NetoAzul

I personally believe that FWD performance is silly, my TL has enough power to get up and go, but i would like to get a chip to increase my MPG's. so i found this chip that says it will increase my HP(which i dont care) and my MPG's(which i care) but i don't know if i should trust it.
and does Hondata make anything for TL's to increase MPG's??
http://performancechipsnow.com/Acura...TL%201995-2010


I'm still new here and i couldn't find a thread on this subject.

justnspace

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buy it.
test it out.
then open it.

all it is; is a box with resistors in it.
the resistors try and TRICK the ECU.

our ECU's are very smart and will outsmart this simple trick.

Our ECU's will always keep Air/fuel ratios CONSTANT. NO MATTER WHAT.
what this means, is that "chip" is full of SHIT.

you didnt find any threads on it because it doesnt work.
and anytime a thread does pop up, it gets closed because we just make fun of the OP.

NetoAzul

I see, that makes sense. thanks bro.

TheChamp531

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You can always put one on each butt cheek and it will help you run a better 1/4 mile?

EvilVirus

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Hold on crabs $50 for 75 caballos.....ordering mine now

JJH

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I got sUpErGAinZ by doing this.

NetoAzul

^^^^^ love that Lmao!!! ^^^^^

Tebaz06TL

yea that seems completely bogus.

Otacon

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Do it OP.

pacosta

Keep us posted ! Would like to see results

justnspace

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^why, i already told you the results.

the TL's on board computer or ECU will automatically adjust for Air/fuel ratios, keeping them constant. AT ALL TIMES.

if you read the description of this so called chip, thats exactly what the resistors are trying to do. TRICK the ECU into thinking that it sees a lower A/F ratio.

the TL's ECU will compensate in less than a second.

Not to mention the bogus "+75HP" gain.

pacosta

^ lol fail on my part

AbyssPearlTL

if you think fwd performance is silly why did you buy a fwd car and then go on the performance section of a forum for previously mentioned car?

NetoAzul

i bought it because my evo wasn't made for for highway distances, and it gets better mpg's.

I posted this here because its also the modification section.

JJH

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LOL WUT.

You should have bought a Prius...seriously. You already have your performance needs satisfied...even a TSX would have fit you better.

justnspace

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^now now, JJH, play nice.
everyone has different reasons why they chose their particular TL.

NetoAzul

It looked better, rides more comfortably and a V6 that's getting me 30 hwy is better than 21hwy lol

lumyeinjun

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OP, Justin is absolutely correct about our ECU, it's a very.... territorial animal. Doesn't like being told what to do haha. This is the reason HONDATA doesn't make any products for the 3G; it's too much trouble.

I would have to disagree with your statement that performance on a fwd is silly, though. I won't try to persuade you, because that would be a waste of my time.

However, if you want to increase mpg, your best hope is in your personal ECU: your brain. Feather-foot it from each complete stop and keep the highway cruises to 55mph max. This is hands down the most cost-efficient and simply method to obtaining a better MPG.

You can also perform inexpensive modifications to you car to improve its aerodynamics. There is a forum called ecomodders that is entirely dedicated to modifying to improve mpg, and there are very knowledgeable members on there who can be of huge help. I can recommend adding a cheap laminated cardboard body-pan to the underside of your car.

Please don't bash on the fwd layout though, it just makes you look stubborn and uneducated.

NetoAzul

I've been driving like a grandma and shifting under 2000rpm's, i just didn't know if their was anything else to increase my mpg's. I've manage to get 31hwy. I also drive behind semi's, and try not to use cruise control.

I'm not uneducated when it comes to performance, I've had my good share of performance cars.

justnspace

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simply put, in the city with lots of stop and go traffic, you'll get sucky mileage.

JJH

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Already told you once but I will tell you again. You should not be upshifting that early in the RPM range. You are placing more stress on the torque converter and not taking advantage of mechanical leverage causing more heat build up. We all know more heat causes less efficiency.

Source: Ihatecars

hp1kw

31mpg highway seems a bit low. You should drive faster.

