Ported/Polished Upper Intake Manifold and Runners!
02-11-2012, 12:29 PM
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finally decided to go NA....
02-11-2012, 12:47 PM
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Would have been nice to see!
02-11-2012, 12:54 PM
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Well im skipping any sort of tune on this step and going straight for the 400whp mark with race heads and cams. After waiting 2 years, all parts are in and ready to go, with the exception of some modifications being done to the ecu by rodney. That should be back next week.
Nope, and the all wheel drive
Would have been nice to see!
Nope, and the all wheel drive
Would have been nice to see!
get all the parts in....install everything and tune her once and call it a day....nice....
So your just running the TL-S Intake runners right ?
I was thinking of getting the SHAWD TB/Manifold/Runners and porting and polishing them but cant find the runners for the SHAWD
02-11-2012, 03:38 PM
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^^^ hahahaha really ?
So the only difference is the TB ? I thought the manifold opening would be different was well....
So the only difference is the TB ? I thought the manifold opening would be different was well....
02-11-2012, 05:47 PM
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^^^ I have P2R Intake Thermal Gaskets on both sides of my MDX spacer and P2R TB Thermal gaskets on both sides of my TBS 
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P118:
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=68
P149: is for the 09+ SHAWD and looks
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=82
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=68
P149: is for the 09+ SHAWD and looks
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=82
02-11-2012, 06:22 PM
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shit man thats pretty damn good numbers for just bolt ons
makes me excited even more now to get my my manifold
anil i tried looking for the intake runners from the shawd , i found nothing
buT ANDY 300 WHP for just bolt ons and no tune i cant wait to come into more money im just gonna start giving u projects lmao
makes me excited even more now to get my my manifold
anil i tried looking for the intake runners from the shawd , i found nothing
buT ANDY 300 WHP for just bolt ons and no tune i cant wait to come into more money im just gonna start giving u projects lmao
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^^^ hahaha....right....
am gonna just get the SHAWD TB/manifold and get it bored and ported and polished....
then will put my current bored-TB/Manifold pnp-ed on the BM LOL....
am gonna just get the SHAWD TB/manifold and get it bored and ported and polished....
then will put my current bored-TB/Manifold pnp-ed on the BM LOL....
02-11-2012, 06:51 PM
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BM my ass lol
im on this forum enough ill know when your selling it lol
do u happen to know my accords tb size? no one on my forum knows maybe u do or someone on here
im on this forum enough ill know when your selling it lol
do u happen to know my accords tb size? no one on my forum knows maybe u do or someone on here
02-11-2012, 08:02 PM
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P118:
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=68
P149: is for the 09+ SHAWD and looks
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=82
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=68
P149: is for the 09+ SHAWD and looks
http://powerrevracing.com/shop/produ...?id_product=82
because it says 04+ TL and doesn't mention Type-S, last I heard or dreamt about the IM was a different material and didn't know if there were other differences. I don't think there is but it would suck to have to return it.
02-12-2012, 02:30 AM
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PM sonnick....he has an accord and might be able to tell you the TB size
^^^ i think the only difference was the material (04-06 = aluminum and 07+ = magnesium).....but thats about it.....i dont think there are any other differences....
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^^^ Thats great info bro....reinforces my measuring skills 
about the runners and P2R Intake Manifold spacer am at 46.xx mm (very very close to 47 actually)....stock is 44.xx mm....
do you by any chance have a 4G TL of which you can measure the TB and manifold ?
about the runners and P2R Intake Manifold spacer am at 46.xx mm (very very close to 47 actually)....stock is 44.xx mm....
do you by any chance have a 4G TL of which you can measure the TB and manifold ?
