Need a new clutch and a few other questions
#1
Need a new clutch and a few other questions
Is there a particular clutch for our cars that is better/higher recommended than another? Do any reputable vendors carry them?
I have a 2008 Type S (manual trans, obviously). I dug around a bit and see that Clutch Masters makes a few, but for a general street setup I wanted to see what you guys recommend.
My other question (for now) is regarding the 3rd/4th gears. I had the service bulletin done where there is something wrong with the synchros so it is hard to engage the gears... but it's happening again. I remember several years ago when this first happened, that someone recommended putting in Chevrolet Corvette ATF in the gearbox, and the different fluid would help minimze the symptoms. Does anyone have any advice for me? It's really annoying mis-shifting third gear sometimes.
I have a 2008 Type S (manual trans, obviously). I dug around a bit and see that Clutch Masters makes a few, but for a general street setup I wanted to see what you guys recommend.
My other question (for now) is regarding the 3rd/4th gears. I had the service bulletin done where there is something wrong with the synchros so it is hard to engage the gears... but it's happening again. I remember several years ago when this first happened, that someone recommended putting in Chevrolet Corvette ATF in the gearbox, and the different fluid would help minimze the symptoms. Does anyone have any advice for me? It's really annoying mis-shifting third gear sometimes.
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this guy has a aggressive clutch
J series Action clutch, LUK flywheel, TO Bearing and Pilot Bearing - Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums
J series Action clutch, LUK flywheel, TO Bearing and Pilot Bearing - Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums
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this guy has a aggressive clutch
J series Action clutch, LUK flywheel, TO Bearing and Pilot Bearing - Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums
J series Action clutch, LUK flywheel, TO Bearing and Pilot Bearing - Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums
That's probably what it was and I just remembered incorrectly. Thank you so much for that, because using ATF would be horrible now that I think about it, haha!
#7
Three Wheelin'
I recommend one of the following:
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec lightweight flywheel
Or
Clutchmasters FX250 clutch
Clutchmasters or AASCO lightweight flywheel (same flywheel so shop for best price)
Along with shifter bushings from Heeltoe, st/st clutch line, Comptech short throw shifter and a knob.
You'll have a nice shift with ~10-20% firmer pedal feel and more power to the ground, primarily in the first 3 gears.
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec lightweight flywheel
Or
Clutchmasters FX250 clutch
Clutchmasters or AASCO lightweight flywheel (same flywheel so shop for best price)
Along with shifter bushings from Heeltoe, st/st clutch line, Comptech short throw shifter and a knob.
You'll have a nice shift with ~10-20% firmer pedal feel and more power to the ground, primarily in the first 3 gears.
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For the Acura TL we have used a lot of the Clutchmasters set ups. The FX250 clutch system has a higher holding capacity than a traditional full faced Kevlar without compromising streetability.
We offer both the rigid and dampened fx250 kits for the 08 TL-S on our website for $600.
Clutch Masters FX250 Clutch Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
We offer both the rigid and dampened fx250 kits for the 08 TL-S on our website for $600.
Clutch Masters FX250 Clutch Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
Last edited by ExcelerateRep; 12-10-2014 at 03:59 PM.
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For anyone interested, we just took receipt of a new clutch kit we'll be releasing. We need to get some feedback on the unit. We will be offering it for the TL-S and the base TL. It will require the purchase of an aftermarket flywheel, which we sell, as it is based around a single mass flywheel.
So if you want to be a part of this project and have us install it at a discounted rate or if you want to install it and provide feedback let me know.
So if you want to be a part of this project and have us install it at a discounted rate or if you want to install it and provide feedback let me know.
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#10
I recommend one of the following:
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec lightweight flywheel
Or
Clutchmasters FX250 clutch
Clutchmasters or AASCO lightweight flywheel (same flywheel so shop for best price)
Along with shifter bushings from Heeltoe, st/st clutch line, Comptech short throw shifter and a knob.
You'll have a nice shift with ~10-20% firmer pedal feel and more power to the ground, primarily in the first 3 gears.
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec lightweight flywheel
Or
Clutchmasters FX250 clutch
Clutchmasters or AASCO lightweight flywheel (same flywheel so shop for best price)
Along with shifter bushings from Heeltoe, st/st clutch line, Comptech short throw shifter and a knob.
You'll have a nice shift with ~10-20% firmer pedal feel and more power to the ground, primarily in the first 3 gears.
For the Acura TL we have used a lot of the Clutchmasters set ups. The FX250 clutch system has a higher holding capacity than a traditional full faced Kevlar without compromising streetability.
We offer both the rigid and dampened fx250 kits for the 08 TL-S on our website for $600.
Clutch Masters FX250 Clutch Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
We offer both the rigid and dampened fx250 kits for the 08 TL-S on our website for $600.
Clutch Masters FX250 Clutch Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
#11
Three Wheelin'
I bought it directly from Spec, off their website as I recall.
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So... there goes my "savings." The AASCO and the Clutch Masters flywheels are different how? My understanding is that AASCO OEM'd the flywheel for CM. I just want to understand the difference in cost besides branding - if there is a difference. Additionally, I want to confirm that it's a single mass, not dual. It says two-piece, but that could just be referring to the friction surface. Lastly, what is the weight of the flywheel (and what is the stock weight, just for giggles)?
