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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Need some advice for my first modification

The only performance mod I have is exhaust. It's not even full exhaust so I'm not sure if that would be considered an upgrade, but anyway, I wanna take the next step. I wanna get a CAI (which feel free to suggest any good ones to me) and I was thinking maybe throttle body (which I also am not sure if any are better than others). I'm not trying to spend too much money, but I want a little extra kick to it. Let me know if this sounds like a decent start though. Thanks!
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Cai is normal place 2 start, it lightens an adds power. I would suggest building a 4" cai, u can purchase the mandreal aluminum bends on ebay for $85, I got a nice aem 9" long 4"wide from my local honda shop for $55, p2r has bung to weld for $10. An im sure u have a welder friend if not a metal fab shop can put it together, or silicon couples. Good for about 15hp 15tq.I have even seen people do out 4" pvc, but in my opinion thats tacky, but cost effective. Unorthidox underdrive pulley is another nice cheaper mod , I believe both will give you alittle better gas milage. The TL sh awd throttle body is about $550 it has inlet outlet mm of 70/80. The zdx throttle body is about $190 with a 70/78 they both require a conversation spacer from p2r another $130 or so I believe. The throttlebody is good for 5 or 6 hp with the TL shawd
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Its a very general question. What are you looking for? Power? Handling?

Handling: get the progress rear sway bar.

Power: intake wont do a who lot but it will improve engine response.
Factory MDx Spacer: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/factory-im-spacer-17108-rdj-a00-727819/
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by unknownsTL
Cai is normal place 2 start, it lightens an adds power. I would suggest building a 4" cai, u can purchase the mandreal aluminum bends on ebay for $85, I got a nice aem 9" long 4"wide from my local honda shop for $55, p2r has bung to weld for $10. An im sure u have a welder friend if not a metal fab shop can put it together, or silicon couples. Good for about 15hp 15tq.I have even seen people do out 4" pvc, but in my opinion thats tacky, but cost effective. Unorthidox underdrive pulley is another nice cheaper mod , I believe both will give you alittle better gas milage. The TL sh awd throttle body is about $550 it has inlet outlet mm of 70/80. The zdx throttle body is about $190 with a 70/78 they both require a conversation spacer from p2r another $130 or so I believe. The throttlebody is good for 5 or 6 hp with the TL shawd
CAI good for 15 hp/15 tq......lol, no.

OP, the factory CAI is pretty efficient until you start opening up the stock manifold by porting it or switching to one of the 3.7 intake manifolds. And as far as changing the throttle body, again, the stock 64mm is more than enough for the stock manifold. You'll be lucky to see 3 hp from just adding one of the commercially available intakes at this point, and probably nothing adding a larger TB to the stock manifold.

Best bang for your current buck is PCD's or high flow precats. After that I'd recommend a J pipe and finish the cat back. Once all that's done, there's more power to be made with a 3.7 manifold, larger TB, ported runners and then this is where the larger 3.5 or 4" intake will benefit you. Also, not sure what year your car is, but Flashpro is available from Hondata for the 07-08's.
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Best bang for your current buck is PCD's or high flow precats. After that I'd recommend a J pipe and finish the cat back. Once all that's done, there's more power to be made with a 3.7 manifold, larger TB, ported runners and then this is where the larger 3.5 or 4" intake will benefit you. Also, not sure what year your car is, but Flashpro is available from Hondata for the 07-08's.
this.
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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OP start here

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/performance-modifications-tl-owners-701772/
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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I'd recommend the AEM V2 intake:

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...c/i-47067.aspx

Also our XLR8 V2 j-pipe will be your best modification in terms of power gains, especially for the price.

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...i-1804833.aspx
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
I'd recommend the AEM V2 intake:

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...c/i-47067.aspx

Also our XLR8 V2 j-pipe will be your best modification in terms of power gains, especially for the price.

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...i-1804833.aspx
Bullshit.

PCD's are a better bang for the buck than any J pipe, even though I feel your J pipe is the best.
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Dynos shown jpipe gives more torque than pcds. But pcds give more hp so there pretty even in terms of gains. Just pcds sound weird and smell bad.
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
CAI good for 15 hp/15 tq......lol, no.

OP, the factory CAI is pretty efficient until you start opening up the stock manifold by porting it or switching to one of the 3.7 intake manifolds. And as far as changing the throttle body, again, the stock 64mm is more than enough for the stock manifold. You'll be lucky to see 3 hp from just adding one of the commercially available intakes at this point, and probably nothing adding a larger TB to the stock manifold.

Best bang for your current buck is PCD's or high flow precats. After that I'd recommend a J pipe and finish the cat back. Once all that's done, there's more power to be made with a 3.7 manifold, larger TB, ported runners and then this is where the larger 3.5 or 4" intake will benefit you. Also, not sure what year your car is, but Flashpro is available from Hondata for the 07-08's.

mine is a 2004.
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Bullshit.

PCD's are a better bang for the buck than any J pipe, even though I feel your J pipe is the best.
Where do you derive this from? The j-pipe has shown to make more power than the PCD's from every dyno graph we've seen. Perhaps I'm wrong but I just haven't seen a graph that proved otherwise.

Also it's important to keep in mind that the XLR8 V2 j-pipe and others similar to it only eliminate the third cat, which isn't a monitored cat and isn't a primary cat. To achieve significant gains without altering emissions significantly is well worth a few bucks on its own.
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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Lighter wheels and sport tires (grip) = faster times. Invest in some once you get some bolt-ons going in if you have all-seasons on.
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
Lighter wheels and sport tires (grip) = faster times. Invest in some once you get some bolt-ons going in if you have all-seasons on.
He is right. Lighter wheels and tires make your car accelerate faster, brake faster, increase grip, and is really the best mod for performance if you're really looking to get into it.
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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I can tell you this much I started with suspension, bracing an braking. I didn't realize the benefits to those mods until I aquired another 6mt TL stock. My car handles amazingly compared to stock. I can say lightening the car some is free, an a great mod for these cars. Its 3500 lb luxury car, there are some great threads about dropping unneeded weight, you can follow these threads an go as far as u wish. It makes car perform better at every avenue, acceration, braking, cornering, gas milage ect. The car will just feel toss able compared to.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jpm3071
He is right. Lighter wheels and tires make your car accelerate faster, brake faster, increase grip, and is really the best mod for performance if you're really looking to get into it.
I have the Type-S rims. Awhile back I was looking into some lightweight rims, but was told the Type-S rims were already lightweight so I stopped looking around. Was i told wrong?
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
I'd recommend the AEM V2 intake:

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...c/i-47067.aspx

Also our XLR8 V2 j-pipe will be your best modification in terms of power gains, especially for the price.

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...i-1804833.aspx

Maybe I'm not looking at this right, but I can get approximately 20 hp increase from an intake and J-pipe alone? If im right, that seems like a good amount of power for the price.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Just spitballing here but I am guessin OEM rims at 25 lbs. lightweight maybe 17 lbs. huge savings in unsprung rotating mass.
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