Kikazz Acura TL Type S Jandr Turbo Kit Transformation begins in 3 days 550 whp goal

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Old 04-13-2011, 03:13 PM
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Libert I totally didn't recognize the fact that you live on Long Island! Where at!? I'm in Nassau county in the Roslyn/Mineola area.
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Originally Posted by Yonkers914
If it happens def. make a video (better yet if it takes place in long island where u live ill come out to watch lol" i would love to see that
probably wouldnt be around here. he lives in albany. he says if I want to prove a point then I need to come to him lol

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surprisingly the gtr only puts either 365 or 385 to the wheels, i forget which lol.

what color is it btw? my buddys got one with 517 to the wheels
2009 white

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Libert I totally didn't recognize the fact that you live on Long Island! Where at!? I'm in Nassau county in the Roslyn/Mineola area.
Im in the center of nassau on the south shore

talk about hijacking a thread LMAO
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[quote=libert69;12865885]probably wouldnt be around here. he lives in albany. he says if I want to prove a point then I need to come to him lol

lmao ill take a ride with you.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
Im not really sure why you're bringing BMW into this? I am not here to talk about BMW's, I am obviously here to talk about TL's.
He's trying to say that questions like this are common in BMW forums?

Why is it so important to you why someone does something? We all have our own reasons and we all have our own opinions.

I'm here to find out how.
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I know this is probably off-topic, and I apologize, but hypothetically speaking, how much modification would the 5AT require to push even 500whp at least, somewhat reliably?

Just honest question.
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Originally Posted by libert69
beating a vette or str8 whatever in your typical known high hp car is just another day in the park

putting 5 cars on a vette or srt8 in a boosted TL is like a topless pool party at the playboy mansion. well, not really but you get the point.

i have a highway run lined up when my build is done with a gtr. stay tuned
Hey Libert! i wish you the best of luck with your built and hopefully you come up with something way better than my setup so that this way i will never become complacent and continue pushing Rodney to bring in yet another genius idea towards improving tl
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Originally Posted by greco9885
its possible that it had bigger turbos, and not the vspec or whatever they are called from nissan. because im pretty sure he has that

he has new intake, 110cc injectors, downpipe, dual 340l/h fuel pump, custom intercooler pipes, and runs on e85. also the dyno was done on a low reading mustang dyno. 517whp/523wtq. i think hes running 18psi too

with bigger turbos and similar mods minus e85 could see 600whp
Do you mean 1100cc injectors? There is no way he is making 500 whp with e85 on anything less than a 750

kikazz thanks again for everything. Thanks for your dedication and the persistance to stay focused throughout. Without your contributions, I wouldt be where im at today. Hopefully the gears are going to come sooner than later, and i will see some 10sec passes NA next season.

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Originally Posted by TLdream
Do you mean 1100cc injectors? There is no way he is making 500 whp with e85 on anything less than a 750

kikazz thanks again for everything. Thanks for your dedication and the persistance to stay focused throughout. Without your contributions, I wouldt be where im at today. Hopefully the gears are going to come sooner than later, and i will see some 10sec passes NA next season.
It has been a pleasure my friend; hopefully u will tune in for friday's numbers
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It has been a pleasure my friend; hopefully u will tune in for friday's numbers
I will not only be tuning in, I will have you guys on speed dial!
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
He's trying to say that questions like this are common in BMW forums?

Why is it so important to you why someone does something? We all have our own reasons and we all have our own opinions.

I'm here to find out how.
Is this not what forums are for? I dont see why its a problem that I want to know why he would choose this specific car to do this.

OP post some logs when you complete the build. I am assuming no one has achieved to put down 550whp in a 3g TL yet. How do you plan on preventing detonation? Obviously you have Jandr standalone which will allow you to advance and retard timing and adjust AFR as needed. But obviously you dont want to have to retard timing too much. Do you have any plans on adding a water/meth injection kit?
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
Is this not what forums are for? I dont see why its a problem that I want to know why he would choose this specific car to do this.