Last edited by LogicWavelength; 12-11-2014 at 03:18 PM.
#14
Three Wheelin'
XLR8 has a point. My experience with Spec had some issues. I was lucky and it all worked out in the end. The benefit with Spec is you get a traditional clutch, stronger than the self-adjust design but in all honestly unless you're planning to push lots of torque you'll be fine with either company.
There is no diff between the AASCO and the CM flywheels, at least as of early this year. The CM flywheel is the AASCO unit, plus $200 on avg over AASCO's price. Shop around. And yes it's a single mass and weighs about 14lbs. OEM flywheel is around 28-30lbs.
I strongly recommend replacing the rear main seal while you're in there.
Here's a good read for you:
https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...ch-kit-904261/
There is no diff between the AASCO and the CM flywheels, at least as of early this year. The CM flywheel is the AASCO unit, plus $200 on avg over AASCO's price. Shop around. And yes it's a single mass and weighs about 14lbs. OEM flywheel is around 28-30lbs.
I strongly recommend replacing the rear main seal while you're in there.
Here's a good read for you:
https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...ch-kit-904261/
Last edited by FamilyGuy; 12-12-2014 at 09:09 AM.
#15
Rear main seal? Got a pic or part number? Is this something I should buy from the parts department?
I won't be installing this clutch/flywheel myself - I am done with hardcore internal stuff. If I can't do it with jackstands and in less than 8 hours by myself, I'm not doing it. I already had a soul-sucking project car in my younger days. Ain't nobody got time for that.
I won't be installing this clutch/flywheel myself - I am done with hardcore internal stuff. If I can't do it with jackstands and in less than 8 hours by myself, I'm not doing it. I already had a soul-sucking project car in my younger days. Ain't nobody got time for that.
#16
Three Wheelin'
For my car, I think it's P/N 91214-RCA-A01 OIL SEAL (80X98X8) (NOK)
You can get it here (item 21):
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no
You can get it here (item 21):
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no
Last edited by FamilyGuy; 12-13-2014 at 12:22 AM.
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Is there a particular clutch for our cars that is better/higher recommended than another? Do any reputable vendors carry them?
I have a 2008 Type S (manual trans, obviously). I dug around a bit and see that Clutch Masters makes a few, but for a general street setup I wanted to see what you guys recommend.
My other question (for now) is regarding the 3rd/4th gears. I had the service bulletin done where there is something wrong with the synchros so it is hard to engage the gears... but it's happening again. I remember several years ago when this first happened, that someone recommended putting in Chevrolet Corvette ATF in the gearbox, and the different fluid would help minimze the symptoms. Does anyone have any advice for me? It's really annoying mis-shifting third gear sometimes.
I have a 2008 Type S (manual trans, obviously). I dug around a bit and see that Clutch Masters makes a few, but for a general street setup I wanted to see what you guys recommend.
My other question (for now) is regarding the 3rd/4th gears. I had the service bulletin done where there is something wrong with the synchros so it is hard to engage the gears... but it's happening again. I remember several years ago when this first happened, that someone recommended putting in Chevrolet Corvette ATF in the gearbox, and the different fluid would help minimze the symptoms. Does anyone have any advice for me? It's really annoying mis-shifting third gear sometimes.
#18
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So... there goes my "savings." The AASCO and the Clutch Masters flywheels are different how? My understanding is that AASCO OEM'd the flywheel for CM. I just want to understand the difference in cost besides branding - if there is a difference. Additionally, I want to confirm that it's a single mass, not dual. It says two-piece, but that could just be referring to the friction surface. Lastly, what is the weight of the flywheel (and what is the stock weight, just for giggles)?
It is a single mass flywheel, not a dual mass.
I'd have to measure each one. I can get the AASCO weight since I have one here.
XLR8 has a point. My experience with Spec had some issues. I was lucky and it all worked out in the end. The benefit with Spec is you get a traditional clutch, stronger than the self-adjust design but in all honestly unless you're planning to push lots of torque you'll be fine with either company.
There is no diff between the AASCO and the CM flywheels, at least as of early this year. The CM flywheel is the AASCO unit, plus $200 on avg over AASCO's price. Shop around. And yes it's a single mass and weighs about 14lbs. OEM flywheel is around 28-30lbs.
I strongly recommend replacing the rear main seal while you're in there.
Here's a good read for you:
https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...ch-kit-904261/
There is no diff between the AASCO and the CM flywheels, at least as of early this year. The CM flywheel is the AASCO unit, plus $200 on avg over AASCO's price. Shop around. And yes it's a single mass and weighs about 14lbs. OEM flywheel is around 28-30lbs.
I strongly recommend replacing the rear main seal while you're in there.
Here's a good read for you:
https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...ch-kit-904261/
Hopefully, going forward, with the clutch we've designed, no one will have to go with SPEC as their clutches tend to be spray painted stock units. And their customer service tends to be atrocious. We just need a test fitter to bring the car to us or for someone to volunteer and give me feedback on a unit we have here.
#19
Three Wheelin'
What are the differences / benefits of your setup vs CM and Spec? Clutch only or you also doing a FW?
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