Our cats actually misfire to warm up faster, so this is the sound you are hearing on a cold start. It goes away within 15 seconds and its not noticeable stock because our exhaust is CARB legal, VERY restrictive and quiet. This noise is normal.

Just touching cats is illegal and most/if not all shops will not even touch the cats unless its OEM. I would think they will pass if you have a HF third cat, but just check on the local laws of the cell counts needed. I just wouldn't tell anyone that you changed them and try to put the stock heat shield back on to cover them up.

I know that in NJ they only check emissions and since our cars are 95 and newer, they hook up the OBDII port and if you don't throw a cell, you will pass. These shouldn't throw a code unless they are installed wrong. Visual inspections/pipe inspections are a thing of the past. All in all, you should be fine.

 

I know the legalities of it and my mechanic will do whatever I want to my car for me so no worries there. I just wanted to make sure about if these will pass smog they should but you never know.

 

You have to drop the subframe to install...that sounds pretty involved!

 

i didn't have to...hope i didn't install it wrong!

 

no sir...you probably did it perfectly, just manuevered?!?! from the above or below, the rear one?!?

 

Yeah you shouldn't have to remove the sub-frame at all. Shark I saw your install pics. Even when I was under my car for the j-pipe install it didn't look like it needed to be removed.

On a side note I just spoke with Richie, and he said the HFC's will be ready by the end of the month and he's gonna fix the site regarding the price for them cause people have been confused lately.

 

the rear one i pulled out from the bottom, top one i pulled out from the top. easy stuff once the heat shields are removed. wiggle n jiggle and cake.

right on, you gonna pull the trigger on a set? pending smog laws?

 

Really thinking about it, but I have a very major personal issue going on that would affect money in a big way. So the spending needs to be stopped for awhile but in the same respect I'm that much closer to finishing the car performance-wise aside from doing the pulley. I already have the cai, j-pipe-exhaust done so what's left besides the cats and a pulley. maybe PnP done but the few that did it aren't saying much for numbers. And right now s/c'ing it is outta budget. Hey also did you ever read my last pm to you cause you never answered back just wondering what you thought about what I said.

 

nice, am looking forward for this.

 

why are you concerned about the smog laws?

ny just plugs into OBD and thats it

 

do what you gotta do man, the car can wait. but yeah, the last thing i have to get is the UR stock pulley...just waiting to find a good deal on one. s/c is tempting...but i don't want to have to retrofit the CT to fit the type-s...maybe a turbo down the line...?...but i don't want to lose everything i've bought already.

to your question, i'll get you an accurate answer on 5/2...getting better testing done 5/1.

 

doesn't the obd2 tell the system it's levels while the car is idling? if so and it shows high nox levels it will fail. I just wanna make sure.

 

turbo is gonna be $$$ since you'll need to get into tuning and that'll be money right there just getting it right where you want the car to be. As for the "?" I'll be patiently waiting lol.

Hey why don't you look the the PnP thread too that may sway you a bit to stay NA. Like I said before depending on the numbers it might be something I do.

 

All you have to do in order to get the S/C kit to fit the TYPE-S would be an external computer (AEM FIC) which is highly recommend/needed in any FI route you take and a new elbow which paul (NVA-AV6) can fab up for around $200. He can also install it for cheap, as he's only about an hour away from you.

A complete S/C kit installed should run around 5k with NO maintenance. A complete Turbo build will run you around 10k-12k with installation/computer/injectors/full 3" exhaust and so on. The S/C should use the 3", but doesn't need it as the TURBO does because the turbo works off of the exhaust.

To be honest everyone loves the turbo over the S/C but its more maintenance and a lot more money. One isn't more reliable than the other, but a s/c won't be pushing boost unless you hit the gas and get out of vacuum which is the case of "hidden power" and less abuse on the motor. Their both great and have their ups and downs, its almost like the thread "difference between TYPE-S and base". That thread basically turned out that the car one owned, was the best and there was no concrete answers to as which one was "better" and they technically are the same car and everyone modifies them to be the same anyway.

They just check for codes. If you install them correct, no code will be thrown and you will be fine. To them if there is no codes, the car is "running perfect".

 

Ack, you find me a good deal on a comptech and i'm all over it. send me a PM with some more details would you?

cuban, i hear what you're saying. i'm just throwing ideas out there, not sure which route i'll end up taking...gotta do more research.