OP post some logs when you complete the build. I am assuming no one has achieved to put down 550whp in a 3g TL yet. How do you plan on preventing detonation? Obviously you have Jandr standalone which will allow you to advance and retard timing and adjust AFR as needed. But obviously you dont want to have to retard timing too much. Do you have any plans on adding a water/meth injection kit?
Lower compression (I would have gone a full point lower than the OP) and most of the turbo guys have meth injection. Even with safeguards in place I really hope they monitor knock this time around. I can't tell you how many times having an annoying, almost scary loud knock detector has saved my engine even when everything seemed to be working as it should. This is one area the Honda crowd is decades behind on but I think they're coming around.
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I'm pretty sure Rodney is working on a knock monitor that works with the new ECU.
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
I'm pretty sure Rodney is working on a knock monitor that works with the new ECU.
That's great news. I want to see one of these things live a long trouble free life at 500whp. I know the engine can be reliable at that level.
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Originally Posted by TLdream
Do you mean 1100cc injectors? There is no way he is making 500 whp with e85 on anything less than a 750
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Lower compression (I would have gone a full point lower than the OP) and most of the turbo guys have meth injection. Even with safeguards in place I really hope they monitor knock this time around. I can't tell you how many times having an annoying, almost scary loud knock detector has saved my engine even when everything seemed to be working as it should. This is one area the Honda crowd is decades behind on but I think they're coming around.
Yeah 10:1 is pretty high, but what psi is he going to be running? This should be cool in the end.
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
I'm pretty sure Rodney is working on a knock monitor that works with the new ECU.
He is for sure. MS has the ability to do something similar to the J&S unit and will use the stock sensor with an unknown amp/filter in between.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
Yeah 10:1 is pretty high, but what psi is he going to be running? This should be cool in the end.
My guess is that he'll need to be in the 15-17 p.s.i. range to hit his targeted power levels. Depends on what sort of work was done to the heads.
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Originally Posted by bmeyer
My guess is that he'll need to be in the 15-17 p.s.i. range to hit his targeted power levels. Depends on what sort of work was done to the heads.
That sounds about right. The main difference now is that it will probably require methanol injection which is fine but go a point lower and you could run those boost levels on 91 with less than 2% lost power from the lower compression. It will be a little stronger off boost, possibly a little more responsive but ultimate power on pump gas will be compromised. It's personal preference and race gas is always available to push the envelope but my preference is to run 19psi on pump gas and use methanol and 25+psi when you have a tough race.
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Originally Posted by bmeyer
My guess is that he'll need to be in the 15-17 p.s.i. range to hit his targeted power levels. Depends on what sort of work was done to the heads.
Looking at your sig, are you planning on running straight meth or e85?
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For the time being I'll be running straight meth. I'm reluctant to go with e85 because of its limited availability where I'm at and I don't want that to prevent/hinder me in anyway from taking it on a road trip. For me, it's a luxury car first and a 'vette killer second.
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^^^ I should clarify a little on that... The AEM kit that I have now will not support anything over a 50/50 mix of meth, so I'm currently looking at switching over to a Snow or Alky injection system in order to be able to handle the higher levels of meth.
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Originally Posted by bmeyer
^^^ I should clarify a little on that... The AEM kit that I have now will not support anything over a 50/50 mix of meth, so I'm currently looking at switching over to a Snow or Alky injection system in order to be able to handle the higher levels of meth.


The AEM kit can be used with straight meth since it has the EDPM seals but the explosive nature of meth makes them recommend the 50/50 mix. I think Alky's kit has a better pump, lines and fittings, but the seals are made of the same material as the aem kit.
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Good to know. Thanks for sharing that.
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I don't know what it is with GTRs(japanese engineering AWD) but they are downright FAST for being ~4000lbs and the power they have and even with AWD their FAST at higher speeds too..

Back on topic, show me 550whp on a mustangDyno and I'll be impressed

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Maybe the one I raced was modded. The car I was in was making almost 100 more hp at the wheels and 500lbs lighter and neither of us could pull on the other past 60MPH.
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Originally Posted by AtlM5
I don't know what it is with GTRs(japanese engineering AWD) but they are downright FAST for being ~4000lbs and the power they have and even with AWD their FAST at higher speeds too..

