LogicWavelength

Is there a particular clutch for our cars that is better/higher recommended than another? Do any reputable vendors carry them?

I have a 2008 Type S (manual trans, obviously). I dug around a bit and see that Clutch Masters makes a few, but for a general street setup I wanted to see what you guys recommend.

My other question (for now) is regarding the 3rd/4th gears. I had the service bulletin done where there is something wrong with the synchros so it is hard to engage the gears... but it's happening again. I remember several years ago when this first happened, that someone recommended putting in Chevrolet Corvette ATF in the gearbox, and the different fluid would help minimze the symptoms. Does anyone have any advice for me? It's really annoying mis-shifting third gear sometimes.

LogicWavelength

It won't let me edit my post for some reason, but I would be considering the Clutch Masters FX250 and if recommended, the AASCO flywheel.

thisaznboi88

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this guy has a aggressive clutch

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justnspace

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please dont put ATF in your Manual Transmission.

Please use MTF GM syncromesh modified friction

NvrDwn

ftw

LogicWavelength

I don't want an aggressive clutch... I am not going to add more than bolt-on intake/J-pipe/exhaust. I just wanted a possibly better-feeling-than-stock pedal and a lighter flywheel for the faster revs.

That's probably what it was and I just remembered incorrectly. Thank you so much for that, because using ATF would be horrible now that I think about it, haha!

FamilyGuy

I recommend one of the following:

Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec lightweight flywheel

Or

Clutchmasters FX250 clutch
Clutchmasters or AASCO lightweight flywheel (same flywheel so shop for best price)

Along with shifter bushings from Heeltoe, st/st clutch line, Comptech short throw shifter and a knob.

You'll have a nice shift with ~10-20% firmer pedal feel and more power to the ground, primarily in the first 3 gears.

ExcelerateRep

For the Acura TL we have used a lot of the Clutchmasters set ups. The FX250 clutch system has a higher holding capacity than a traditional full faced Kevlar without compromising streetability.

We offer both the rigid and dampened fx250 kits for the 08 TL-S on our website for $600.
Clutch Masters FX250 Clutch Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!

Excelerate

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For anyone interested, we just took receipt of a new clutch kit we'll be releasing. We need to get some feedback on the unit. We will be offering it for the TL-S and the base TL. It will require the purchase of an aftermarket flywheel, which we sell, as it is based around a single mass flywheel.

So if you want to be a part of this project and have us install it at a discounted rate or if you want to install it and provide feedback let me know.

LogicWavelength

I see that you have the Spec. What vendor did you buy it from? I got my brake kit from XLR8 and I love them to death, but I have a budget and want to try and squeeze a flywheel into this deal too, and it seems like the total Spec combination is $200 cheaper than the Clutch Masters/AASCO. I would also do the clutch line, but not the shifter at this time. The throw distance is good enough for now

Thanks! I'll definitely be in touch with you guys again. Hopefully not just for a clutch, but the other giant pile of stuff I want to buy from you, like a V2 J-pipe, cat back, ICS coilovers... the list goes on.

FamilyGuy

I bought it directly from Spec, off their website as I recall.

Excelerate

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We've personally and professionally had nothing but bad experiences with SPEC.

LogicWavelength

So... there goes my "savings." The AASCO and the Clutch Masters flywheels are different how? My understanding is that AASCO OEM'd the flywheel for CM. I just want to understand the difference in cost besides branding - if there is a difference. Additionally, I want to confirm that it's a single mass, not dual. It says two-piece, but that could just be referring to the friction surface. Lastly, what is the weight of the flywheel (and what is the stock weight, just for giggles)?

FamilyGuy

XLR8 has a point. My experience with Spec had some issues. I was lucky and it all worked out in the end. The benefit with Spec is you get a traditional clutch, stronger than the self-adjust design but in all honestly unless you're planning to push lots of torque you'll be fine with either company.

There is no diff between the AASCO and the CM flywheels, at least as of early this year. The CM flywheel is the AASCO unit, plus $200 on avg over AASCO's price. Shop around. And yes it's a single mass and weighs about 14lbs. OEM flywheel is around 28-30lbs.

I strongly recommend replacing the rear main seal while you're in there.

Here's a good read for you:

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...ch-kit-904261/

LogicWavelength

Rear main seal? Got a pic or part number? Is this something I should buy from the parts department?

I won't be installing this clutch/flywheel myself - I am done with hardcore internal stuff. If I can't do it with jackstands and in less than 8 hours by myself, I'm not doing it. I already had a soul-sucking project car in my younger days. Ain't nobody got time for that.

FamilyGuy

For my car, I think it's P/N 91214-RCA-A01 OIL SEAL (80X98X8) (NOK)




You can get it here (item 21):

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

MrHeeltoe

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We definitely are behind the CM/AASCO combo. After many years of work these parts I feel are the best-developed ones out there. I guess that depends a bit on XLR8's option, and how it is made.

Excelerate

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I believe CM purchases AASCO flywheels although AASCO won't confirm that for you directly. If there's a CM/AASCO price difference contact us and we'll verify pricing for you and match it up.

It is a single mass flywheel, not a dual mass.

I'd have to measure each one. I can get the AASCO weight since I have one here.

Thanks for the info.

Hopefully, going forward, with the clutch we've designed, no one will have to go with SPEC as their clutches tend to be spray painted stock units. And their customer service tends to be atrocious. We just need a test fitter to bring the car to us or for someone to volunteer and give me feedback on a unit we have here.

FamilyGuy

Create a thread looking for a volunteer in your local area chapter (regional forums)?

What are the differences / benefits of your setup vs CM and Spec? Clutch only or you also doing a FW?