intake silencer round 2

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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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intake silencer round 2

removed my intake silencer and put a k+n cone on factory tube and did not see much of a gain per my gtech.went back and put in a k+n drop in and dremmeld the the factory lid flat in side and went from 6.6 0to60 to 6.25
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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why not just get a true CAI?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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any pictures of this modification, sounds interesting.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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u just had a better launch the 2nd time,
do 5-60 mph instead.

and just get a full CAI
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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full cia's are 300 bucks drop in filter 45 and you take the chance of sucking up water.they also are not good to run in the winter time will hurt performance.I have tried them in the past and no matter what popular opinion says you are better with a modified factory box.My car launches the same every time.just shareing my findings if a full cia is what you like knock your selfs out.you will also be surprised how the cia hurts your performance in the winter.Also you can not use a gtech from a roll.

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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Pics please!... I plan on doing the same thing to mine over the weekend and was just curious how you got the factory tubing to tighten around the new cone. THANKS!
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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When I first got the TL I did the drop in K&N with the silencer removed and it was basically a CAI. The opening is in the fender well and takes in the cool are from there. I did a Dyno with that done and then again with the CAI and it was a small difference in power. The only thing I didn't do was get a base line run with it bone stock.
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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What did you dremmel out???
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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did u dremel the inside of the lower box out? I did the same, wasn't a significant difference though...but the stock box sure does feel much torque-y than cai
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I dremeld the upper lid smooth and I opened the bottom under the filter up also.I have also removed the third muffler recently but have not yet had a chance to Gtech but it sounds great.I just used clamps on the tube and got rid of the sping Acura had on there
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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I will say that the airbox provides better throttle response than a CAI (Cold air intake), personally I'd go with an improved airbox rather than a CAI.

A CAI does, however, provide more power at peak rpm and higher speeds.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TL black
full cia's are 300 bucks drop in filter 45 and you take the chance of sucking up water.they also are not good to run in the winter time will hurt performance.I have tried them in the past and no matter what popular opinion says you are better with a modified factory box.My car launches the same every time.just shareing my findings if a full cia is what you like knock your selfs out.you will also be surprised how the cia hurts your performance in the winter.Also you can not use a gtech from a roll.
i could never understand this CAI sucks water....u flooring it through a river? im low to where u cant even fit ur fist under the car...and i have yet to get a drop of water in the intake....so i have yet to have an understanding of that... .2nd,while the car already has cold air induction..and a better flowing filter will give you a better response...if ur familiar with the way the air travels through the plastic tubing from the front driver's side lower grille...up into a box, to ur filter box and TB, its like a roller coaster...

CAI isn't all about "the cold air" , its the way the air travels up the air induction system...the velocity it gains from being sucked through the unique shapes and bends.... think about when upen up the air filter box and drive with it open, or simply what you did, but replacing the filter with a higher flow filter...ur motor is breathing easier...same thing happens with an open box...the vaccum created by the motor doesnt have to work extra hard to suck up the air, and its more efficient when the air path is freed up.... thats the difference between a true CAI and the cars STOCK cold air induction system which has a long path full of bends and all kinds of weird shapes till it crashes into the air box losing its flow pattern all over again, and finally making its way through the last piece of wrinkled plastic (i think thats there to create air waves lol) pipe into the TB.

to make it all simple... ur motor loves smooth exhaust piping, leaving the motor...it would appreciate the same thing with the induction system
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TL black
full cia's are 300 bucks drop in filter 45 and you take the chance of sucking up water.they also are not good to run in the winter time will hurt performance.I have tried them in the past and no matter what popular opinion says you are better with a modified factory box.My car launches the same every time.just shareing my findings if a full cia is what you like knock your selfs out.you will also be surprised how the cia hurts your performance in the winter.Also you can not use a gtech from a roll.
youre kidding right?!

lmfao
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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i forgot to mention.... i dont base anything on popular opinions...just experience and tech.... believe me, if a CAI hurts my performance during the winter, i wouldn't run it.... if uve experienced anything at all, it would have to be built up moisture in ur CAI filter that would limit the flow of air until it dries up, and another thing is...CAI filter needs to be cleaned/washed or changed more often than a stock air box filter.. CAI filter its exposed to a lot more than a stock airbox filter...all kinds of debris, dust, moisture...that still doesnt make the stock Induction system better. there's downfalls on both if u really wanna compare them...but id rather take a downfall on something that's superior under normal situations.

There's no gain without sacrifices!
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