I've been looking into the PCD's and have read about the big gains they have been known for. I know about "paying to play" and all that stuff but being the poor college student to be that I am, I look to save money where I can. When installing my exhaust my friend recommended that instead of installing a hi-flow cat I could just take a pipe and bust out all of the metals on the inside to hollow it out. I was recently thinking about the PCD's and was wondering if it would be a good idea to just do that to the PCD's.

Any input on the idea would be great. I love this forum and all the member's knowledge lol

Thanks guys.

 

This has been covered ad nauseam. Most think it's silly to destroy $800 worth of cats to gain a little power, since part of the gain from high flow cats and full deletes comes from the improved, less restrictive piping coming right out of the heads. You're still going to have that restriction with the stock cats even if you punch out the substrate.

 

I haven't seen the inside or anything but the stock cats look to open up on the inside. Is this not the case?

 

Please search because there was another member doing the same. There is a reason why Richie has a 3rd revised version of his PCD. MIL eliminator locations, thicker diameter tubing (for several reasons), etc etc, etc. Research and development is a huge factor in cost. $375 is a great deal for the hp gains!

 

yea i know his are great but like i said im trying to save money where i can. and yea i always do search but i may not have mastered it yet cause it rarely works.

 

Yes the searches always come up with something "wack" so it does take some getting use to. There have been used sets being sold here for around $250.

 

Here's a trick.
Google "acurazine + whatever you're looking for"

and as time goes on, you'll learn the titles to important threads.
just google "acurazine + title" and the thread automatically pops up.

 

thanks for the hint man.

 

man i wish i had a TL when i was 18... oh wait, i was 19 when i got the 1G...

but besides the fact... i remember being in your shoes... it is tough to want to mod your car and not have the funds to do it... but take a lesson learned... just save and do it right... and like others have said, you can always look for used ones...

 

^good advice.

or, you could just rob banks. thats how i fund my modding addiction.

 

me too man just don't tell anyone and your secret is safe with me haha

 

try the armored trucks. they are a lot easier.

 

^only if you have high powered rifles

 

its ok i have a rocket launcher

 

Just steal my iPad, its worth $900.

 

^sorry champ.

 

^no worries

On a serious note, I'd rob the armored truck just how the move "Takers" did. BLOW UP THE FLOOOR

 

There is also the issue of availability of the RV6 PCD's, or should I say nonavailability. I agree that it's better to wait who-knows-how-long for a quality product than to butcher the stock Pre-cats.

 

Rather than spend the money on PCD's save it for gas money!

 

^^ I have a gas card from my parents.. lol

 

spoiled rich kid haha jk

 

^I'll say it spoiled rich kid. (NO JK)

I wish I got a free gas card especially when I spend like $400 a month of gas.

 

if i didnt play soccer all the time and basically pay off college than i would have to have a job and pay for everything... so dont worry its not tooo bad haha

 

Eh. I don't want to be that guy but there are many people out there making these, such as NVA-AV6 (paul) and now PR2 is making a resonated version. Paul made me a set and there is zero rasp or rattle. I upgraded to the Stainless - T304L (American made) because with the install procedure its better safe than sorry IMO, (Just incase).

You are right about research and development. I actually just saw richies V3 products in person and I was upset with his exhaust, but it sounded REALLY nice. V2 pre-cats are made better than V1/V2 but V2 came out because V1's were cracking. He also mentioned how the V3's are thicker, but easier to make in his thread.

These companies don't just put time and effort for nothing..

"Hollowing" out the stock pre-cats is not happening, and isn't possible. It would give you the worst back pressure and even cutting the flanges off and putting a tube there isn't happening either because it will crack and break FAST. Trust me, I studied them/tried/asked a lot of knowledgeable car guys/companies their opinions.

Second that, its ridiculous.