 

nope, because the o2 defoulers the o2 sensors only get a small amount of the exhaust gas and the small amount it gets it thinks its normal.

only with a CEL you will fail NYS joke inspection

 

you don't HAVE to, but if you've got access to the facilities, it appears to make things a whole lot easier.

 

who the hell spent 10k-12k your basic JandR turbo build? dont use me as an example with my build. B.c before the motor build I had the basic kit with a 500$ 3" magnaflow exhaust running great for months, daily driven 50 miles a day. It was only when the boost went up and the tune wasnt right that I had problems. But that holds true for any car making that power with a less then perfect tune.

5799 for the kit plus install if you cant do it yourself and 300-400 for the tune. Where is this other 4k-6k coming from? Computer (fic) and injectors are included. Its the s/c that has no computer and no injectors.

Fic works fine b.c closed loop tuning is possible. Their new ecu is NOT needed. keep your power levels below/around 400 to the wheels and your stock motor will be fine assuming your tune is right. same logic goes for the s/c . you can argue me all day about that amount of power for the stock J is a bad idea but if you had any idea what Rodney and his guys have been doing with a stock j32 you would be suprised

All the piping from the turbo kit is 3". A custom 3'' exhaust from the downpipe back will run you around 500 for parts and labor. Thats cheaper then all the other bolt on pre-made exhausts for the 3g. And a 3" exhaust is not needed either. Theres 2 other members running the typical bolt on exhausts

Running the s/c with the precats is horrible idea anyway. Theres some more money needed. Get precat deletes, might as well get a jpipe too.

we covered the money aspect and your figures are wrong. Why is it more maintenance?

so your saying that the turbo is making boost when the boost gauge still reads vacuum?

so we have a "complete" (whatever that means) s/c kit for 5k. does that include injectors, fic, harness, tune, exhaust, precat deletes, and a complete turbo kit (kit, tune, install) 7k TOPS. I guess its an easy decision for me

 

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PCD's v3 ftw.

 

Anyone install the hi flow Pre cat deletes??

 

+1 for libert. Valid points and proving people wrong

Anyway just got around to getting to the shop and checked out the v3 pcds and they are awesome! Unfortunately I am slammed with work and can't get around to installing it for a few days

 

This Friday if schedule permits.

 

Richie, The HFPC's look great.

I'm looking at a Thursday install... I'll post up some videos as soon as I install

 

Is it Thursday yet?

Really wanna hear how the hi flow sounds...

 

^ +2 for the vids, I am sooooo ready to purchase the HFC.

 

......its Friday.

 

Has Richie even started shipping?

 

Sorry guys but I hit a few bumps and snags on the install. Now I'm looking for a "professional" to do this for me.

 

NP bro as long as you didn't just "disappear" on us...make it happen tho. If you don't I will...Lol. Got a D5000 and tripod on deck just n case i end up being first...

 

Ahhh you bastards already got your HFC's? I guess Im part of the second batch.

 

My HFC's will be on today if it doesn't rain. Would've been done Friday, but the idiots who did my suspension impacted the damn strut brace nuts and I stripped one of them trying to loosen it. After screwing with it for a couple hours I went to Sears and picked up a set of those sockets that dig into a stripped nut. That did the trick.

 

Video or at least a review today

Thank you amigo!

 

any reviews on the HFCs yet? I have decided that I want to get these but would just like to hear from someone else

 

^hold your horses.
I'm sure if some one got them on, there would a review already....

 

I wanna see!


and HEAR!

 

This weekend for sure, guys. I had everything loosened up and/or out this past Sunday (rear cat bolts were easy), but hit a snag on the bolts from the race pipe to catback. I was on my back using ramps and those bolts were rusted pretty badly. I'm taking it somewhere with a lift Saturday to get the bolts changed, then doing the install Sunday.

 

^oh so you pan to do it on your back?

this gives me confidence, as I was going to do it on my back but a friend told me to do it with a lift. I dont want to pay to use a lift....

 

I did my V3 Jpipe on my back...no issues...my jack lifted the car well enough into the aire and I'm blessed with no real rust or crud since I'm in Sofla.

I'm SUPER tempted to jump on this...

 

^did the jpipe on my back as well.
but for the PCD you have to remove the rear from the bottom.
that will be a pain.