So I did search. I came up with what I want to do/need to do with my TL to get the the maximum performance from it. I can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars so I am going to take it step by step.

By June I will have a CAI. After that what should I get?

I am thinking a catback exhaust? Then jpipe, and PCD? Anyway to avoid the rasp with PCD?

If anybody can chime in that would be great.

 

Don't get the CAI (I got one, no gains whatsoever). Get the PCD and Jpipe, then exhaust.

 

Agree dont get the CAI. waste of money.

it does not matter what order you buy, as long as you can afford the mods.
- PCD's (but comes with rasp)
- if you dont want rasp, opt for the High flow cats.
- Jpipe
- catback exhaust
- port and polish intake manifold and runners.
- J&R New ECU (Tunable)

those are all the power mods available. some cost moar than others. some have drawbacks. its your prerogative to research and find out which ones are right for you.



by the way, your username is very fitting

 

I just took off the intake resonator this weekend and it sounds awesome. mod was free and I bet I got the same gains with it as a $200+ intake

 

Thanks Justin you always point out my username :P. Didn't hear about the ECU news. Last I checked a few months ago hoping for Hondata type ECU flash for the TL it was not available.

Did this ECU flash come out recently? I will try to search in a bit but if you have the time time *hint* *12k posts* maybe you can post it :P.

 

Hondata gave up.

J&R will have a NA tune eventually.

If you change from not wanting to spend hundreds, to tens of thousands, then you can consider FI

 

Spoke to Rodney at J&R today. The ECU for N.A. Motors is available. Pretty impressive numbers from their test car at J&R. I think he said someone on the this forum bought one and will have it in a few weeks. Should be pretty much plug and play from what I understand, maybey some minor air/fuel adj. Can't wait to read the posts from whoever got it!

 

What were the numbers?

 

I believe close to 40whp and I also think that was with stock exhaust.

 

Check out post 97 in this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=806456&page=2

 

I've spoke with them, it's more like 30WHP with stock primary cats, RV6 Long Jpipe + cat back!!! Still they are great #,
I'm actually quite impress that you can add 30 WHP just with an ECU tuning with not that much mods.

I'm currently trying to install an APEXI V-AFC witch control Vtec and A/F ratio, a tuning shop near my town have been able to reach 25WHP on a J32A2, and this tuner cost only 300$ instead of 1400$ but both cost a lot of $$$ on dyno fine tuning :P.

 

I don't where you guys are coming up with these 30-40 hp figures. The one N/A Type-S they tuned with it, made 20 whp/25tq. Unless they've done more testing?

 

When I spoke to Rodney I had a bad cell phone connection, but I'm pretty sure he said that on an 04 TL Manual Trans, they got close to 280whp. He is a great guy and spoke to me for about 10 minutes but my connection kept cutting out. I'm not sure when the latest tests/dyno's were done. I had my hopes on 25 to 35whp with ECU and Jpipe, PCD's on my 04.

 

Even 25HP is decent for a NA car from just a tune. Now combine that with all the bolt ons. You can get a decent amount of power. Does this chip improve the 0-60 times at all?

And what is the price of this chip?

 

I imagine with enough power gain you will improve 0-60, but I don't know how much more hp is enugh to notice a difference. I think the cost is around $1300.00. Like KN-TL said, check this out.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showt...=806456&page=2

 

Agreed on all^. Damn I wish could see your avatar in a full size picture!

 

I'm saving for this!

and in for whoever bought the ECU.

 

Do you know if that 280 whp on the '04 was on a dynojet and whether it was STD or SAE corrected?

I'm probably around low 250's SAE/low 260's STD. I'd like to get up to 280 SAE and I think with this ecu and some IM and runner porting I can do it.

 

Not sure of the specifics for the dyno, but there is a guy near me with a Mustang all wheel dyno, so that is what I'll use.

 

On the website for the J&R site it says the car produced 20HP. $1300 for 20HP is a bit too much. Rather turbo charge then spend $6k on boltons that will produce a maximum of 50HP.

Even the hondata flash is only $700 and I thought that was ridiculous. Wish the chips were easy to get as they are on the BMW's and cost even cheaper. >(

 

That's the way it is when staying N/A on imports. It's not cheap to mod them, but $1300 isn't bad for the results when you consider a catback gives you 7 or 8 whp for a grand.

 

but aren't you about to spend ~$250 on a cai for "performance" even though it really just makes the car louder?

 

Dont worry, his name explains it all.

 

I think your $$ to HP ratio is a little off. But the way I see it is, for ECU, Jpipe, HFC's, its closer to 3k and I would expect 25-35 WHP and no compromising driveability. Depends what your looking for I guess.

 

ok so Ive tried to learn about this J&R ECU, but I'm just not getting it. i read that thread and everything, but the jist I'm getting is that its a replacement for the stock ECU and plugs right in? And then its just about putting the car on a dyno and tuning it?

 

^there was never a viable tuning option for us.
this new ecu is a piggy back. which means the original ecu is still in place.
what this new ecu does for us, is that it will be able to extract some extra power from our cars.

 

JUStIN lETS GET THe ECu TogEtHer!

 

Not to jack this thread, but...
If there are a few or more people that are seriously considering this ECU please post up so we can see if J&R might offer any price break.

 

Yeah, I wonder if he'd do a group buy.

 

Its easy to charge what you want when your the only one with the product! No hate to J&R but i am just saying. Nothing for the TL is cheap, its not a civic.

Dont throw away your money on an intake, save and get a J-Pipe.

 

lol give me some moar time....I wanna finish my bolt ons first!!!!

 

Even with your bolt-ons you can't beat my stock TL brah

 

^money?

 

After I do some dieting.

 

So since everyone says that a CIA is a waste of money. I have a scenario what about if your stock intake was crushed a little further down then the air box and not useable. Would you then see worthwhile to buy a CIA or replace with stock parts?

 

^^^The CIA is not a waste of money. They effectively captured and killed osama bin laden.

 

LOL ooops should have read that before i posted it that should be CAI not CIA.

 

If you have a damaged stock airbox then you might as well replace it with a CAI.

 

OMFG, new sig coming

 

Wow....$1300 for 20whp, good thing this isn't my racecar