Well, it looks like my clutch is almost done. It doesn't really grab like it use to and it slips every once in awhile. My question is, what should I replace it with? A Type S, TL-P, or clutch masters?

 

Be aware- the instruction pages in the factory manual are 3 pages long- just on replacing the clutch disc and pressure plate!! Requires some trick tools the average guy does not own, but the dealer does.

It can be done- as long as the tech knows in advance and prepares for the job

Acura was quoting $2500 recently to another member with an 06- blown clutch- and they had a buddy with a shop do it instead, call the dealer and ask
Hopefully your year is the easy one to do~

 

he's not asking if he can do it himself, but which clutch to put in. I think the TL-S clutch is the same as the 04-06 TL. I know that the CL-S light-weight flywheel from comptech is a mod that some have done.

 

I got that part~-
And in the interest of hearing myself type-
I wanted other readers to know:
this is not azone has the parts part 100 bucks,- AND its NOT a 2 hour- throw a new clutch in a front wheel drive car- The kind of job the place down the street can do without issues.
Giving the dealer price is for price referance, based on reading another thread on failures and resolution for gen3.

Since I dont own a M/T car, I cant offer advice based on experience.

 

ive used CM clutch for over a year now, love it!

 

TL-S and 04-06 MT have different part #'s for the clutch and flywheel. I wonder what the difference is?

04accordcpe: Did CM get everything right with the kit? I thought their were some problems with it.

 

It's going to be done at the dealership. My SA told me 8-10 Hrs. That includes taking off the s/c. That's why I am going to install my motor mounts and spark plugs. I am also going to replace my front pro-cat.

 

Henryk,
Why does the SC need to come off?
Couldn't you just disconnect the one connection point that attaches to the trans?

You need new plugs already? Didn't you just replace that motor last year? Did you farm over your used plugs? How many miles on the ones you have?

Great idea on the mounts. I'm dreading the thought of install on those.

As for clutches... I was really hoping for a more verbose response from 04accord, as that clutchmasters setup looks nice.

 

i got my revised kit installed over the weekend. first off the PP was wayyy to heavy for DD. they gave me a PP with the same diaphram as my original stage 3 kit - the FW. it is much better now. i ate through 4 oem clutchmaster cylinders in 2 months because the inter seals could not handle the added pressure

FW still has a little noise when starting, BUT if you purchase a used or send them your oem flywheel to them, they can take off the ring gear and install it on their alum FW. the ring gear they provide is a little smaller in diameter than the oem. however, it will not cause any problems, so if you can live with the added noise at startup, it will work for you.

ill get some pics up of the new kit and maybe a video of the start up noise.

if you can swallow the price, i highly recommend it if you dont want the FW and just the clutch kit, it will be 1/2 of that, but you will still need to send them your FW so they can notch it out, to accommodate their kit

 

Please let us know how much the dealer charges you for the labor and parts.

 

I think the difference is in a "feel" spring that was incorporated in the pressure plate that gave more sensitivity to releasing the clutch. It was explained in the Honda Digital News website.

"The TL's manual transmission is equipped with a compact clutch unit that is self-adjusting for consistent pedal height, feel, and effort throughout its service life.

This innovative clutch system automatically eliminates the slack between the pressure plate and clutch disc thus lowering release loads while maintaining consistent pressure for the diaphragm spring. The clutch mechanism incorporates a clutch feel compensation spring that results in a more linear engagement feel.

To reduce drivetrain shock and limit the torque load on transmission components, the clutch includes a one-way delay valve located in the slave cylinder that restricts return fluid flow during rapid clutch engagement. This makes the clutch engagement more gradual during rapid release.

A dual-mass flywheel helps to reduce noise, cut down the transfer of engine vibration into the cabin, and provide increased comfort during shifting. This unit is divided into two flywheels with a torsion spring and viscous damper sandwiched between the two. This design enhances the durability of the synchronizers, reduces vibration and gear rattle, and reduces the shift load."


I'll probably keep my TL for 10-12 more years so more than likely when the clutch has to be replaced I'll probably get the OEM TL-S pressure plate and clutch and replace it myself. Everything else in the system looks the same (slave cylinder, flywheel, cutch fork,...) between the 2005 6MT and a 2007 6MT.

I'm not looking forward to it's replacement. I've replaced 3 FWD Honda's and 2 RWD Toyota's clutches in my life. All of the FWD took over 6 hours, not fun dropping the driveshafts, the bellhousing/transaxle. RWD (Supra and Corona) took over 4 hours.

I looked over the procedure for the TL 6MT and it looks like you definitely need the special tool (there's even a warning sticker on the bottom of the bell housing you can see when under the car!). The procedure is the same as a normal clutch except for using the tool to properly pretension and untension the pressure plate/clutch during installation. Not sure if one can rent/borrow the tool or the cost.

 

That is incorrect, the flywheel is different, and for $600 for new flywheel I'll stick with the original clutch for my 2005.

 

SC needs to come off to replace my front cat. I just started getting the P430 code. I decided to replace the plugs because I don't feel like paying for labor again. New plugs definitely won't hurt. I would say I have 8-9K on them. I figured I'd do everything at once.

 

Please get a sound clip if you have the time.

Also, my SA told me that they can't resurface my FW. And that regardless of what clutch I get, I should also get a new FW. Is this correct? He hasn't lied to me before. Maybe that's why that one guy got a qoute of $2400.

 

ya, go to another guy. he doesnt know what hes talking about.

you can definetely resurface these FW's even though their dual mass. i got mine resurfaced when i got my original CM kit for 30.bucks. you have to find the right machine shop for the job. just make sure hose down and rince the FW really good, to get all the cutting oil and junk out from between the 2 masses.

if you are going for the CM kit minus FW, your best bet is to pick up a used FW and send it to them. they do resurfacing there, PLUS they have to notch it out for their PP anyways. kill 2 birds with one stone

ill try to get a vid up before the end of the day.

 

or if you do want a new flywheel, the CL-S one fits on the 04-06 6MT, a few have put it on. The only problem is that it can't be resurfaced, but it is lightweight.