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I dont have the IM but here is the TB
04-08 TL & 03+ Accord Throttle Body Size:
Inlet ID: 67mm
Outlet ID: 65mm
09+ Acura TL SH-AWD Throttle Body Size:
Inlet ID: 80mm
Outlet ID: 70mm
accord/tl/rl TB vs 11 3.7L TL SHAWD ported I think 85mm inlet and 74 outlet
04-08 TL & 03+ Accord Throttle Body Size:
Inlet ID: 67mm
Outlet ID: 65mm
09+ Acura TL SH-AWD Throttle Body Size:
Inlet ID: 80mm
Outlet ID: 70mm
accord/tl/rl TB vs 11 3.7L TL SHAWD ported I think 85mm inlet and 74 outlet
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^^^ you mah man....are my savior
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to be honest if maxbore raised their price your better off buying the 11 3.7TL SHAWD TB and getting an adapter plate so that you can put it on your TL.
Cuz from my view point. send in your TB and pay 105-150 to get it port and polished only for it to be a few MM larger and have almost 1 week down time. However, the inlet of the TB will perfectly match the opening of the IM so increase in air and no bottle neck
Where as option 2. 450 shipped or less for the TB + 70 for adapter = 13mm larger inlet and 15mm larger outlet. And very little down time. however, the TB will be tappered to the size of the IM because of such the large size different. Also with the spacer/ adapter you might need to cut your intake, or get it to fit somehow. Or can send it in to maxbore and have them try to match the IM opening to the adapter. But for you guys with the type-s Im its not going to be a big difference since the TL-S im doesn't have too much material to bore out in the first place. The Base/accord IM would have a better chance.
Option 3 105-150 to send it to maxbore + 50 for a use TB while you send your new one in. *cough cough there one in the F/s* very little down time. and it will work and not break the bank or leave you carless for 1 week
also I out down 105-150 since I dont know the exact price that they charge now, and you have to pay shipping to get it to them.
Cuz from my view point. send in your TB and pay 105-150 to get it port and polished only for it to be a few MM larger and have almost 1 week down time. However, the inlet of the TB will perfectly match the opening of the IM so increase in air and no bottle neck
Where as option 2. 450 shipped or less for the TB + 70 for adapter = 13mm larger inlet and 15mm larger outlet. And very little down time. however, the TB will be tappered to the size of the IM because of such the large size different. Also with the spacer/ adapter you might need to cut your intake, or get it to fit somehow. Or can send it in to maxbore and have them try to match the IM opening to the adapter. But for you guys with the type-s Im its not going to be a big difference since the TL-S im doesn't have too much material to bore out in the first place. The Base/accord IM would have a better chance.
Option 3 105-150 to send it to maxbore + 50 for a use TB while you send your new one in. *cough cough there one in the F/s* very little down time. and it will work and not break the bank or leave you carless for 1 week
also I out down 105-150 since I dont know the exact price that they charge now, and you have to pay shipping to get it to them.
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^^^ I agree....depends on your needs thow....
just remember tooo much air is always not a good thing....the more you open your TB, the air velocity might decrease hence you loosing power....
I would say, if your planning to staying NA and not doing any heads/cams/etc work then just get it bored out and call it a day....
if you planning to get cams/bigger injectors/head work done, then look into 4G TL TB and prolly manifold....
just remember tooo much air is always not a good thing....the more you open your TB, the air velocity might decrease hence you loosing power....
I would say, if your planning to staying NA and not doing any heads/cams/etc work then just get it bored out and call it a day....
if you planning to get cams/bigger injectors/head work done, then look into 4G TL TB and prolly manifold....
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^^^ if you dont mind waiting until March, I will be going a with a 4G TL TB and Manifold for my build and will sell you pnp-ed manifold and TB....
but yeah am doing my build in march....too cold outside right now LOL...
but yeah am doing my build in march....too cold outside right now LOL...
02-12-2012, 04:45 PM
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^^^^^^
gayyy
Im workong so I cant gather all the info I need .. Using the oem accord tb 65/67.. What would it be bored too after pnp n evsrything?
Id want the TL but 300 is my max id spend unless I do my intake runners instead
I need to go home and read these new posts .....
gayyy
Im workong so I cant gather all the info I need .. Using the oem accord tb 65/67.. What would it be bored too after pnp n evsrything?
