Andy thinking about selling the PnP Manifold you sold me. I dont think my clutch can take all this power good thing i still held onto my stock manifold.

CAn't pm yet bu how much?

Welcome BTW lol Well I bought it for 350 shipped. I can do 300 shipped plus PP fees. Here is the orginal thread and what it looks like. My gains were awesome but I need the clutch to last me as this is my only car but I will get this again in the future. If you wanna call or text me 757 537 3257 Eric

original Thread https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/ported-polished-pnpd-intake-manifold-3g-tl-750814/

What?!

Yea that's sounds retarded.

I'll hit you up with a txt right now man

That sucks eric. Is it common for 6mt owners to have clutch slippage when doing all the boltons?

How so Mr.Bender?

I have just never head of a PP making to much power for a stock clutch.

No.

you just did

I don't think it was the bolt on's. Something is wrong here. That stock clutch can handle a lot more than PnP, cai, exhaust, ect. Either it was a bad clutch assembly, it was abused, or someone doesn't know how to drive stick.

Sorry to prove you wrong, but Eric is right. I have over 110k on my stock clutch with most of the mods in my sig. I had no issues what so ever and I'm not easy on my car. However I do know to drive a stick, so that contribute to my clutch's longevity. After a week of have a PnP IM, my clutch started slipping in 3rd gear.

So there you go; two cases that you have heard of.....

Haha. Coincidence maybe? I know pnp will yeild some power just didn't think it would be to that extent.
Pnp'd my manifold and runners and really didn't feel a drastic increase in power. But my manifold wasn't "fully pnp'd" so hopefully if I pick up this manifold I Will feel a great increase.

There you go . 110 on a stock clutch. It wasn't the mani, it's that the clutch is getting old and your beating on it.

nice job man, gona do my tl just like that

What other mods do you have? I have everything with the exception of force induction. All mods compliment each other. Miss an ingredient, and it's not felt as good as the full deal.

Sorry man; I don't buy it. It's too much of a coincidence that it happen right after both Eric and myself install. I would believe it if we both were over 110k; he only has about 50k or so. My clutch has been performing fine before. Besides, the power bump is just that huge!

has anyone dyno'ed yet with pnp manifold? everyone says the manifold yields greater power than the mdx spacer but does anyone have any real numbers?

Just texted u back, sorry it took a while we had a late dinner.

I will eventually; just haven't had time. True me when I say this thing makes power; as good as the deletes if not more. Another evident is cars that I could bearly hang with; I'm pulling on them like never before....i.e. 07+ GT's, Challenger R/T.

Np bro!

btw I have a accord 6mt j30a4: ralco underdrive pulley, richies v1 jpipe (had xlr8), obx dual catback, aem cai, semi- pnp manilfold, pnp runners, bored throttle body,rebuilt heads..

im guessing everyone will agree pnp mani > spacer???

i dunno why but im still not sold.

I also remember thewanderer saying he really didn't feel much after he pnp'ed his stuff and i know him personally not just through online chat.

Haha how is James/josh (i forgot ) since he got the Shelby GT500? Tell ya what IFI have the Mani on my TL when i come up to NY in March ill swap it on for you and let you ride around with it and let you see for yourself.

haha its James. he good.

If your here in march with the Mani, i'll do the swap myself and test it out.

I was unde the impression this was a true pnp im but it looks like just the intake port and exit ports were pnp'd. I did this to my current IM with a dremel. Now Im Not so sure in buying cuz idk what would be the difference?
To the member who did the work, how far in is it pnp'd? As much as your dremel could reach or?
Sorry jut don't wanna drop 300 and see no gains..

Ok, I could be wrong but from what I have read you have to be putting down well over 300 hp ATW to ruin this stock clutch.

Mine is a true PnP. I have as much metal as you can get out of the IM. The inlet on the TB side is about 2 mm larger, but the outlet on the runners side is matched with the stock size. Just check out my pics in post #10.

Ok so whose IM is this? Totalacuratl or Ronjon? Cuz I'm getting replies from both and I'm txtig someone about it lol

^^ lmao

You must be talking to Ronjon; cause I'm not selling mine....lol!

dude you talking to me...paypal me the money !!!

i just got mine ported runners and manifold awsome gains, done in my AT TL and Civic J32 Swap, nice mod

i have a pnp im and pnp runners n pretty much every other bolt on too and the gains arent as crazy as u guys are making them seem! they do make some nice gains but not HUGE gains but we wont know for sure how much its putting down until someone dynos it

^what he said....
I got mine from 05AcTL and he bought that from "thewanderer" I guess. That is my only mod for now with the CAI. I admit I don't have other bolt ons. The power is definitely felt when compared to stock but it does not blow you away or suck you back in the seat. I can not believe that when coupled with every bolt on you would have that effect either. I want to guess the gains to be in the vicinity of 6-8 hp/8-12 TQ by doing IM alone. With all other bolt ons you are looking at 10-12hp/12-14 tq on a good day. Again all these numbers are on rick's neural dyno, so this is still open to a debate.

They are just ragging their clutches and blaming the mani.The CL and TL are practically the same clutches, and even those with a sc are fine.

No ragging here. I love the mod. You guys that have this mod, don't have too many other mods to support it. So the gains won't be as big as mine or RonJon757's.

Good lord...
Am I the only that envisions the "spacing" continuing until we're cutting holes in the hood so the many can hang out...?

This mod does not yield 15-20 HP.
The engine breathes pretty well as is.

You've done nothing to open the the throttle body.

... I could go on, but this is just crazy talk.

Butt dyno's don't count. Anyone that quotes a HP increase by feel is full of shit.

Wow man.....take a chill pill. I'm usually skeptical about these things as well. But the proof is in the pudding. I would not lie about gains and mods that effect my car. This mod is one of the best comparable to the deletes. I might have exaggerated with 15-20 hps, but I'm sure this mod made 10 tops!

I'm not some newbie just logs on and start typing bullshit just to get attention. I just here to pass on some good info and mods for others to enjoy. If I did not feel this mod made a difference, you would NOT have heard a peep out of me.

Is there a dyno to show the 10hp gain?

i agree


I have pretty much every mod possible except for the bored TB and boost and i have the ported runners which you dont