Ported/Polished Upper Intake Manifold and Runners!
01-25-2012, 03:57 PM
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^^^ yeah i posted those up....
6MT with Intake/Greddy Exhaust and JnR 1 peice pcd's and jpipe made 249hp/231tq
the car with the intake and greddy exhaust made 226hp/205tq....i might have someone in KS tag along with me to the dyno
so a gain of 23hp/26TQ with PCD's and Jpipe....
6MT with Intake/Greddy Exhaust and JnR 1 peice pcd's and jpipe made 249hp/231tq
the car with the intake and greddy exhaust made 226hp/205tq....i might have someone in KS tag along with me to the dyno
so a gain of 23hp/26TQ with PCD's and Jpipe....
BTW you did a shitty job of labeling the videos lol
01-25-2012, 03:59 PM
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If I had the LsD for my car I'd be able to put the power down much better but wth the 6speed I would think I could hold 85% true to those dyno numbers , maybe I will do the throttle body .. But i don't want to go too ridiculous with HP I still want to achieve good gas mileage which had me thinking instead of throttle body maybe RDX injectors .. All the installs are free so I'm thinking one or the other and with income tax here I'm happy with ether
I'll check this thread later I'm working
I'll check this thread later I'm working
01-25-2012, 04:07 PM
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i did not label em, they came that way....i wanted to leave the original "essence" haha....
01-25-2012, 05:47 PM
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just to let you guys know I got a nice bump in MPG 1-2 increase on winter gas that has 10% ethanol in it. 
Along as you don't smash vtec all the time and do a mostly highway driving your good to go.
Along as you don't smash vtec all the time and do a mostly highway driving your good to go.
01-25-2012, 11:46 PM
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I need this cleared up cause I'm not sure u guys know your engines heads better than me
My buddy who's installing everything said that the J32manifold I'm getting installed might not fit only because the connections and hoses will not match with the new manifold
I really don't know so I googled my 3.5 honda engine and maybe u can tell me
.. I hate those Debbie downers who like bring down your excitement
My buddy who's installing everything said that the J32manifold I'm getting installed might not fit only because the connections and hoses will not match with the new manifold
I really don't know so I googled my 3.5 honda engine and maybe u can tell me
.. I hate those Debbie downers who like bring down your excitement
01-26-2012, 12:43 AM
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^^^ The throttle body + vac hose + PCV + butterfly motor looks the same to me 
01-26-2012, 12:52 AM
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See that's what I said , we went for drinks tonight and I told him about the pnp first words out of his mouth are Idk man gotta be careful don't wanna stretch the hoses they might not fit you should double check .. So im not dealing with any bs
Thanks swoosh you've been really helpful to me with ask my questions and my precautions
Thanks swoosh you've been really helpful to me with ask my questions and my precautions
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01-26-2012, 12:58 AM
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lol dont worry just do it and make sure you tq the bolts correctly. lol I messed up. I am getting BBK for the front and rear now. I think my car has enough power. Just nom nom a moddifed s2k and rsx-s at the same time.
01-26-2012, 11:27 AM
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See that's what I said , we went for drinks tonight and I told him about the pnp first words out of his mouth are Idk man gotta be careful don't wanna stretch the hoses they might not fit you should double check .. So im not dealing with any bs
Thanks swoosh you've been really helpful to me with ask my questions and my precautions
Thanks swoosh you've been really helpful to me with ask my questions and my precautions
Thought this might come in handy:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/d-103-tl-s-brembo-swap-parts-list-716463/
02-02-2012, 03:22 PM
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I was unde the impression this was a true pnp im but it looks like just the intake port and exit ports were pnp'd. I did this to my current IM with a dremel. Now Im Not so sure in buying cuz idk what would be the difference?
To the member who did the work, how far in is it pnp'd? As much as your dremel could reach or?
Sorry jut don't wanna drop 300 and see no gains..
To the member who did the work, how far in is it pnp'd? As much as your dremel could reach or?
Sorry jut don't wanna drop 300 and see no gains..
02-02-2012, 08:23 PM
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Just to let you guys know. I pulled the runners since had to do some work down there with the knock sensor. They are spotless. The intake manifold and tb looks like crap again.. Smooth is good. rough traps erg vapor and oil.
02-02-2012, 09:41 PM
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I did see 1-2 mpg improvement. I get used to get 32mpg highway. It now is bumped up to almost 34mpg highway. on local it more or less the same.