Id want the TL but 300 is my max id spend unless I do my intake runners instead
I need to go home and read these new posts .....
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I though I post the max bored size...
69 outlet and 69 inlet would be max unless you sleeve it so that i can be 71mm. The Gen8 TB is probably the same size so the base TL, type-s, Accord, and RL. They start swapping in larger TB for the gen4 TL and Gen 3 RL.
If u can't spare the down time either get a second set of IM and TB or buy another set that is pre-ported and polished like swoosh was suggesting.
69 outlet and 69 inlet would be max unless you sleeve it so that i can be 71mm. The Gen8 TB is probably the same size so the base TL, type-s, Accord, and RL. They start swapping in larger TB for the gen4 TL and Gen 3 RL.
If u can't spare the down time either get a second set of IM and TB or buy another set that is pre-ported and polished like swoosh was suggesting.
02-12-2012, 05:35 PM
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to be honest if maxbore raised their price your better off buying the 11 3.7TL SHAWD TB and getting an adapter plate so that you can put it on your TL.
Cuz from my view point. send in your TB and pay 105-150 to get it port and polished only for it to be a few MM larger and have almost 1 week down time. However, the inlet of the TB will perfectly match the opening of the IM so increase in air and no bottle neck
Where as option 2. 450 shipped or less for the TB + 70 for adapter = 13mm larger inlet and 15mm larger outlet. And very little down time. however, the TB will be tappered to the size of the IM because of such the large size different. Also with the spacer/ adapter you might need to cut your intake, or get it to fit somehow. Or can send it in to maxbore and have them try to match the IM opening to the adapter. But for you guys with the type-s Im its not going to be a big difference since the TL-S im doesn't have too much material to bore out in the first place. The Base/accord IM would have a better chance.
Option 3 105-150 to send it to maxbore + 50 for a use TB while you send your new one in. *cough cough there one in the F/s* very little down time. and it will work and not break the bank or leave you carless for 1 week
also I out down 105-150 since I dont know the exact price that they charge now, and you have to pay shipping to get it to them.
Cuz from my view point. send in your TB and pay 105-150 to get it port and polished only for it to be a few MM larger and have almost 1 week down time. However, the inlet of the TB will perfectly match the opening of the IM so increase in air and no bottle neck
Where as option 2. 450 shipped or less for the TB + 70 for adapter = 13mm larger inlet and 15mm larger outlet. And very little down time. however, the TB will be tappered to the size of the IM because of such the large size different. Also with the spacer/ adapter you might need to cut your intake, or get it to fit somehow. Or can send it in to maxbore and have them try to match the IM opening to the adapter. But for you guys with the type-s Im its not going to be a big difference since the TL-S im doesn't have too much material to bore out in the first place. The Base/accord IM would have a better chance.
Option 3 105-150 to send it to maxbore + 50 for a use TB while you send your new one in. *cough cough there one in the F/s* very little down time. and it will work and not break the bank or leave you carless for 1 week
also I out down 105-150 since I dont know the exact price that they charge now, and you have to pay shipping to get it to them.
Anil and I just talked about all this while he was also posting on here. The 3.7 TB is still 500 shipped. the adapter from P2R is to use the stock TB with with 09 Intake manifold, not the other way around. Adding just the TB wont due much cuz the IM is still 65mm iirc... Like Anil said, too much air is a bad thing.
tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728797
Its already been done.
02-12-2012, 05:52 PM
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This for N/A.
The motor is whats pulling air in. It knows how much air it needs. we change that by bore/stroke/cams/timing but theres only like 2 Tl's with cams.. Everyone else is just changing velocity(polishing) and volume (porting). Yes by porting we do gain some HP,TQ but thats just cuz Honda SLIGHTLY undersized things to probably maintain their ULEV,MPG, and/or to leave room for the TL-s. By porting, we gain about 4mm on the TB and IM which adds just enough air that the motor is already "asking" for(vaccum). Slapping on a TB with a 80mm inlet/70 outlet isnt doing anything more since the IM opening is ported at 68-69mm...
