BukvaMan

did anyone ever bought one since it was announce ? is it official ??

or should i just go with the progress one >?

A SiQ TL

That's right, I had forgotten all about the H&R one. Has anybody tried it?

s0leheir

I see the have a front sway too I wonder how that would work out.

desper

would def check out the front sway bar, would like to know if anyone has tried it

leedogg

Damn, that FSB is 28mm's...even thicker than my progress rsb.

A SiQ TL

I thought the front ones were a bitch to install. So much so that it wouldn't be worth it.

JCL622

you guys need to read the other posts ~ this has come up already once ~ i can't remember when, but it was pretty recent, and basically the break down was that for a FWD to get a FSB is really bad. Not to mention if you guys stick around long enough you get the feeling that the general attitude is that H&R can go to hell with acura products.

this is all out of mere observation ~ i personally never liked H&R from bad experiences with my friend's ride, but basically, a FSB is useless and will actually make handling worse.

RSB ftw ~ i'm looking to buy one - anyone got any offers?

jdmspec333

based on driving experience, the average joe should not put a beefy sway bar in front on a fwd car. rear sway bar yes. the car handles better and more predicatiblity with the slight nose dive. if you don't like the way the front reacts, get some teins. a beefy sway bar in the rear however will correct the notorious understeer the boat of a tl has. progress all the way. they make good shit. progress also has a civic that races the salt flats. that must show for something.

KenUA6

So the MT TL have more understeering than the AT than ?? cause the MT's FSB is 27.2mm and the AT is 25.2mm F or the AT guy should upgrade their's FSB to the MT size ?? I test drove a AT TL-S b4 and the car seem like more response on the front, and I'm locating a MT FSB from the junk yard maybe I will let you guy know after I install it.

I have a 04 5AT btw

KenUA6

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no


Check # 2 is only 50ish buck I think is a pretty good upgrade

NetEditor

Well, the average joe shouldn't install a rear sway bar either, as it induces oversteer much easier. In fact, if we're speaking about the average joe, sways bars are the last thing you should ever modify in your suspension setup.

A simple way to get more out of your sway bar is to use polyurethane bushings. Switching from the squishy rubber ones to polyurethane is equivalent to increasing sway bar diameter about 10 to 15 percent. However, I don't know whether companies such as Energy Suspension make these bushings for the TL yet.

Now, increasing the diameter of your front sway bar will induce understeer. You have to remember that the sway bar essentially connects the suspension from side to side. So when you're in a turn, the inside tire will have a tendency to pick up off the ground.

This isn't to say that a front sway bar is bad, but bigger is not always better. At a certain point, getting a thicker bar will make your handling worse. But in a front/front car like ours, I wouldn't get a thicker front sway bar, but rather a thicker rear sway bar. Front/front cars have horrendous understeer. Getting a thicker rear bar will allow the rear end to come out easier, allowing for more neutral handling.

Kennedy

iTrader: (2)

This topic comes up once a month... Search this forum and you'll find some good educational reading and LOTS of opinions on upgrading the front swaybar.

The H&R bar is still vaporware...

If you you REALLY want to upgrade for shit s and giggles, and recognize that you have to lower the front subframe to insatll it (WORK)... consider upfgrading to the 2007 TL-S FSB

AT - 25.2mm hollow
MT - 27.2mm hollow
2007 TL-S 6MT 27.2 SOLID - that's significant.

and use good energy suspension poly bushings.

KenUA6

Just did a little search I think energy suspension only have 27mm bushing

Kennedy

iTrader: (2)

Right... 27.2 = 27mm

They also have a 25mm bushing for you Auto guys, but if you're gonna go through the trouble, might as well upgrade the bar too to at least that of the MT.

Have you ever measured .2mm? .2mm only matters in precise machining. I've seen folks on this forum squeeze a 24mm swaybar into a 22mm poly bushing.

The PN you need is ENS - 9.5162 - non- greasable. The greasable links are preffered, but they won't fit in the front...

and again, you have to drop the sub frame to get to the mounting point of the front bushings.

KenUA6

Thanks kennedy
I just bought the front sway bar(MT) with stock bushing maybe going to do the poly bushing later.

I will let you guy know when the FSB is in.

av6t

iTrader: (1)

hi all,

I just installed the progress rsb in my 05 AT. had comptech before feel way different (back end stay flat lot more in turn), now just picked up the MT FSB from the dealer and bushing. and brackets.

Can someone post the instruction of how to change the FSB?

av6t

iTrader: (1)

oh by the way Called H&R and their FSB is still in R&D. be a while before it will come out, no ECD

Kennedy

iTrader: (2)

To be honesst... I don't think it's been done before. What we need is someone with a Helms/Service manual to post up some scans.

KenUA6

If you could wait for a week, cause I will do my FSB next weekend and I will take picture when I do the installation.

JD TL-S

iTrader: (1)

In the Acura book I have it shows both manual and auto 07 TL-S having a solid 27.0mm front bar. And the back is 20.0mm

Kennedy

iTrader: (2)

That's rigth JD... I never checked the Auto TL-S, but they do have the same PN.