Brennan8

is it possible to put a eaton m90 blower on the 3g tl type s i know it has been done on the 2g but i havent been able to find anything about the 3g.im not trying to blow up threads im just very interested in this.thanks

AccordFlex

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Why did you start two threads about the M90... Give it some damn time and someone with some knowledge on the subject will chime in. Have some patience.

EvilVirus

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^ Its becuase he stated on a previous post, "I dont have time for all that."

Anyway, from the little research I have done, you will have to get the snout redone to be custom fitted onto our j engine, but thats all I know for now. I pretty sure someone with better knowledge can give you a better insight and correct me if I am wrong too.

handsom-hustla

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my friend, please do a lot more research before you post.

you can get anything to work as long as you have the money and knowledge to do so. we have moved forward with FI working on both base and type s models with the advancements in tuning options.if it works on a base it will work on the type s. if you want to go turbo, sc, make AT stronger or any of your other threads, if you dont have literally a couple for thousands dont bother pursuing the build or telling people you dont have time to search or figure it out. GL

FCVadi

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ACKTL had an M90 blower on his car.. it will be all custom work.. there is a guy from the V6 performance site who does all the custom work.. there are also a few ninja TLs and accrods running his m90 setup

NBPacuraTL

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http://www.v6Xperformance.net/forums/7g-honda-accord-performance-discussion/179175-adapting-eaton-m90-sc.html

remove the X for the correct URL

thisaznboi88

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get ready to drop 5k+

KidoPham

I have an m90.

Slpr04UA6

^and, how much do you Love it?

I can imagine the whine is Incredible!

yungone501

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From what I can recall, there is a big issue with IATs when running higher boost numbers. Also, these engines run high compression so an effective knock controller and meth injection system would be ideal.

Marcelechka

Bingo!

KidoPham

It's not in the car yet. I got acktl's setup with the liquid air cooler also. Everything should be done by the end of the month. My car still at the shop getting a new engine swapped in.

pohljm

New engine swap? Whats up with that?

yungone501

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What's up is he's boosted and bought an engine with a forged bottom end.

Btw, how many miles were on his engine when his car was totaled? I know the rods in that engine are virtually indestructible.

AccordFlex

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sweet deal man. Gotta love seeing another boosted J series

I hate cars

Everything is destructible if there's knock. Forged pistons, forged rods will still fail if there's knock, it will just take a little longer. I don't get why the vast majority of this community are still in the dark ages when it comes to knock control. We have TLs with AFR gauges being common but the main reason for those gauges is to make sure you have a safe AFR to avoid knock but it doesn't show knock. If you can only get one gauge, get a knock gauge, it's the single most important thing to monitor when boosted.

There's no reason to go forged up to the 400whp level if there is no knock and if you do 1/4 style runs (0-120mph) and not extended top speed runs. I believe the stock pistons will soften too much under extended boost but will hold up for 10-15 seconds with a cool down in between.

With that out of the way, the M90 is a great choice, IMO it's what the TL kit should have come with. It's actually safer for the engine. Even though you will be making more hp for each PSI of boost, the charge air temps will be cooler at the same boost level. Temps will still be drastically higher than a turbo's output, if any setup needed an intercooler it's a roots supercharger. This is part of the reason methanol injection is so important with one of these blowers. You get almost as much cooling effect as an intercooler along with the octane and additional fuel that will be required with the more dense air.

Hi speed

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Are you talking about Liberts engine?

yungone501

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Yeah....well, I thought I was. Didn't he sell it to somebody?

***nevermind. He sold it to you!***

KidoPham

Lol I wish I would of known about that motor. I just saw that post a couple days ago. Not sure if he ll ship it all the way over here but it looked like the asking price Isnt too much more than what I paid for my new engine. What happened was I got the supercharger and everything and before I could even have it installed my all stock engine died on the way home from work. I had a local shop get me a used j35a8 from a wrecked TLS with 34k miles. They're working on it right now and hopefully after they're done with the engine work, they'll get started on the supercharger.

yungone501

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I assume you also have FlashPro too...or plan on having.

The j35a8 has a 'higher than most' compression ratio. Be cautious on the knock sensitivity table as Hondata brought all areas down so that it (knock retard) doesn't interfere with tuning. It took me a while to realize this as I kept having knock counts here and there and assuming they were set at factory sensitivity levels, didn't initially tune for this factor and ultimately was affecting power as well as potential engine damage.

Not sure how your engine failed or "died" but the j35a8 is a very strong engine yet is detonation prone...like all j-series. Make certain that you raise the sensitivity levels before adding boost and find out where your knock sensor really is in comparison with the ECM by purposely provoking detonation through fuel or ignition manipulation and then make adjustments accordingly. This way, its calibration will allow you to accurately detect any faint levels of cylinder detonation and help you achieve a long, healthy engine life.

How much boost are you planning on?

KidoPham

^thanks for the info and tips. I'm getting an Ms3 ecu and the car will most likely be tuned at PSI in Portland Oregon. I'll be running 7-8psi most likely.

yungone501

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At that boost range, the j35a8 is reliable all day long with a good tune. It wasn't until 9.5psi did I even begin to see any sort of knock. If you can actually STAY within that range but add meth injection without tuning for the added power benefits of the setup, you'll be surprised at the engines reliability as long as everything else stays in check like your fuel system, ignition, maintenance, etc...