GKinColo08TL

You guys are hilarious, but I do agree...wondering why he would buy a car that gets 30+ mpg, all specs indicate this and then want to mod it to get better mileage...should have bought a Camry Hybrid, or a Prius, his post just doesn't make sense. Pay $15K to get a car to get 10 mpg more than the Evo he has...you can buy a shitload of gas for $15K.

NetoAzul

(((You guys are hilarious, but I do agree...wondering why he would buy a car that gets 30+ mpg, all specs indicate this and then want to mod it to get better mileage...should have bought a Camry Hybrid, or a Prius, his post just doesn't make sense. Pay $15K to get a car to get 10 mpg more than the Evo he has...you can buy a shitload of gas for $15K.)))

lol i was just wondering if its was possible, prius and camry have no respect or look good at all. i'm not super worried about mpg's. '
i love my TL, I'm very happy with it and it does for the reason i bought it for, quiet, a bit more fuel effcient, and more confortable than the evo.

lumyeinjun

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I said what I did because you stated "performance on a fwd is silly."

You come off as uneducated because there in fact are a good number of high performing fwd cars. If you have ever been in the racing scene at all, you would know that there are many, many fwd civics, integras, cobalts, maximas, sentras and other fwd based cars that run great times both at the drag-strip and at the road courses.

Owning a number of performance cars does not automatically make you educated; it simply means you have owned many performance cars. Justin Bieber has owned many performance cars as well, but I don't think many would consider him an encyclopedia of performance.

Yes, I would prefer a RWD layout at the drag-strip and yes, I would prefer an AWD layout for road-racing, but that in no way automatically makes performance on a FWD "silly." You may or may not know a thing or two about performance, but it is evident that you do not know how to live up to your wrongs.

An apology for insulting everyone on this forum who has added performance modifications to their FWD Acuras would have sufficed.

NetoAzul

Listen man I don't want enemies here, I've had and Integra gsr and a VW gti in the past and dropped lots of money on them only to find out that I still got beaten by rwd, awd in every way. Don't get me wrong its fun to drive them and all but it not my thing.
Sorry if I offended anybody here with my comments.
I just wanted advice, tips on my TL.

Bruce Banner

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Swap out for lighter wheels if possible

crbnfbr

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You said earlier you follow semis. I hope you don't follow too close, because at 70mph you will travel travel 10.5ft or .019 seconds behind the semi. That's less than twice as long as it takes to blink your eye let alone get of the gas and hit the brake pedal.

Just my advice, take it or leave it, but always travel 2 seconds behind the car in front of you. At 70ph that equates to 102ft per second. I personally when I have a car ride my ass I just slow down to 10mph below the speed limit. If I'm going to get rear ended it might as well be at a lower speed.

losiglow

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There isn't a ton of modifications you can do to get better MPG's in the TL (or any other car that I know of). But lightening your ride a bit with the TL diet and modifying your driving style can help quite a bit. I get an average of 31mpg with about 50% highway, 50% city driving. My "city" driving isn't downtown style however. Lights about every mile rather than every city block (quarter mile). Still, my commute to work is 23 miles with 18 lights so 31mpg isn't too bad.

johnfilice

I hope you enjoy replacing windshields. I avoid tailing semis at all costs because every time i do, about 60 seconds later i hear a rock smacking my windshield. Same with lifted trucks w/o mud flaps

Also, cruise control is your friend. you can never keep as constant of a speed with your foot. Fluctuation in throttle = less mpg. Constant speed = more mpg

losiglow

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^ Problem is, cruise control does both of those. It fluctuates throttle in order to maintain a constant speed.

I find that it only really helps if I'm on a long stretch of highway and don't anticipate needing to brake or adjust speed anytime soon. That doesn't happen very often for me.

johnfilice

That is the purpose of CC all right .... Like I said, it is much more efficient at keeping you at a constant speed than your foot can.

NetoAzul

I use CC on long trips, but i drive over hills on my way home so CC likes to down shift every time and rev up.. so what i'll do is on the way down i like it get up to 60 or 65 and when i start the up hill, i go easy on the throttle and slow down to 50.. (speed limit is 55mph)
like i said im not super crazy about mpg's but premium gas keeps going up, but trying to get better mpg's is like a challenge for me lol and i don't back down from a challenge