to the combustion process by A) a more efficient evacuation of the combustion chanber of carbon monoxide which improve combustion efficiency, and B) Leaving intake valves open longer as to take in more oxygen, equaling more high end horsepower.
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ok people....
i am thinking of going with 500cc injectors....with the new manifold + TB + intake i think i would need bigger injectors....RDX would do fine but thinking of 500cc injectors....
what is a good company that makes injectors ? looking for high atomization as well as a good flow design....any opinions/options for me ?
so should i shuddup and stick with the RDX injectors
also someone know the injector size for the Shawd TL/MDX/RL ???
i am thinking of going with 500cc injectors....with the new manifold + TB + intake i think i would need bigger injectors....RDX would do fine but thinking of 500cc injectors....
what is a good company that makes injectors ? looking for high atomization as well as a good flow design....any opinions/options for me ?
so should i shuddup and stick with the RDX injectors
also someone know the injector size for the Shawd TL/MDX/RL ???
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I could have sworn someone wrote that there were an alternative to the RDX ones that were bigger and cheaper that worked?!?! Can't remember what thread.
Andy, thanks for the response...my head is spinning. I don't know about losing low end on a fox body mustang, but I do know my buddy broke into the 11's on that one.
Andy, thanks for the response...my head is spinning. I don't know about losing low end on a fox body mustang, but I do know my buddy broke into the 11's on that one.
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^^^ Jer...if you find the thread lemme know
Feji,
how is the atomization quality of the RDX injector....if am paying that much might make sure that is the best injector money can buy....
Feji,
how is the atomization quality of the RDX injector....if am paying that much might make sure that is the best injector money can buy....
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I could have sworn someone wrote that there were an alternative to the RDX ones that were bigger and cheaper that worked?!?! Can't remember what thread.
Andy, thanks for the response...my head is spinning. I don't know about losing low end on a fox body mustang, but I do know my buddy broke into the 11's on that one.
Andy, thanks for the response...my head is spinning. I don't know about losing low end on a fox body mustang, but I do know my buddy broke into the 11's on that one.
http://www.injectordynamics.com/
Here is a Honda-Tech seller, but you have to PM for shipped prices.
http://marketplace.honda-tech.com/sh....php?t=2802588
Also, Xenocron Tuning sells them: http://www.xenocron.com/injectors-c-...775436883229d7
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i have no personal experience, and none of my friends around here do either.. (on a side note most of my friends think I am crazy.. they are the type that will just add wheels or tint to their cars and call it a day)
I have researched and I have the following
http://www.onecamonly.com/archive/index.php/t-1895.html
here is a youtube from that thread
also this one:
its a DIY but good research
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/do-yo...r-install.html
and thirdly
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157469
I have a few more but everything I read says RDX has one of the better spray patterns out there for the money... i did a bit of homework before I gave my lunch money for it
but it is folks opinions, I havent heard anything negative but no concrete data #s on anything.. even though a few civic, RSX, and integra turbo users do get them i still do not have any dyno info.. but I guess I will this summer
now if you go turbo and want over 450hp then you might need something bigger but I have not reasearched into all that is neede for turbo.. for N/A this is what I am figuring I would need in my endeavor to go Ricky Bobby
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FAWKING awesome info there Feji....I will be sticking to RDX injectors.....
94eg! i looked into Injector Dynamics and damn the 725cc are expensive....
also WOW they tooo big for my needs.....
^^^ thats what she said
94eg! i looked into Injector Dynamics and damn the 725cc are expensive....
also WOW they tooo big for my needs.....
^^^ thats what she said
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No prob.
I was gonna add that if money was no object, then ID725's would be the way to go. But the last time I checked, RDX-410's were less than half the price. Kinda makes makes for a no-brainer for us average Joe's. Personally I wish I coiuld justify giving RDX's a try on my Civic/B18C. But the added cost of fuel rail adapters, pigtails and a dyno tune to bring out their max potential are not really in the cards for me any time soon.
It's okay, I drive like a grandma anyways. lol
I was gonna add that if money was no object, then ID725's would be the way to go. But the last time I checked, RDX-410's were less than half the price. Kinda makes makes for a no-brainer for us average Joe's. Personally I wish I coiuld justify giving RDX's a try on my Civic/B18C. But the added cost of fuel rail adapters, pigtails and a dyno tune to bring out their max potential are not really in the cards for me any time soon.
It's okay, I drive like a grandma anyways. lol
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LOL! That's not even close to a good deal. RDX injectors 16450-RWC-A01 only cost $39 each from the online Acura dealers. The pigtails can't cost more than $40 for brand new set of 4. I hope you guys weren't getting screwed!
http://www.oemacuraparts.com/index.p...A01&make=Acura
http://www.oemacuraparts.com/index.p...A01&make=Acura
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i did the math on the cost for injectors and pigtails and they break even from Rodney for the GB.. the one thing to note is that it should be plug and play (meaning still tuning but no cutting).. i also put a $ value on my time being spent cutting/modding stuff to make it fit... i always do the math before i give my lunch money to someone... and the funny part is I am bringing my lunch (brown bagging) to work all this week
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LOL! That's not even close to a good deal. RDX injectors 16450-RWC-A01 only cost $39 each from the online Acura dealers. The pigtails can't cost more than $40 for brand new set of 4. I hope you guys weren't getting screwed!
http://www.oemacuraparts.com/index.p...A01&make=Acura
http://www.oemacuraparts.com/index.p...A01&make=Acura
$400 shipped was for injectors
($40 a pop X 6 = $240)
and i said pigtails where i meant pnp harness
($20 a pop x 6 = $120)
total comes to $360 which i think was the GB price....you will not need to splice any harness or cut any wires....pnp....if you get the scion TC clips and the pigtails you will spend ~$50-60 and then do DIY on em....
from where
i did the math on the cost for injectors and pigtails and they break even from Rodney for the GB.. the one thing to note is that it should be plug and play (meaning still tuning but no cutting).. i also put a $ value on my time being spent cutting/modding stuff to make it fit... i always do the math before i give my lunch money to someone... and the funny part is I am bringing my lunch (brown bagging) to work all this week
thanks Feji....yeah there was miscommunication from my part earlier.....thanks for clarifying.....
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And what's all this P&P harness nonsense. Don't be pansies. I don't bill myself for my own time having fun with a hobby, and you guys shouldn't either. lol
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