I am replacing a knock sensor and subharness now since it melted.......
Also I will be doing a valve adjustment so that I can see further increase in power.
I am replacing a knock sensor and subharness now since it melted.......
Also I will be doing a valve adjustment so that I can see further increase in power.
02-03-2012, 08:09 AM
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For mine I just added a air/oil seperator(catch can) to the pcv. For the EGR I had nva-av6 make me a egr spacer. Other option is deleting like innac.
02-05-2012, 07:41 PM
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gotta ask cause i bought the manifold PnP
on my accord 3.5 .. will the 3.2 be a issue? since im going from a magnesium manifold to aluminum?
biggest issue with my car is heat and knocking. Those 2 cause the car to pull massive timing so idk wtf to do lol
on my accord 3.5 .. will the 3.2 be a issue? since im going from a magnesium manifold to aluminum?
biggest issue with my car is heat and knocking. Those 2 cause the car to pull massive timing so idk wtf to do lol
02-05-2012, 09:58 PM
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I cannot think of how it will affect it negatively....yes i can think of it affecting positively...
I was gonna reply via email but will type my response here so Inaccurate (Tim) will be able to correct me where I go wrong....
Yes BIG 3 issues are:
1> HEAT
2> KNOCKING
3> WEIGHT
1> You cannot beat the heat but you can cool off and trick the ECU into thinking "its 100 out there but am still getting cool air"....how you ask:
a> UCM - Ultimate Cooling Mod
b> IAT relocation
c> TB coolant bypass
2> Knocking....I do not know much about this subject but I know the ECU retard timing....I know Tim has done quite some research and replaced/relocated his stock knock sensor....
3> Tim and Villie (i dont know his name) have done so many weight loosing mods to their cars that they can outrun a completely bolted-on SC-ed TL....
About your original question about the manifold....I have never seen a 3.2 manifold on a 3.5....it will work, yes but i do not know if it will adversely affect your performance....
yes if you port and polish your 3.5 manifold you will see good gains....
Yes BIG 3 issues are:
1> HEAT
2> KNOCKING
3> WEIGHT
1> You cannot beat the heat but you can cool off and trick the ECU into thinking "its 100 out there but am still getting cool air"....how you ask:
a> UCM - Ultimate Cooling Mod
b> IAT relocation
c> TB coolant bypass
2> Knocking....I do not know much about this subject but I know the ECU retard timing....I know Tim has done quite some research and replaced/relocated his stock knock sensor....
3> Tim and Villie (i dont know his name) have done so many weight loosing mods to their cars that they can outrun a completely bolted-on SC-ed TL....
About your original question about the manifold....I have never seen a 3.2 manifold on a 3.5....it will work, yes but i do not know if it will adversely affect your performance....
yes if you port and polish your 3.5 manifold you will see good gains....
02-05-2012, 10:33 PM
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Im waiting on andy to respond to me but im going to see if i can get a bored throttle body and than get the PnP intake runners
As much as I'd love to have the runners I'm nervous to do them , after talking to thisazinboi I might look into rl 3.7 manifold but I'd rather do runner and tb for now
The tb I found universal 70mm but maybe Andy can help me out because doing runners would be zero problem , and the throttle body I don't see causing any issues if it's bored to 70mm
But I gotta talk to Andy first lol
Swoosh u had swapped your oem 3.2 for a pnp 3.2 correct?
As much as I'd love to have the runners I'm nervous to do them , after talking to thisazinboi I might look into rl 3.7 manifold but I'd rather do runner and tb for now
The tb I found universal 70mm but maybe Andy can help me out because doing runners would be zero problem , and the throttle body I don't see causing any issues if it's bored to 70mm
But I gotta talk to Andy first lol
Swoosh u had swapped your oem 3.2 for a pnp 3.2 correct?
02-05-2012, 11:19 PM
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^^^ yup....Just to tell you Andy does great a great freaking job....