I just wrote a whole lot more than this then remembered where i learned it from so i'll just quote them lol
The motor is whats pulling air in. It knows how much air it needs. we change that by bore/stroke/cams/timing but theres only like 2 Tl's with cams.. Everyone else is just changing velocity(polishing) and volume (porting). Yes by porting we do gain some HP,TQ but thats just cuz Honda SLIGHTLY undersized things to probably maintain their ULEV,MPG, and/or to leave room for the TL-s. By porting, we gain about 4mm on the TB and IM which adds just enough air that the motor is already "asking" for(vaccum). Slapping on a TB with a 80mm inlet/70 outlet isnt doing anything more since the IM opening is ported at 68-69mm...
I just wrote a whole lot more than this then remembered where i learned it from so i'll just quote them lol
how much gains do you guys actually expect from these things?
unless your running boost....dont expect anything with these changes...and in some cases, you can expect loss of power...and a big waste of money
there's a reason why the TB is bigger on the 09...but that wouldn't make the same difference for your 3.2 or 3.5....
obviously 09 model is a bigger motor in terms of Litters... and just making a bigger motor doesn't make power, unless you let it breath efficiently and add the needed fuel (yes yes i know, captain obvious) ....a certain motor will only suck so much air...all based on the bore and stroke.... just because your TB is now so much bigger...it wont help anything... you can install a 5 inch TB...and it wont make the kinda difference you expect.... think about the CAI and how much research the techs put into it (im talking about real companies, not some "backyard" company, bending a pipe, spraying it with some nice shiny chrome, and calling it a CAI).... all the sizing and bending, and size changing at different spots, the length, bends...all make a difference in the velocity....which is very important.... its not so hard for Honda to have just installed a much bigger TB on everyone of their cars.... but you dont benefit from that...in fact...too big of a TB will ruin the velocity of air inside your IM, causing power loss....the only way to take advantage of all this is...to keep going deeper....start port matching...runners, heads, bore out ur sleves, even go a longer stroke if you can... thats when youll take advantage of these "bigger intake components"...you will actually need them, if you started from the bottom...
and going bigger on ur IM.... just increased volume for air that wont be able to get sucked into...bcs again, it is sized based on the size of ur motor..... im talking about our cars here....especially Hondas....
dont look at american cars...u change an air filter on them and u get 30 whp... theyve got big motors with huge restrictions...in fact they're de-tuned by means of bolt ons... thats not the case with our cars...
now here comes forced induction.... and things change.... this is when you can take advantage of a bigger bore TB....larger IM, if possible ported, and port matched runners...and blah blah blah
in forced induction is where all this makes big differences... obvioulsy, the more air you force into ur motor...the more power you will make (assuming ur adding the needed fuel)
hope i didnt ruin anyone's motivation on this TB & IM issue... if nothing else...just let it be my opinion and dont let it get to you...
by no means do i wanna bash out on anyone... but 600-800 dollars on these things, is a hell of a lot of money for nothing....unless ur boosted!.......
for that money...id recommend, lighter crank pulley, IM heatshield, and a bigger aluminum radiator with a higher pressure cap! ull gain more from this...
and you wouldn't risk hurting performance for sure
again just opinions and thoughts..
unless your running boost....dont expect anything with these changes...and in some cases, you can expect loss of power...and a big waste of money
there's a reason why the TB is bigger on the 09...but that wouldn't make the same difference for your 3.2 or 3.5....
