Excelerate

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Hey guys ROTORA is about to release their rear Big Brake Kits for the Acura CL and TL and to start it off right I wanted to offer some special pricing. Firstly, the rear Big Brake Kits will consist of a 2-piece 13" rotor (choice of slotted only or cross drilled and slotted) with a 2-piston caliper (choice of red or sky blue metallic), stainless steel brake lines, and street/sport pads. The e-brake is still functional. List on these kits is $1695. I will be selling this first wave at $1400 shipped. If you are interested PM me. And of course if you need a front BBK PM me too.

ACCURATEin

Josh Thanks for the heads up on the release for the rears...

It was good to meet you in person at SEMA IAS in April.

chill_dog

Another item for the list, huh Eric? Matching rears will look really good

MichaelBenz

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Damn guy....you keep finding ways to spend my money!! Checking into it.....

Excelerate

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Mike: LOL. Guys I can only hope that you will spend all your money with me.

Eric: It was nice to meet you too at SEMA. Hopefully I'll see your car at another meet and this time mine will be registered in the show.

MichaelBenz

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Would be looking for fronts too......what cost for all four?

Acuracy

Are the rear BBK available with 4 piston calipers or just 2? Also i know u said they were 13inch rotors, i have the front BBK i cant remember the size but is the rear the same size as the front? thanks

Travis

Excelerate

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Yes you can get a rear BBK with a 4-piston caliper. It's another $300. More than likely you have a 13" rotor in the front. ROTORA does offer a front BBK with a 14" rotor but more than likely you have the 330mm disc, not the 355mm.

Acuracy

yea i think i have the 330 in front...i think im gonna get the rear bbk but inorder to upgrade to the 355 rotors in the front can i just swap the rotors ur would i need to chhange the entire setup? thanks

Travis

Excelerate

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I don't think that this would be possible. I assume the calipers are the same but the bracket would be different b/c the larger rotor would need the caliper relocated further away than it is now. Also, since the caliper is further away now then the SS lines would need to be longer. Again I have not confirmed this with ROTORA but this would be my assertion. If you want to get the rear BBK PM me so we can work out payment and I can get you on my stocking order coming in from ROTORA in the next 2-3 weeks.

Nitrotiger

pm me this is a must for me

Nitrotiger

Pm me this is a must for me

MichaelBenz

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Just got a set of 4 myself!!

Nitrotiger

Did you get the rear! 4 pistons

MichaelBenz

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Yep....both front and rear matching set... 4 piston calipers and 2 peice rotors. Cant wait to get em on when they get here!!

Nitrotiger

What sucks i have to get rid of my exhistingbrembos im not feeling that at all. i wouls need 6 pistons for the front if im going to give up the 4pistons in the front. it's an easy upgrade if you do not have the brembos. i hoping some one makes a rotor for that set up. what color did you order?

jmbnova

My thoughts exactly... do theymake the rears in black? Then we could just get the rears and they would all match

MichaelBenz

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Actually...I had to go with the blue color rotors as that was the only color available for the rear setup. Prob would have preferred red...but the blue caliper set w/ 2 pc rotor setup for the rear was the last one that was available until another month out....and I need em for a performance challenge event before then....so I just went with what was available. I went with a 4 piston front and rear for a matched set as I have the standard automatic setup w/o Brembo.

CCColtsicehockey

dang so when is rotora gonna release a rear kit for the tsx cause then I will probably finally get my brakes.

NighthawkBlack

If you already have the front Brembo 4 piston brakes as I do, do you think it makes more sence to get the 2 piston rotora kit for the rear instead of the 4 piston since it wouldn't match?

MichaelBenz

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More sense...no. Balanced is the key!

CleanCL

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i dont think you are going to see much of a difference between 2/4 piston rear caliper w/ your brembo fronts. remember braking is biased to the front, so balancing it with an equal 4-piston WILL improve breaking, but noticeably better than the 2 pistoN? i dont think so.

MichaelBenz

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BUT...in your scenario...what can happen due to your stated fact alone (biased braking to the front)...is your front wheels will lock up before your back wheels due to the fact that you have DOUBLE the squeeze on the front wheels to begin with, which in fact...would even further this differential. I am not saying what you are proposing wont work fine....but for optimal braking characteristics...I recommend balancing the front and rear with equal pistons to help to make sure that your front wheels dont have the tendency to lock before your backs. Fact is...skid control would probably correct this automatically anyway...BUT...it is what it is and that is the theory I followed anyway. Excelerate also recommended this same setup for the reasons stated above....more balanced braking in extreme conditions. Trust me...you dont want to experience this at 100MPH, and maybe it is due to extreme driving conditions I encounter at the events I enter into with 100mph - 0 braking tests, ect. I also want to do road courses like putnam park....so this may have been part of the reason for his recommendation too. I am sure he will chime in when he reads this...

Excelerate

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Certainly the majority of the braking is done in the front (75% or so). However, upgrading your rear caliper and 1 piece rotor to a 13" rear kit with a 4 piston caliper and 2 piece rotor will be effective and you will notice a difference. You will absolutely have more leverage with your braking although you may notice it as much went lightly applying your brakes. Now it won't be as night as day as replacing front stock A/T calipers with a Brembro or ROTORA front BBK but you will have more leverage due to the larger caliper and more pistons. Also doing the rear BBK will give you better "balance" b/c the rears won't be trying to lock up as quickly as they would when just having a front BBK. In the end, a front BBK will be sufficient for most people but for those who do some track time or really "use" their brakes, or those who want the bling bling, will really enjoy the benefits of a front and rear kit.

The difference between the 2 and 4 piston too won't be huge but the difference will be there. You will have more of a caliper and more pistons and better response b/c now you have 4 smaller pistons putting equal pressure on the pad whereas you only had 2 before. Again, the difference won't be monumental but it will be there.

MichaelBenz

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Thanks Chad! All I can say...is the car can stop on a dime!

VelfarreClubber

Noob question... how does upgrading the front bbk on a AT TL affect normal and emergency braking?

Having a bbk does the car know how much braking force is needed in the front as opposed to the rears? .... compared to when it was stock?

Excelerate

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Well check out this link: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/master-brake1.htm

The brake master cylinder along with the proportioning valve control the amount of pressure exerted by the brakes in the front and rear. The front BBK is set up in accordance to the stock master cylinder. The kits are "balanced" so that the rears do not lock up although if you exert enough pedal pressure the rears will, with any kit, lock up.

MichaelBenz

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^^Yes...they work great...and the emergency brake works too!

triggle

My




Edit just noticed your other thread with the pics but the pics here would be nice as well.

BustedJack

^ sigh

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/those-who-know-watches-138689/

MichaelBenz

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