I got my manifold and runners ported and polished from Andy....i would honestly tell you to not get super duper confused....talk to a guy who knows his shit and follow his advice....
i talk to Andy for my port and polish needs....he knows his stuff....
about mods which I think of but dont know how they will turn out, I talk to Tim LOL...
bottomline is take advise and live by it....dont go running around thinking if the adviser is right or wrong
I got my manifold and runners ported and polished from Andy....i would honestly tell you to not get super duper confused....talk to a guy who knows his shit and follow his advice....
i talk to Andy for my port and polish needs....he knows his stuff....
about mods which I think of but dont know how they will turn out, I talk to Tim LOL...
bottomline is take advise and live by it....dont go running around thinking if the adviser is right or wrong
02-05-2012, 11:34 PM
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I'm not confused I just don't want long term issues using a different material intake manifold , I'd rather just do my runners and throttle body Cause I know it's safer , my father bought me the car as a birthday gift literally handed me the keys but he said u mod it I take it away , I still mod it but if I fuck the engine up o boy lol
Looking forward to the next couple weeks though just need Andy to get back to me before it's too late lol
Looking forward to the next couple weeks though just need Andy to get back to me before it's too late lol
02-06-2012, 01:11 PM
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^^^ with the manifold you will not mess up the engine....
yes once you dig into cams and valves and springs and retainers, dive into the heads, then your changes increase....
the reason i love the port and polish mods is because no one can notice that there are any mods done to the car
but all i can tell you is you wont mess anything up but using a different material manifold....about gains/losses if the 3.5 pnp will be better than 3.2 pnp i would ask around....
yes once you dig into cams and valves and springs and retainers, dive into the heads, then your changes increase....
the reason i love the port and polish mods is because no one can notice that there are any mods done to the car
but all i can tell you is you wont mess anything up but using a different material manifold....about gains/losses if the 3.5 pnp will be better than 3.2 pnp i would ask around....
02-06-2012, 07:13 PM
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his OEM manifold is magnesium. I told him not to switch since the 3.2 is aluminium. Magnesium is lighter and far less prone to heat soak then the aluminium one. Even with p2r gasket, outlaw engineering gasket, and coolant by past the aluminium one gets unbearably hot. The magnesium also gets hot but at least you won't be cooking eggs on it.
02-06-2012, 10:16 PM
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Here's a very detailed write up on swapping the runners on an Accord. I used this guide. Gets a hair tricky here and there, but pretty straightforward.
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=58642
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=58642
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02-06-2012, 10:44 PM
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his OEM manifold is magnesium. I told him not to switch since the 3.2 is aluminium. Magnesium is lighter and far less prone to heat soak then the aluminium one. Even with p2r gasket, outlaw engineering gasket, and coolant by past the aluminium one gets unbearably hot. The magnesium also gets hot but at least you won't be cooking eggs on it.
i do have everything pnp-ed including the MDX spacer and it feels great....i just havent dyno-ed with and without for a solid conclusion....i gotta do that thow....
Here's a very detailed write up on swapping the runners on an Accord. I used this guide. Gets a hair tricky here and there, but pretty straightforward.
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=58642
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=58642
but yeah its pretty straight forward....you see a bolt you pop it off LOL...
only tricky part is putting the injectors back in....i applied a little engine oil on the edge of the injector so it slides in easy (Andy told me that trick and it has worked like a charm)....
02-07-2012, 02:46 AM
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I found that site earlier but not the exact page with the DIY. It's a very good DIY.
Anyone know the fuse number to release fuel pressure? How similar are our cars to this Accord?
Anyone know the fuse number to release fuel pressure? How similar are our cars to this Accord?
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02-07-2012, 07:04 AM
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Copy and paste this link into your browser. Remove the red X before submitting. Acurazine blocks any links to that forum. So, this is why it must be disguised with the red X.
http://www.driveXaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58642
http://www.driveXaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58642
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02-07-2012, 11:45 AM
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Gotta quick question here....kinda off topic....
anyone know the dimension of the 4G TL TB/Manifold/Runners and if it will fit the 3G TL ?
am really considering that....
anyone know the dimension of the 4G TL TB/Manifold/Runners and if it will fit the 3G TL ?
am really considering that....
02-07-2012, 11:55 AM
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The 3.7L mani will fit the 3G TL. I believe the TB is 76mm opening and 70 where it meets the mani. It can be bored to 80/72 I believe, but that's it. The manifold fits with the 3G stock TB with the P2R adapter and a couple gaskets.
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^^^ you are the tits man LOL
thanks....80/72 sounds great....am at 71.xx/66.xx right now....that will show some gains even if i drop the redline back.....but yeah....gonna make a "built" thread and post some options there
thanks....80/72 sounds great....am at 71.xx/66.xx right now....that will show some gains even if i drop the redline back.....but yeah....gonna make a "built" thread and post some options there