obviously 09 model is a bigger motor in terms of Litters... and just making a bigger motor doesn't make power, unless you let it breath efficiently and add the needed fuel (yes yes i know, captain obvious) ....a certain motor will only suck so much air...all based on the bore and stroke.... just because your TB is now so much bigger...it wont help anything... you can install a 5 inch TB...and it wont make the kinda difference you expect.... think about the CAI and how much research the techs put into it (im talking about real companies, not some "backyard" company, bending a pipe, spraying it with some nice shiny chrome, and calling it a CAI).... all the sizing and bending, and size changing at different spots, the length, bends...all make a difference in the velocity....which is very important.... its not so hard for Honda to have just installed a much bigger TB on everyone of their cars.... but you dont benefit from that...in fact...too big of a TB will ruin the velocity of air inside your IM, causing power loss....the only way to take advantage of all this is...to keep going deeper....start port matching...runners, heads, bore out ur sleves, even go a longer stroke if you can... thats when youll take advantage of these "bigger intake components"...you will actually need them, if you started from the bottom...
and going bigger on ur IM.... just increased volume for air that wont be able to get sucked into...bcs again, it is sized based on the size of ur motor..... im talking about our cars here....especially Hondas....
dont look at american cars...u change an air filter on them and u get 30 whp... theyve got big motors with huge restrictions...in fact they're de-tuned by means of bolt ons... thats not the case with our cars...
now here comes forced induction.... and things change.... this is when you can take advantage of a bigger bore TB....larger IM, if possible ported, and port matched runners...and blah blah blah
in forced induction is where all this makes big differences... obvioulsy, the more air you force into ur motor...the more power you will make (assuming ur adding the needed fuel)
hope i didnt ruin anyone's motivation on this TB & IM issue... if nothing else...just let it be my opinion and dont let it get to you...
by no means do i wanna bash out on anyone... but 600-800 dollars on these things, is a hell of a lot of money for nothing....unless ur boosted!.......
for that money...id recommend, lighter crank pulley, IM heatshield, and a bigger aluminum radiator with a higher pressure cap! ull gain more from this...
and you wouldn't risk hurting performance for sureagain just opinions and thoughts..
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LOL i didn't say it couldn't be used for it. im saying its stupid since the IM opening is still 65mm. so you spend $600 on a slower car?? Add the IM from the 09 and then its a different story.. but still not worth $1000 (im$200, cover$200, TB$500, adapter$100) unless you are going FI or serious head work.
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Question,
Is the P2R spacer tapered down to the stock TL mani opening? So if you ported your mani, now you also have to port the spacer... Seems all stupid to me... Either get the IM AND TB from the 3.7(no spacer required $900), or get your IM and TB ported $250... or get the 3.7 Mani and port for TB(needs p2r adapter) $650.
Is the P2R spacer tapered down to the stock TL mani opening? So if you ported your mani, now you also have to port the spacer... Seems all stupid to me... Either get the IM AND TB from the 3.7(no spacer required $900), or get your IM and TB ported $250... or get the 3.7 Mani and port for TB(needs p2r adapter) $650.
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@InFaMouSLink. I agree with you its stupid to buy such a large and expensive TB just to tapper it down. Just showing you that it could be done since the guy had a 2011 3.7L SHAWD IM and was trying to figure out why he was getting a CEL for a vacuum leak. Turned out the IM was not correctly filled with honda bond and was leaking air.
As for the Adapter I believe it was tappered down but not sure how much. It could be to the IM size or could be a little bit bigger.
To be honest getting the 3.7L IM or TB is just stupid. Your basically spending over 500 bucks in either case just to see a minor increase in HP. The guy dyno about 7hp on the 3.0 accord with TL-S cams. Not really worth it. Where as if you port and polished the stock IM and TB for about the same cost or less sounds like a much better deal.
Like you said unless you have a built motor or going boost. Your not going to benefit from the larger IM and TB. And your going to realized that you could have gotten p2r runners, ported the stock IM, and TB and receive much better gains.
Also if MaxBore doesn't do it anymore Contact KingMotorSports. They will do it but charge a lot more. 175
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-216...dy-boring.aspx
and IM matching 90
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-217...ng-boring.aspx
@Hacura I am near eastridge mall
As for the Adapter I believe it was tappered down but not sure how much. It could be to the IM size or could be a little bit bigger.
