Yea 3 people a were sniffing my exhaust yesterday. I was kinda odd

 

do you feel the power down low .... i really wanna install these but dont have cash rite now prob save up alittle more and throw these on with my test pipe.....

 

that's a kinda personal question don't ya think?

it felt as if i gained power throughout the entire rpm band. i'm gonna go to my friends shop and dyno my car and see what my numbers are. i didn't do a preinstallation dyno run, so i can't do comparisons.

 

........hehe yeah i wanted to dyno my car befor which i should do and then see how much i gain with the deletes and the test pipe

 

Car doesn't really have a foul stentch when parked.. It is more towards wot.. Either way smellz good.. Reminds me of a 2 stroke dirtbike

 

i have a pre-dyno of my car at 273whp.... i will dyno again come september, when the air is a little cooler, and the 20's are off the car

 

Also let's not forget the procats vs no cats dyno

 

you think my 19's will effect my dyno numbers?

 

definitely

 

It took me like 3 hours to read through all this! just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I dont think I would do this mod since I live in Cali. I might just get Richie's resonated test pipe. Already have AR25 but the slightly reduced drone still annoyes me from time to time when I'm in the mood for some P&Q. Can't wait to see some numbers from ya, Black!

As for 335 encounters; I'm ashamed to say I too, fell victim. this one, however, was a coupe, tricked out for sure! it was slammed with an exhaust and I think it had a CF hood....so probably vishnu'ed or something. it was off a green light, he had me from the launch and nimbly got ahead by like 2 or 3car lenghts (yeah, I can't launch the TL to save my life), but towards the mid range of 2nd gear, the gap stopped spreading. we both slowed at around 60, since it was a busy area in mid day. To twist the knife, he had two people onborad and I had myself and two boogie boards (they're heavy...right?). Afterwards they just slowed down and tossed over some wicked-ass grins. I felt stupid....but back then I had NO IDEA what these deutchland-destroyers were capable of.
I get the best pull at the top end of 2nd gear (never got there). IMO, any short sprint to like 50 or 60 is a lost cause with this car, even w/S'C. it's gotta be up to 80 or 100mph in order to demonstrate some huevos. i think on the highway I would put up a fight and maybe win...unless it's crazy-chipped.

We'll keep fighting!!!!!

 

strangely I agree...2 stoke dirtbike smell is awesome. Now I have more incentive to buy these.

 

Not true with a TL Diet (no SC required).

 

i skipped from page 3 to freaking page 16 because i didn't want to read all the freaking pages. i was considering getting the pre-cats, along with the jpipe and test pipe.
what's the freaking outcome? no cels or codes? all three give you 20 hp?! i thought it was JUST the precats that yielded 20?

 

You can't add the hp methematically

Jpipe gives a nice torque bump, 3rd cat delete yields a couple hp, and precats yield mad power

The outcome is go all 3 or 2/3 and you will gain through out the entire powerband

Imo all 3 is ftmfw

 

If you like the smell already, put a couple gallons of racegas since you have no cats and only primary 02s. You will love the smell. When I used to pull into Sonic on Saturdays to go racing, people would look up before I even got to them if the wind was blowing their direction, even got comments as I was driving by about "being here to race".

 

Haha I've been reading this thread for the past couple hours on and off and I find it funny that you were saying that you'd never run catless.

 

 

Temptation is a bitch

Ps. Catless, cars def running rich, def would love to tune her

 

so when are the dyno's coming? September is almost over; I remember someone saying they would dyno before that. I'm still hesitant if I should get these due to the smell and sound. I remember someone saying they had a rattling sound to them instead of a deep sound.

 

the rattling = poor installation
the smell = you get used to

 

I'll post a dyno soon. I purchased the pre-cats and j-pipe from richie but something with the quality of the current stock was no bueno. as soon as the new pipes come in, ill install them with my hondata reflash. My dyno will consist of, 04 6mt, S/C, CAI, pre-cat deletes, j-pipe, and Greddy evo2's.
From all I've read, I'm hoping for ~350 whp. I'll know soon. Post sheets the same day.

 

^test pipe or race pipe.... 350hp looks to be attainable honestly for a 6mt... really want to see what your midrange looks like

 

I will be dyno'ing too once I get the precats on.. my set up will be:

5AT
AEM cai, precat deletes, jshift j pipe, jshift test pipe, 2.5" custom exhaust with aero ar25 resonatory to 2.25" Skunk2 mufflers

 

jshift, got renamed to r-v6 performance

 

ok where can i pick these up, I NEED TO KNOW

 

I already told you through aim but yea pm: richie v6

 

bought off badass TL-S for 175!

 

^ Nice. I heard the install in a BITCH. good luck!

 

Al's got me

He's a 5x pre cat installer so I trust him

 

Whats up Brian, he is actually installing mine tomorrow.....

 

I wouldn't say install is a bitch, it is removal of the third cat that is, but yea I'm used to it already

 

I wouldn't say install is a bitch, removal of the third cat is, but yea I'm used to it already

We'll see if I can do it on a boosted ua6 under 3hours,

 

^

 

Out of curiosity, why do you think it's running rich? The computer only uses the wideband 02 before the cats. Richer is safer I guess.

 

so removing the 3rd is the hardest? Do the precats just slip on out/slip in the deletes or do you have to remove a fair amount of stuff?

 

correction not third... REAR*

hey I hate cars, I get a crazy loud pop between wot shifts, swear to you I am flaming out the exhaust, but hey, she pulls like a bat out of hell

 

i love my pre-cats... about 3-4k miles, no CELs at all...

the rattling, is ONLY on my first WOT, then its gone until the car gets cold again... its not that bad either

I will be installing some type of 3rd cat solution this month, and re-dyno'ing soon... im hoping to yield high 280's .. good enough for me!

 

^ I can make you a resonator in the location of the 3rd cat hit me up

 

^ that or Mikes high-flow... did you say richie is making a resonated test pipe??

 

Richie already has a resonated jpipe, and he also has a hiflow 3rd cat

I was saying I can make a resonator using an aero resonator and a richie race pipe, $50 for resonator, $65 for the race pipe, few more bucks for the custom weld