kikazz

and 16 psi only because the engine compression is lowered from 11:1 to 10:1; otherwise it wouldnt even need that much boost

princelybug

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Vids!

Inaccurate

kikazz,

Thank you for the update.

And a BIG congratulations dude !

Modding a car takes a lot of heart ache and cash....... but it is all worth it when the plan comes together like it did for you today.

And Kudos to Rodney for the making this happen.

Rick_TL-S

560 to the wheels. *For stupid people like me, what's the equal to at the crank? Around 6-610HP?

Vids of this monster now, please.

stillhere153

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^ manual... factor in a 12% and change comes in at 630crank

ps. in for a video of turbo spool

TLdream

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congrats kikazz. Enjoy that beast.

Miss Phee

track time!!

I hate cars

Very nice! This is exactly where I thought the j should be at that boost. You're going to surprise the hell out of some unsuspecting exotics. Just make sure you monitor knock, even the forged bottom end has no chance against it.

libert69

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Heres a few vids I made. Rodney and kikazz came by my way. This car is outright insane. Sounds so goddamn good. Idles like stock and sounds stock at idle. Once into boost...WOW. Exhaust is custom greddy setup I believe

Started raining a little bit so the street was getting wet. Wet or not it doesnt matter. Spinning like crazy in the lower gears. His shitty tires arent helping much either.

This isnt even full throttle.

Turn your speakers up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY2uw3ILuFc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmk7GJShaY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6n9-fC9xw4

pohljm

Great sounds of success! Great job! way to push the envelope!

KN_TL

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Congrats Rodney and enjoy kikazz.

Did the knock circuit/control work as planned?

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If I were out looking for fun, that's the kind of sound I would be looking out for. IMO, there's a world of difference in sound between this TL and the rest of the loud and slow TLs. This one sounds like it runs.

greco9885

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wow, that sounds awesome.

Rick_TL-S

I can't imagine doing any runs from a dig would be any good unless there were some radials to help, but I bet that thing is a beast from a 60mph+ pull.

libert69

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yes it did. While trying to tune with 18° of timing, the ecu was picking up knock in 4th gear I believe. They tuned out all the knock with 16° of timing instead.

Im sure Rodney will be on here later. He picked up my car and is in the process of driving down to florida with it

libert69

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another thing kikazz mentioned. He said there is no torque steer because he is using the H&R front and rear sway bars. Makes me really glad that Im upgrading to the type-s bar fsb and moving the progress rsb setting to stiff

pass427

I must first congratulate kikazz for allowing me to build and drive what i must say the most powerful TL TYPE S ive ever driven at 16.83ps1 this car laid down 561 whp and 496lb tq, we monitored the car and yes our knock unit did work with the stock sensor in place ,no need to replace sensor remove manifold we took care of all that ,timing did not even get 19degress , so theres room to tune on race gas and make some power but ill be the first to say enough is enough and 561 is truly enough and a blast to drive this car is what yu call an attention getter ,and an exotic car nitemare , the speedometer moves as if its an rpm clock ,driving this car requires full on attention no looking at a/f no checking booost gauge it cannot happen....

I hate cars

Glad it's really coming together. Now you understand why I use an annoyingly loud knock detector. No time to take your eyes off the road.

pass427

good thing is the ecu has a section for all settings you input it pulls timing to your desired amount but apart from that id like to see kikazz enjoy his ride as its been a long journey and it all came together kikazz wasnt too happy for the post with issues but like i explained with building things do happen people understands and learn from it but with all the issues this ending is definetly rewarding....

Stepien20

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Unbelievable!

0-60 Time please

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You guys did a great job. Usually you have many more problems with this sort of project. To go from start to exceeding the target numbers in under a year is very fast.

You do realize this car has the potential to go deep 11s, right? This is the first TL that will pull a stock and lightly modded GTR. You'll be side by side with high 10 second cars from a roll. This is right about what a new ZR1 dynos. Get the weight down in the 3,200lb range and you should be side by side from a roll.

This kind of power is going to leave you wondering for real if the guy next to you let off the throttle. You will be able to pull a stock EVO harder than a stock TL could pull on one that did not hit the throttle. It should pull as hard at 100mph as a stock TL does from a stand still.

I assume you guys are going to enjoy it as is for a while. I have a feeling within a year this thing is going to break the 600whp mark as you get used to 560hp.

onezfast1

sounds great man congrats!

EATSLEEPRACE

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all i can say is the video sounds like success !!!!!!!!!

lamar2626

only 1 word for this. AMAZING.

TL23s

Insaneeee

AckTL05

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I would love see what this does againt Pauls built engine and mp90. He spins through third. English town??