To be honest getting the 3.7L IM or TB is just stupid. Your basically spending over 500 bucks in either case just to see a minor increase in HP. The guy dyno about 7hp on the 3.0 accord with TL-S cams. Not really worth it. Where as if you port and polished the stock IM and TB for about the same cost or less sounds like a much better deal.
Like you said unless you have a built motor or going boost. Your not going to benefit from the larger IM and TB. And your going to realized that you could have gotten p2r runners, ported the stock IM, and TB and receive much better gains.
Also if MaxBore doesn't do it anymore Contact KingMotorSports. They will do it but charge a lot more. 175
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-216...dy-boring.aspx
and IM matching 90
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-217...ng-boring.aspx
@Hacura I am near eastridge mall
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@InFaMouSLink. I agree with you its stupid to buy such a large and expensive TB just to tapper it down. Just showing you that it could be done since the guy had a 2011 3.7L SHAWD IM and was trying to figure out why he was getting a CEL for a vacuum leak. Turned out the IM was not correctly filled with honda bond and was leaking air.
As for the Adapter I believe it was tappered down but not sure how much. It could be to the IM size or could be a little bit bigger.
To be honest getting the 3.7L IM or TB is just stupid. Your basically spending over 500 bucks in either case just to see a minor increase in HP. The guy dyno about 7hp on the 3.0 accord with TL-S cams. Not really worth it. Where as if you port and polished the stock IM and TB for about the same cost or less sounds like a much better deal.
Like you said unless you have a built motor or going boost. Your not going to benefit from the larger IM and TB. And your going to realized that you could have gotten p2r runners, ported the stock IM, and TB and receive much better gains.
Also if MaxBore doesn't do it anymore Contact KingsMotorSports. They will do it but charge a lot more.
@Hacura I am near eastridge mall
As for the Adapter I believe it was tappered down but not sure how much. It could be to the IM size or could be a little bit bigger.
To be honest getting the 3.7L IM or TB is just stupid. Your basically spending over 500 bucks in either case just to see a minor increase in HP. The guy dyno about 7hp on the 3.0 accord with TL-S cams. Not really worth it. Where as if you port and polished the stock IM and TB for about the same cost or less sounds like a much better deal.
Like you said unless you have a built motor or going boost. Your not going to benefit from the larger IM and TB. And your going to realized that you could have gotten p2r runners, ported the stock IM, and TB and receive much better gains.
Also if MaxBore doesn't do it anymore Contact KingsMotorSports. They will do it but charge a lot more.
@Hacura I am near eastridge mall
NOT TO BE A DICK, but ^ doesn't sound like this:
to be honest if maxbore raised their price your better off buying the 11 3.7TL SHAWD TB and getting an adapter plate so that you can put it on your TL.
Cuz from my view point. send in your TB and pay 105-150 to get it port and polished only for it to be a few MM larger and have almost 1 week down time. However, the inlet of the TB will perfectly match the opening of the IM so increase in air and no bottle neck
Where as option 2. 450 shipped or less for the TB + 70 for adapter = 13mm larger inlet and 15mm larger outlet. And very little down time. however, the TB will be tappered to the size of the IM because of such the large size different. Also with the spacer/ adapter you might need to cut your intake, or get it to fit somehow. Or can send it in to maxbore and have them try to match the IM opening to the adapter. But for you guys with the type-s Im its not going to be a big difference since the TL-S im doesn't have too much material to bore out in the first place. The Base/accord IM would have a better chance.
Option 3 105-150 to send it to maxbore + 50 for a use TB while you send your new one in. *cough cough there one in the F/s* very little down time. and it will work and not break the bank or leave you carless for 1 week
also I out down 105-150 since I dont know the exact price that they charge now, and you have to pay shipping to get it to them.