Back on topic, show me 550whp on a mustangDyno and I'll be impressed
No joke. My buddy has one and we lined up my srt. I had him off the line consistantly but the 2nd and 3rd gear he destroyed me by 3-5 car length.

Hopefully we get video of this tl from a roll because it should be unreal. Something from another cars prospective would be nice to get a feel for the actual speed.
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Originally Posted by bmeyer
^^^ I should clarify a little on that... The AEM kit that I have now will not support anything over a 50/50 mix of meth, so I'm currently looking at switching over to a Snow or Alky injection system in order to be able to handle the higher levels of meth.
Check out coolingmist, their new controller is about to come out. The system autolearns and turns your failsafe on automatically.
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snow is good pure meth also like you said. ive had pure meth in the tank for the past 7 months with no leaks
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snow is good pure meth also like you said. ive had pure meth in the tank for the past 7 months with no leaks
What size nozzle and where is it placed? 100% is very flammable, obviously.
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(2) 175ml/min nozzles that according to snow, pushes closer to 225ml/min per nozzle. I guess b.c their pump pressure is a little higher
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Nice set up, I prefer to keep it as far away from the cylinders as possible though.
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OP, you should email coolingmist or aquamist. They have a great 250psi pump and the M10 nozzle is awesome, it flows around 800 ml/min.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
Nice set up, I prefer to keep it as far away from the cylinders as possible though.
There's a whole other discussion about this. Take about a week and read the turbo thread. It has all of our build stuff in there.
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Today is the big day. Cant wait to see the big numbers.
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lets see these numbers!!!!
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A little past midnight on the east coast and the car is off the dyno. From the quick conversation that i had with Rodney most everything went well, and they achieved some great numbers. I am just posting up to show the dedication Rodney has for his passion. I dont think he will let an obsticle stand in his way. I dont think he ever sleeps.

He will post up tomorrow with the full detials and numbers.
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I am just ecstatic right now; i dont really know how to explain all this; it took about 5 hours to tune the car and the end result: Fucking unbelievable; the car is putting down 560 to the wheels and 500lbs of torque.that is on the dyno but when we took it out on the street it was a completely different story. The car felt even faster than that: Second gear it spun tires just a little bit but third and fourth gear the car just literally took off the ground and by the time i was ready to shift into fifth i was already doing 140 miles per hour. It is breathtakingly fast; there is no turbo lag whatsoever the car picks up boost already at 2100 rpm and there is no tire spin in third and fourth gears at all meaning this clutch puts down everything to the ground all of it all 560 hp.
Rodney is truly a king; true master. Whatever he did with this car simply defies all logic and the rules of gravity. We will try to post the vids as soon as possible
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Originally Posted by kikazz
I am just ecstatic right now; i dont really know how to explain all this; it took about 5 hours to tune the car and the end result: Fucking unbelievable; the car is putting down 560 to the wheels and 500lbs of torque.that is on the dyno but when we took it out on the street it was a completely different story. The car felt even faster than that: Second gear it spun tires just a little bit but third and fourth gear the car just literally took off the ground and by the time i was ready to shift into fifth i was already doing 140 miles per hour. It is breathtakingly fast; there is no turbo lag whatsoever the car picks up boost already at 2100 rpm and there is no tire spin in third and fourth gears at all meaning this clutch puts down everything to the ground all of it all 560 hp.
Rodney is truly a king; true master. Whatever he did with this car simply defies all logic and the rules of gravity. We will try to post the vids as soon as possible
good to hear!!!

i hope you can get a video for us, maybe even alittle 1/4 mile time

how much boost are you running?

edit: a 560whp DD on pump gas is incredible.
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Originally Posted by greco9885
good to hear!!!

i hope you can get a video for us, maybe even alittle 1/4 mile time

how much boost are you running?

edit: a 560whp DD on pump gas is incredible.
we are running 16 psi


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