J Dubya

Exactly my thoughts when I saw the numbers 561 whp & 496 lb tq. 13 yrs ago, my 1995 SVT Cobra Mustang put 385 to the wheels and that was a fun car. I can't imagine 176 more. My God!!!!!

libert69

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Didnt Paul post something like somewhere between 425-450whp for his mp90? Since they both spin the lower gears then a run from a dig is pointless.

If from a roll, hes going to see taillights

A.Liang1992

that thing sounds like a BEAST. hows traction on the car? when i floor my tl from a stop i always slip. cant even imagine how it would be on kikazz's ride

AckTL05

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I haven't seen both cars but he spins through third and he hits max boost asap because of his set up he does. 560 whp is a lot but just strange to me because he doesn't spin third and numbers mean nothing unless it's put down on the ground properly. From a dig maybe pointless but his conservative set up pulled three cars on a z06 which runs 12.2.

I would just love to compare set ups because 25k into a car is seriouse and it should be fast.

I hate cars

Let's just say your thinking is waaaaay off on this subject. The turbo Tl likely gets in to boost sooner. Spinning tires means nothing in regards to power production. I can put 600whp down in a 3000lb car launching at full throttle with no spin. By your reasoning a stock TL should beat me since it will spin. Et means nothing from a roll. You can't say I beat this car so I should beat that car. The turbo Tl makes over 100hp and 100lbs more torque. It would not be a close race. How do you define conservative? The turbo car has 100hp left in it on a race gas tune.

libert69

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Kikazz is boosting hard by 2000rpms and making over 450whp by 4500rpms. S/c is not coming close to that

07tlsWDP

Speechless.

In the second video, the 370z that is passing by is probably thinking I'll turn around and race this family sedan only to know he'll get his ass handed to him.

Amazing. We need more videos by the way.

killersrt

Sounds similar to my SRT-4, traction wise. Oh the joy of high HP FWD cars I could break loose at over 50mph with sticky 245/40/17's. Glad to see there was such a great turnout. I would love to see some in-car vids

AckTL05

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I maybe thinking too hard into it, but it just doesn't make sense to me because in all, we are comparing the same car here with just a different build. I don't mean to be rude but have either of you seen pauls MP90/3.6 build with after market cooler? He puts the max pulley on and messes with the bypass value and retainer spring to make it hit max boost asap right away and have linear solid power throughout the band. Once you hit the gas at any RPM, its pushing max boost all the way through redline.

By conservative I mean the tuner didn't push the car, and its a reliable set up. Also this means that its only pushing 7-8 PSI, this ran around 10k installed and with another 6k paul said this would be a beast with a sleeved block, all out engine and pushing 13-14 psi. I would hope that this TL beats the SC one because for around 30k+ he spent on engine and build thats serious cash flow into a car just on performance.

I love what he did and I am not hating, but in my eyes I want to see what each set up does. This is not a bashing contest, but if I spent 30k I would hope it ran with bugatti's and such. I had my TL since 05 and its come a long way from just having comptech that made after market parts, but now were in the stage of so many things that its nice to compare what one does vs the other.

Yes I under stand this, but numbers don't mean anything. For his car not to hook on a front wheel drive manual or spin third just doesn't make sense at over 600 HP.

On a side note I know this makes A LOT more hp than the S/C build but like I said before, (and not to be rude) if you haven't seen pauls built engine/M90 then we both have no argument against each other. I haven't seen this or raced a turbo TL yet.

I wasn't trying to make an argument or seem rude but it would be nice to see what a built TL vs a built SC does together.

phee

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i believe what IHC was getting at is that traction or loss of traction doesnt mean one car is faster than the other.

they both have different tire setups and actual weights not to mention mounts and dampeners have a lot to do with tire spin.

dont forget alignment either. this car will put a bus on a 400~ car. im sure it makes more power on the street than on the dyno anyway

Hi speed

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What octane gas was used for the dyno run? Are you spraying meth? Can wait to get my numbers up with the new ECU.

I hate cars

Agreed. Turbo cars *usually* pick up a little hp once they're put on the street with more of a load. Depending on the ECU, I would set some cars up a full point rich on the dyno because when they hit the street they would lean out that much from the additional load and power.

m7r7m

I must say over the last two hours I've read through this entire thread and have been EXTREMELY entertained! Glad your build went great kikazz!

Rodney if I had the money to put down for you to do this to my car I can promise you I'd have called you already lol - excellent work I must say.

anx1300c

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You'd expect to run with Bugattis if you dumped 30k into a TL? Damn you've got some unrealistically high hopes.


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