Cuz from my view point. send in your TB and pay 105-150 to get it port and polished only for it to be a few MM larger and have almost 1 week down time. However, the inlet of the TB will perfectly match the opening of the IM so increase in air and no bottle neck
Where as option 2. 450 shipped or less for the TB + 70 for adapter = 13mm larger inlet and 15mm larger outlet. And very little down time. however, the TB will be tappered to the size of the IM because of such the large size different. Also with the spacer/ adapter you might need to cut your intake, or get it to fit somehow. Or can send it in to maxbore and have them try to match the IM opening to the adapter. But for you guys with the type-s Im its not going to be a big difference since the TL-S im doesn't have too much material to bore out in the first place. The Base/accord IM would have a better chance.
Option 3 105-150 to send it to maxbore + 50 for a use TB while you send your new one in. *cough cough there one in the F/s* very little down time. and it will work and not break the bank or leave you carless for 1 week
also I out down 105-150 since I dont know the exact price that they charge now, and you have to pay shipping to get it to them.
Maxbore =$160 shipped. Still cheaper than King and if Anil get it for us at 125, thats even better.
Im not promoting Maxbore at all, Im just giving out useful information.
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02-12-2012, 06:28 PM
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lol opps. You got me there.. haha I am doing HW while on the forum....
I was comparing getting it bored vs buying new. You have to take in account the down time.
However, if your not planing to build the motor or boosting. *you left that part out* Its is stupid. The J motor isn't like the LSx motors where you can slap on a fat ass TB with no other work being done, and get 1 billion hp in gains.
It might work out for you since you do have a S/C. In either case I am done playing with this motor. I am just going to wait for the new NSX and call it a day. lol
I was comparing getting it bored vs buying new. You have to take in account the down time.
However, if your not planing to build the motor or boosting. *you left that part out* Its is stupid. The J motor isn't like the LSx motors where you can slap on a fat ass TB with no other work being done, and get 1 billion hp in gains.
It might work out for you since you do have a S/C. In either case I am done playing with this motor. I am just going to wait for the new NSX and call it a day. lol
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02-12-2012, 06:31 PM
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Right from Kingmotorsports Manifold port matching webpage.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-217...ng-boring.aspx
"A larger throttle body may be just what your Honda/Acura performance engine needs - but that's only part of the solution. It doesn't matter how big your throttle body is if your intake isn't bored to match it. A 65mm throttle body will show no gain over a 60mm unit, unless the intake is bored to 65mm."
It'll be too expensive to actually ship the mani and then $90 for a porting...
Best bet would be do the throttlebody, and match the IM yourself. Its just porting. its just shading in the area you need gone and going in on it with a dremel
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-217...ng-boring.aspx
"A larger throttle body may be just what your Honda/Acura performance engine needs - but that's only part of the solution. It doesn't matter how big your throttle body is if your intake isn't bored to match it. A 65mm throttle body will show no gain over a 60mm unit, unless the intake is bored to 65mm."
It'll be too expensive to actually ship the mani and then $90 for a porting...
Best bet would be do the throttlebody, and match the IM yourself. Its just porting. its just shading in the area you need gone and going in on it with a dremel
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02-12-2012, 06:41 PM
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lol opps. You got me there.. haha I am doing HW while on the forum....
I was comparing getting it bored vs buying new. You have to take in account the down time.
However, if your not planing to build the motor or boosting. *you left that part out* Its is stupid. The J motor isn't like the LSx motors where you can slap on a fat ass TB with no other work being done, and get 1 billion hp in gains.
It might work out for you since you do have a S/C. In either case I am done playing with this motor. I am just going to wait for the new NSX and call it a day. lol
I was comparing getting it bored vs buying new. You have to take in account the down time.
However, if your not planing to build the motor or boosting. *you left that part out* Its is stupid. The J motor isn't like the LSx motors where you can slap on a fat ass TB with no other work being done, and get 1 billion hp in gains.
It might work out for you since you do have a S/C. In either case I am done playing with this motor. I am just going to wait for the new NSX and call it a day. lol
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i need to re-read page 17 tons tons tons of info....
tons tons tons of info....